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That would be awesome, something similar to 1st edition 40k in fact.

Might be easily possible with a screen down the centre of the table? As way of explanation, there could be some kind of interference being caused that makes any kind of scanning technology useless.
In any case it might be able to replicate that wonderful (horrible?) feeling of x-com, where your guy steps around a corner, and a shot comes from the darkness instantly killing him

Now you guys have me thinking about X:COM - Enemy Unknown! Argh. Another thing that I'm looking forward to. This year is going to punch my wallet.

But yeah, I get that vibe from the game as well. Particularly how things tend to be nice and lethal. Keeps people on their toes for sure.

I think it's time to get a P&M Blog up for my Infinity minis, since the only one I've seen so far has been Pacific's, and that is enjoyable for sure.

Haha cheers mate, that reminds me I should update it with all of the terrain I've been building. One great thing about having a low model count, it gives you more time to try and make a good terrain set.
Will definitely keep an eye out for your blog in any case!

Shooting is indeed incredibly lethal in Infinity. Certainly, I got my fingers burnt a few times just from the years of playing 40k. Yes my guy looks like a hard-ass stood in the open in the middle of a road, gun at his hip, shouting the rest of his troops forward. No actually, he's dead

I started painting a ghulam infantry to try and get my colour scheme down last night. I got the desert camo bodysuit done, but these models are very detailed. This is going to take time.

The detail is actually my favorite thing about Infinity miniatures. Anyone that has marginally discovered the usage of washes can paint a pretty good mini.
That being said, I've actually been rather afraid to paint my Ghulam or anyone with a bare face. All those years of painting helmeted 40k figures and monsters has left me looking at human faces as alien territory.

^Speaking of faces, I've heard good things about that DVD Privateer Press has that covers 'core painting techniques', and apparently face-painting is in it. I'm going to be watching that a couple of times before starting on any of my Infinity models.


Let's be sensible please eh ?

Reds8n

Absolutionis wrote:The detail is actually my favorite thing about Infinity miniatures. Anyone that has marginally discovered the usage of washes can paint a pretty good mini.
That being said, I've actually been rather afraid to paint my Ghulam or anyone with a bare face. All those years of painting helmeted 40k figures and monsters has left me looking at human faces as alien territory.

Definitely not saying it's not a good thing. But the last time I painted something this complex was my 3rd edition Salamanders and some Daemonhunter allies. Since then, I've been painting extremely simple Tyranids and moderately detailed Vampire Counts. Infinity is like having 10 characters. With more detail than GW puts on its character models. At a smaller scale.

Completely new territory.

I've just finished my 3 Ghulam models recently, link in my sig, and agree that they are super detailed. The face and hair was the hardest part of the model for me. I managed to get the hair looking ok, but the faces came out very gloomy since I had to use washes to supplement my paint collection. The thing that I get with the models though is that they are a feast on the eyes when finished - if you can manage to find all that detail. I've got Saladin in the mail, and I'm actively dreading trying to paint his cloak and armour.

-Loki- wrote:

Absolutionis wrote:The detail is actually my favorite thing about Infinity miniatures. Anyone that has marginally discovered the usage of washes can paint a pretty good mini.
That being said, I've actually been rather afraid to paint my Ghulam or anyone with a bare face. All those years of painting helmeted 40k figures and monsters has left me looking at human faces as alien territory.

Definitely not saying it's not a good thing. But the last time I painted something this complex was my 3rd edition Salamanders and some Daemonhunter allies. Since then, I've been painting extremely simple Tyranids and moderately detailed Vampire Counts. Infinity is like having 10 characters. With more detail than GW puts on its character models. At a smaller scale.

Completely new territory.

I found the same thing. My first model looked like it had been painted by a deranged baboon, with a mashed crayon wedged between its ass-cheeks.

Having just finished a marine army, I realised that I was almost going into a catatonic state and dribbling with a miniature and brush in my hand, whereas with the Infinity stuff my brain was actually having to take an active role in proceedings beyond simply motor control.

