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The models are among the best I have seen (Don't agree with certain Aesthetic choices, but I can't argue with detail) and I have ordered some of PanOceana's models to try to better my painting skills.

So I figure what is Infinity? More lorewise than anything, as I know that it's cover based with lots of special rules.

It's kind of like Ghost in the Shell: The tabletop game, as far as atmosphere goes.

There are a bunch of human factions kept under control by an AI named Aleph. No one's directly at war with one another, but skirmishes do arise. There's also Aliens that are out to do bad things to humanity.

Oh really?


Everything is controlled via A.I.? What is this A.I. like?

Well, there's the O12, which is kind of like the UN, but with more power that keeps the peace between the factions most of the time. Aleph, the AI that runs the show, has a hand in this. It's not an oppressive AI ruler, so much as a benevolent force that assists in the governance of the world and makes sure that minor altercations don't end up evolving into all out war.

At least, that's from what I've gathered so far. I haven't gotten a chance to read all the fluff yet.

Fafnir wrote:Well, there's the O12, which is kind of like the UN, but with more power that keeps the peace between the factions most of the time. Aleph, the AI that runs the show, has a hand in this. It's not an oppressive AI ruler, so much as a benevolent force that assists in the governance of the world and makes sure that minor altercations don't end up evolving into all out war.

At least, that's from what I've gathered so far. I haven't gotten a chance to read all the fluff yet.

So it's definately not "I have no mouth, but must Scream!" level, then? Fair enough.

You've got that bit right.

PanO is the "richest" of the human factions, and the most high-tech (they have the largest numbers of TAG units and personnel with cubes - which allow the host consciousness to be implanted into a new body after "death".

Nomads are the disenfranchised and rebellious space gypsies. Illegal body modifications, secure banking and mercenary markets. They also resent Aleph (they see it more as an overlord than as mankind's servant, and they see PanO as its dupe).

I pretty much describe it as "Ghost in the shell" the game. Small unit skirmish actions (usually 10 models per side, although some factions can field more because of cheaper troops).
Close combat DOES play a part, but it's a small part, and you get to take actions during the other player's turn, so no-one gets bored.

chromedog wrote:You've got that bit right.

PanO is the "richest" of the human factions, and the most high-tech (they have the largest numbers of TAG units and personnel with cubes - which allow the host consciousness to be implanted into a new body after "death".

Doesn't Haqislam have the most cubes? Since they're the ones that actually make the drug that lets you use them.

With all due respect to the OP, there are so many threads on here about "What is Infinity", did this question really need another thread? Add to that, Infinity has a website, with all the answers you need......at one point, people were falling over themselves to promote Infinity, and make sure it was easy for new players to get the "what what" on the game....but now, Infinity is a firmly established game that doesn't really need it's player base to pander to people who can't be bothered to search.

Sorry, if I come across as a dick, and I really don't want to put you off from trying out this wonderful game......but it's a bit like me going onto the main forum and asking..."WH40K, so what's it all about?"

Sorry but i have to agree with Delphont...

http://www.infinitythegame.com/forum/
http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/facciones/
http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/access/
http://infinitythegame.wikispot.org/Home

And their are two rulebooks with fluff in them: Infinity and Infinity: Human Sphere.

There is no way we could describe a whole games worth of fluff, as Delephont said, it's like having to describe 40k. Not as a large i grant you but still very complex.
I'd suggest using those links and buying the rulebooks if you have the cash. Just like you would if you were starting 40k for the first time. I hope you find the links useful.

I'm going to disagree with Delephont and LostSoulCasey'sLaw, mainly because there isn't a place on the official site that gives an overview of the factions and background.

The miniatures page gives a single paragraph about each faction and then background for individual units. The Access Guide links at the bottom of most of the pages are dead links.

If you like videos then the official YouTube channel gives a decent overview, otherwise I wrote an background introduction article myself because it doesn't exist anywhere else...

http://wargamingtrader.com/infinity/intro1

IJW wrote:I'm going to disagree with Delephont and LostSoulCasey'sLaw, mainly because there isn't a place on the official site that gives an overview of the factions and background.

