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Pacific wrote:I mean to me metals have never had that slightly oily residue on them that you get with resins

Graphite is a common release agent for metals. Won't come across as oily, but still not great to leave on.

but it is possible that I have been doing it wrong for 20+ years.

I'm not saying it's wrong to not wash them, but it won't ever hurt. (Well, unless you decide to use warm water for resin models).

Yeah I never wash mine either, though it's probably a smart idea lol. Be forwarded that Infinity minitures are on the high end of the spectrum of difficulty to put together. However the end product is well worth it.

nearly 20+ years of gaming i never wash anything minus FW stuff. never an issue. i also use 1.99 black spray as primer with no issue either.

Hey, check this out.

Is it me or this Resident Evil trailer turns into an INFINITY battle at some point?

Oh my god, I need to clean the drool off my keyboard. That is exactly as I imagine an Infinity fight... with zombies. My brain can't handle shear awesome wrapped with zombies.

*brain explosion*

which rulebook is the current rulebook i should be picking up? i know there are downloads but i like having a book in my hand.

is the human sphere expansion a neccesity?

studderingdave wrote:which rulebook is the current rulebook i should be picking up? i know there are downloads but i like having a book in my hand.

is the human sphere expansion a neccesity?

Let me paste here this, it is from an old message for the same question, because I think it will be useful for you.

You can Download the complete PDF rules for free in the official Infinity website.Use this link.

You can also download the PDF Quickstart Rules made by Beasts of War. I strongly suggest to play your first games using just these rules, let the special habilities for the 2nd or 3rd game.

You can buy the rulebooks. Infinity has TWO rulebooks.
The First one, Infinity the Game, contains all the fluff from all the factions, all the rules and army lists.


The Second Book, Infinity: Human Sphere, is an expansion. It includes new troops, fluff and rules for all the existing armies, it brings the sectorial armies and a brand new army: ALEPH
This is the book that contains the Fireteam rule. IMHO the game got better after the expansion.


The difference between the books and the free PDF is that... the free rules are just the strictly necesary for playing, the books come with art and fluff. The infinity background is very detailed, some factions are much more than the miniatures. Its HUGE.

excellent info. i just got done reading of the beast of war quickstart rules.

im sort of a fluff bunny, so the books have a fair amount of info on the faction right?

also, i bought some drone remotes for my budding shav. force and found they need a hacker or something to use with them, any suggestions?

studderingdave wrote:excellent info. i just got done reading of the beast of war quickstart rules.

im sort of a fluff bunny, so the books have a fair amount of info on the faction right?

also, i bought some drone remotes for my budding shav. force and found they need a hacker or something to use with them, any suggestions?

If you have a TAG in your list you don't need a hacker to field remotes.
The Sphinx is a TAG, so you can deploy remotes with no problem at all.

Went into my FLGS to play some 40k today, and they actually had the 3 pack of Ghulam and 2 pack of Muyibs I wanted!

Now I'm only 3 models short of my 200 point list, an Al Hawwa sniper and 2 Nasmats.

How many D20 dice are you ever going to need in Infinity? Because I'm about to take my first step into the realm of uncommonly-shaped dice, but I know that Infinity doesn't use that much dice, so I want a comfortable amount, but not an excess. I was thinking in the range of between 5 and 10, does this seem fitting?

GoldenKaos wrote:How many D20 dice are you ever going to need in Infinity? Because I'm about to take my first step into the realm of uncommonly-shaped dice, but I know that Infinity doesn't use that much dice, so I want a comfortable amount, but not an excess. I was thinking in the range of between 5 and 10, does this seem fitting?

The highest burst in Infinity is 5 dice. Maybe you can make a 6 dice roll if you get hit by an autocannon or a Viral Combi rifle full burst.
But I can't think of any case where you may need more than 5-6 dice, and those a pretty extreme cases. In fact, 4 is enough.

I'm gonna get 7 because I like the number, plus there's a few left over to keep track of Orders.

GoldenKaos wrote:I'm gonna get 7 because I like the number, plus there's a few left over to keep track of Orders.

4 really is enough much of the time. HMGs and Spitfires have a burst of 4 and are rather common heavy weapons.
Pretty much everyone has Rifles and those things are Burst 3.