Pacific wrote:My first model looked like it had been painted by a deranged baboon, with a mashed crayon wedged between its ass-cheeks.

LMFAO, the visual on that was just waaaay too vividly clear.

So my first result isn't very good, mostly because I didn't realize a couple of things (not least of which is I painted the arms as if they were part of the bodysuit, but they're meant to be bare).

She's going for a dettol swim and I'll take another stab at it.

Would've liked to see a shot of it anyway! Its good to get feedback on stuff, even if you are just gonna dip the thing again.

I find that the minis are tiny and have incredible detail, so when I screw up and paint things or miss things, it's my fault, not the miniature's. This is a nice change from the LoTR minis, which are tiny, but they tend to blend one bit of detail into the other, causing infuriating confusion where cloth stops and armor begins.

But the Infinity mini's are such high detail! I had fully painted my SAS dude, thought I was done, and then when I went to show him to my friend, I realized I had completely missed the gas-mask that was tied off on the guy's arm!

Damn these eyes!

I know what you mean about the infinity detail. I just started my first couple and I get the feeling they are a make-or-break type of affair. If you finish painting them, you're definitely going to improve your painting. You can't not with that amount of tiny detail to work with!

Funny thing is I have see a lot of people jsut do simple base coats on parts of the models then hit it with washes and they still look great thanks to the wash getting in all the details.

Yup.

I do an undercoat in white, wash with blue or black to pick out panel details, then block in armour panels and other areas.

They aren't going to win any painting awards, but they look good from 3' away - which is all that counts.

Washes work a dream on Infinity models. My test model with desert camo used a simple method of prime grey, paint the areas to be desert camo Jack Bone, wash Gryphonne Sepia, layer some Jack Bone, then layer some Bleached Bone. Worked a treat, the wash really did the trick. I'll likely be changing it to Devlan Mud though, due to Gryphonne Sepia not giving quite enough definition. And because I like Devlan Mud.

It appears my local store has received their Al Hawwa snipers. I'll likely grab that and the nasmats this week, and have my 200 point force.

-Loki- wrote:Washes work a dream on Infinity models. My test model with desert camo used a simple method of prime grey, paint the areas to be desert camo Jack Bone, wash Gryphonne Sepia, layer some Jack Bone, then layer some Bleached Bone. Worked a treat, the wash really did the trick. I'll likely be changing it to Devlan Mud though, due to Gryphonne Sepia not giving quite enough definition. And because I like Devlan Mud.

Of course I believe you but...

...pic, or it didn't happen!

Sure, I haven't stripped it yet. If I remember, I'll take a photo when I get home.


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So my test model.

All kinds of fail. I tried a tan uniform for desert combat, which came out okay, but not quite defined enough. I might try a mix of Gryphonne Sepia with a touch of Devlan Mud for definition next time. I also didn't realize the arms should have been bare, and I have no idea why I thought the pockets on the thighs should be leather instead of the colour of the pants. I wear cargo pants enough. I know how they work. And the Devlan Mud on the pockets completely ruined the front.

But here it is in all its terrible glory.

Hah, you got the same model that I did. I ended up treating all of the pockets and the like as armour, which looks pretty decent. That technique you've got looks good - though I agree that devlan mud would make it pop a little more. I'd be interested to see how the finished model looks, especially the skin, as that was a nightmare for me.

I've been planning an Infinity board to go with my Haqqislam using Maxmini and Sarissa systems parts. The main thing I want to do it desert theme it, so I'll likely be going with a zuzzy mat. What size mat should I grab? Would a regluar 6x4 be too big?

4x4 is all you really need but 6x4 allows you to expand out for a largescale 2x2 match.

I'd get the 6x4. 6x4 length-ways is a good and common size table to play on. As is 4x4. You can play both on a 6x4 mat, you can't play both on a 4x4

Yes, although then you might have the rather over-bearing prospect of trying to cover a 6x4 board with dense terrain. I suppose a lot of it depends on whether you are just using a blank piece of wood as a base, or you are actually building some terrain into the base.

Although I suppose in that situation there would be nothing to stop you 'fencing off' the extra 2 feet or so of terrain.