The miniatures page gives a single paragraph about each faction and then background for individual units. The Access Guide links at the bottom of most of the pages are dead links.

If you like videos then the official YouTube channel gives a decent overview, otherwise I wrote an background introduction article myself because it doesn't exist anywhere else...

http://wargamingtrader.com/infinity/intro1

What you say is true, and I want to reiterate, I don't want to come across as a dick, but my main point was, there are a number of threads now where people have asked this question, and people like Bobbafett and BlueDagger have gone out of their way to present the game, and basically "spoon feed" people the answers to all of thier questions. I guess a quick search by the OP would have solved their problems very quickly!!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/355938.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/401092.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391697.page

Well i'm not disagreeing with IJW either to be honest. With Delephont i was agreeing as to the difficulty of summing up a lore overview in one post.
I agree that the Infinity website is extremely lacking but it's a enough for a new guy to get a feel for it. At which point i would recommend that you get the rulebooks.
I have to admit i forgot about that page you made IJW. The thing is i wouldn't expect anyone to write that out in a thread for me, not even on the official forums, especially when i don't appear to have done any research myself. Then again your much nicer than normal people IJW!
In fact Slarg the best advice is to check out all of IJW's resources. He has done a lot to help new players. Once you've got what you can from them you should buy the rulebooks.


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It appears that we all agree about the core of the issue.

I'll second getting the rulebook. The setting is fairly complex and the best way to get to know it is reading about the different factions and societies in the rulebook. And it's full color.

True, there are quite a few existing threads.

Fafnir wrote:Well, there's the O12, which is kind of like the UN, but with more power that keeps the peace between the factions most of the time. Aleph, the AI that runs the show, has a hand in this. It's not an oppressive AI ruler, so much as a benevolent force that assists in the governance of the world and makes sure that minor altercations don't end up evolving into all out war.

At least, that's from what I've gathered so far. I haven't gotten a chance to read all the fluff yet.

In fact, I remember from the books that... if there is a BIG stuation somewhere, in some planet , O-12 can stop all the "space-traffic" and be the only army allowed to move their ships there. That's power.

In that O-12 control the Circulars* and therefore interstellar traffic, yes.

*For people who haven't absorbed all the background material, the Circulars are vast (no, bigger than that!) ships that loop between all the colonies via fixed wormhole shortcuts.

IJW wrote:In that O-12 control the Circulars* and therefore interstellar traffic, yes.

*For people who haven't absorbed all the background material, the Circulars are vast (no, bigger than that!) ships that loop between all the colonies via fixed wormhole shortcuts.

They are ships that carry smaller ships, and even an entire Nomad fleet like Bakunin can travel using a circular.

Kinda reminds me of the Guild's Heighliners from Dune!

I made a new thread for several reasons, actually; one of which I was only asking for fluff based knowledge, and didn't want to wade through "Oh, it's got lots of cover!" twenty thousand times, another of which, as has been said, the main site is lacking, and I don't want to know how to play it, I'm just trying to figure out what makes my dudes tick a little bit.

I'm just trying to get better at painting, and Infinity has some pretty sweet models. I just would like to get inside their heads a little bit for when I start painting them.

Well the Infinity forum dose have nicer posters.

Noir wrote:Well the Infinity forum dose have nicer posters.

, well I guess the only good thing about this particular post, is that it may encourage the OP to visit the Infinity website.....

Fafnir wrote:Well, there's the O12, which is kind of like the UN, but with more power that keeps the peace between the factions most of the time. Aleph, the AI that runs the show, has a hand in this. It's not an oppressive AI ruler, so much as a benevolent force that assists in the governance of the world and makes sure that minor altercations don't end up evolving into all out war.

At least, that's from what I've gathered so far. I haven't gotten a chance to read all the fluff yet.