++EDIT++ Loki, think that in purely technical terms that looks good. You have got nice shading, and I think a good colour for the pants, although I agree it should be one colour or the other for the pants (or else less contrast between the colours).

Just making some counters/templates. Rather than the MAS ones, which are rather expensive, i've just printed the ones provided for free on the forum (from the download section: http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/downloads/markers/[en]Markers.pdf) onto glossy paper. I'm going to mount the smaller round ones onto Mantic Warpath round bases (which fit perfectly with printing straight from the PDF, and are just 1.50GBP for 10), and mount the flamer, smoke and explosion templates onto some 1.5mm plasticard. I'll post pics in my blog when they are done to show how they turned out!

Probably won't look as good as the official MAS ones, but saved me enough money for the Merovingian starter set when it comes.

Pacific wrote:Just making some counters/templates. Rather than the MAS ones, which are rather expensive, i've just printed the ones provided for free on the forum (from the download section: http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/downloads/markers/[en]Markers.pdf) onto glossy paper. I'm going to mount the smaller round ones onto Mantic Warpath round bases (which fit perfectly with printing straight from the PDF, and are just 1.50GBP for 10), and mount the flamer, smoke and explosion templates onto some 1.5mm plasticard. I'll post pics in my blog when they are done to show how they turned out!

Probably won't look as good as the official MAS ones, but saved me enough money for the Merovingian starter set when it comes.

For the round templetes, I bought a 25 pack of CD for 3 bucks. Now I have all the smoke templetes I will ever need.

Hehe really that is unnecessary for the most part. Just place a GW base sized "smoke" marker at the center of the location you will place smoke and anytime the smoke might matter then place a template over it. You'll find that templates everywhere gets cluttered real fast, not to mention trying to balance them on terrain.

BlueDagger wrote:Hehe really that is unnecessary for the most part. Just place a GW base sized "smoke" marker at the center of the location you will place smoke and anytime the smoke might matter then place a template over it. You'll find that templates everywhere gets cluttered real fast, not to mention trying to balance them on terrain.

If i could found a 10 pack I would of bought that. But, I been known to use 4-5 smoke marker in a turn, it's my fav tactic with morlocks, then the killers move up or shoot through the smoke.

In the middle of building my Nasmats, and all I can say is I'm glad Infinity doesn't require multiples of models. These Nasmats, while they look adorable once built, are terrible to actually build.

I've seen less flash on a finecast model, and there's parts that are about 3mm wide and 1/4mm thick attached to pipes 2mm round. It's just a plain old nightmare building these.

Very, very difficult models to assemble. Gluing those arms and guns on, I've found, requires quite precise pinning to ensure durability for the rigors of gaming. These models are for sure not for beginners.

But they are amazingly detailed and awesome figures and a delight to paint. I love them all. Literally, I can't say any of the Infinity models I've bought so far suck. They are great miniatures and among the best out there right now.

But yes as coming from a space marine painter, the exposed flesh has required me to learn and practice how to paint realistic skin and eyes. It hasn't been easy, and several of my models have ended up looking psychotic, and some quite like The Joker.

Psychotic looking eyes works great for Space Marines, but not for these delicate figures. You want to take your time with them and put some energy into them. This is a good thing IMO coming from the perspective of a GW-oriented gamer, as trying to add character to your 50th marine is a dreary prospect, but adding character to your 2nd Infinity figure is a lot less fatiguing.

I'm really, really impressed with this line of models and also have found the game to be very good, although I've only played one game so far. Tomorrow I hope to play more!

I'm breaking a rule and not pinning mine. I've never been good at getting pinned limbs to line up properly. I can live with re-glueing and cleaning up occasionally. Some of the arms have been so thing I don't think I could even actually pin them.

Mate of mine has one, he pinned the feet to the base (using a resin 40mm base to make it easier) and discarded the base extensions because they looked naff.

He's like me - if you can pin a spear head to a spear shaft, pinning Infinity models is a piece of cake.

I use GS+superglue for most of mine. Only the larger pieces get pinned (TAGs).