Or so IT wants you to belive,.........................sorry nomad player

Delephont wrote:

Noir wrote:Well the Infinity forum dose have nicer posters.

, well I guess the only good thing about this particular post, is that it may encourage the OP to visit the Infinity website.....

Son, I've been on this website since before your account was a twinkling in your computer's eye.

Slarg232 wrote:

Son, I've been on this website since before your account was a twinkling in your computer's eye.

Sorry, what? Which website? Dakka? Your account says you joined in 2010?!?.....more posts, doesn't mean longer duration....it just means you post alot.

Now that's out of the way, I have to ask what prompted you to even make that statement? Have you confused something I've posted as an insult? I'd truely like to know

Delephont wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

Son, I've been on this website since before your account was a twinkling in your computer's eye.

Sorry, what? Which website? Dakka? Your account says you joined in 2010?!?.....more posts, doesn't mean longer duration....it just means you post alot.

Now that's out of the way, I have to ask what prompted you to even make that statement? Have you confused something I've posted as an insult? I'd truely like to know

Oh beleive me man, If I ever use the word "Son", it's not an insult

Wasn't even looking at dates, to tell the truth.

This thread has taken an unusual turn...

A slice of 'on topic' anyone? You should definitely buy the rulebooks, if you just need info on one or two guys go to the website and the miniatures gallery and click on the model, there is information down the side of the image.

Slarg232 wrote:

Delephont wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

Son, I've been on this website since before your account was a twinkling in your computer's eye.

Sorry, what? Which website? Dakka? Your account says you joined in 2010?!?.....more posts, doesn't mean longer duration....it just means you post alot.

Now that's out of the way, I have to ask what prompted you to even make that statement? Have you confused something I've posted as an insult? I'd truely like to know

Oh beleive me man, If I ever use the word "Son", it's not an insult

Wasn't even looking at dates, to tell the truth.

Now that wasn't a very smart thing to do, was it?

Seriously, there's a lot of interesting threads on the topic that you've posted, so a quick look around would have been helpful, and then you could have posted a more specific series of questions.

We have a couple of regulars here who are excellent when it comes to 'helping out' with Infinity matters.

This thread is starting to get a bit 'testy'.

It might be time to file it under "lesson learned' and move on to friendlier things...

The miniatures are probably among the best I have seen, if not the best. The detail in mind blowing. Only thing I can really point out that is a negative, some of the minis that are big and bulking are still made in Metal and not plastic/resin.

The game get a fair amount of play at on of several game shops in my area. The complexity is probably what prevents it from getting more plays. Malifaux is king right now for the skirmish games. 7 days a week there is a tournament or 2 or even 3.


Infinity does have a steep learning curve but the rules do make for the "ultimate tactical game"

How you build your force and your tactics is what is going to win you games. Not lucky dice rolls. Well, more so than most games anyway. With the whole "it's always your turn" is both fun and frustrating.

Nothing more annoying than having your best character pinned down by a sniper and the rest of your team is on the other side unable to help.

But also fun when you have a few guys of your own who have LoS through a few windows that can light up a enemy character trying to run after the objective.

Defiantly more involved with Infinity, if you have a short attention span you will get your ass kicked.

Infinity is a game that presents both sweet and sour flavors with sexy minis.

Anyone notice that just about all the women in Infinity have a perfect ass? The future is bright.

Piston Honda wrote: Anyone notice that just about all the women in Infinity have a perfect ass? The future is bright.

It's not bright, the sun doesn't shine on it



So here is a question; How many "Cutters", or rather big mechanical suits, would a standard PanO squad have? I rather like the look of the Cutter, not so much the other one.

And in order to cut off another question, how many Spider bot things would one have?

Not many. The more big expensive models you have, the fewer Orders you have to be able to do anything with them. You won't normally see more than one TAG in a list.

You can do a list that's almost all Remotes but it has several downsides in that they're all hackable, bad at Dodging and once you're Lieutenant is dead you're in serious trouble as you can't pick a Remote as the new Lieutenant.