As for keeping track of orders, most people just memorize it or use little tokens. Things get complicated when you have Impetuous, Irregular, or Religious troops.
Note that you may want to keep your number of orders secret from your opponent to hide your Lieutenant. Your Lieutenant gets an addition order for themselves and you don't have to (and usually should not) announce it when using it.

I merely mentioned the using of dice to keep track of orders because the rulebook suggests it. I think I can remember a descending single-digit number without needing a dice. XD

Bare in mind it's as much for your opponent as yourself though. Also, you can have quite a few breaks in between actually using orders, if you have some long skills going on, multiple ARO's, things like that.

Personally I think a little pile of tokens which you move to when side following an order is the ideal method.

Yeah I have tried all the methods out there that I have seen and using tokens/coins/candies/glass beads for orders works by far the best.

Absolutionis wrote:4 really is enough much of the time. HMGs and Spitfires have a burst of 4 and are rather common heavy weapons.
Pretty much everyone has Rifles and those things are Burst 3.

Never hurts to buy more though. Dice are constantly getting lost by skittering under things and disappearing, being left at the store, being eaten by vacuum cleaners, etc. Not to mention sometimes you're on one side of the table and need one more which is inconveniently on the other side of the table, under a stairway, which will knock that nice model on top off if you try to get it...

More dice is always good.

While I just about have my 200 point team, I still haven't started painting it (though I have started putting them together). Mostly because I want to start painting them when I have them all (and I'm still missing the Al Hawwa sniper my FLGS never has in stock and the two Nasmats) and also because I've been making a huge push to get my Tyranids at least painted to 1000 points.

Seriously considering a battlefoam infinity bag for them. At the moment they're in my 1520xl, and if I'm going to the FLGS to play a game of Infinity, I don't really want to lug that around.

Coordinated orders from two HMG models can roll a ton of dice. Have 10 handy, 4 one color, 4 another, and 2 a third. Makes rolling real simple when you can color-coordinate. Also, folks forget dice a lot and you'll often want 5 minimum, so with 10 you can lend your buddy a set.

I use D10s to count my orders, but whatever system you use you need to be clear with your opponent when and how you spend each order, and how many you have left. Otherwise disputes do seem to arise, as counting orders is such an important part of the game (gotta figure out who their Lt. is, right?).

Savnock wrote:Coordinated orders from two HMG models can roll a ton of dice.

As Burst values are halved in Co-ordinated shooting orders (see p148, assuming the PDF pg numbers match the proper one. Still waiting for the mailman to bring me a real copy... ), two HMG models in concert shouldn't be rolling more dice than a single one firing on their own.

That said, it is still possible to roll more dice in a co-ordinated order (e.g. three Rifle armed models shooting in unison would need 6 dice) than normal.

Extra dice also count for link teams.
The +1B means a HMG in the team (if leader) is rolling FIVE dice for BS attacks instead of 4 (and two in ARO).

I have about a dozen or 15 dice (d20s). About the same of d8, 10 and 12s.

I'm just using glass beads to count orders. The sort that magic players used back in the 90s for their "life points" (or whatever they used - I never played and never cared enough to learn).

Well the maximum number of dice you can roll at like 300pts is like 116 dice in a single order for a face to face roll, but that is kinda besides the point. The max any single model can roll is 5 at this time, so that is really the max you need.

How did you get that number of 116 BlueDagger?

I suspect involves shotgun blasts down a suppression fire corridor into a link team that are crossing the corridor.

Heh, 37 Metros suppressive firing down a passage with rifles and some poor sap walking down the fire lane.

awww dang it, recently just got the haqq starter box and the rule book i wish id seen this thread before....

so if i was to start a nomad force where would you start?

also @ IJW thank you very much for your painting thread on the infinity forms its what motivated me to start infinity


- The Snow Leopard

The Bakunin starter has (in my opinion) nicer models than the normal Nomad starter and works fine as either vanilla Nomads or Bakunin Sectorial.

The best way to explain infinity (you may need to be a certain age for this) is to think of the X-Com games translated to the tabletop

Being that certain age doesn't help when you never played X-com (I was never really a computer gamer and I'm 43).

I describe it as "Ghost in the shell meets appleseed via tabletop miniatures".

My club got another convert today. That makes 8 out of a regular membership of 10.

Nice, and yeah it is rather X-Com like. I have always wanted to do an Infinity match where there is a ref and two tables that aren't able to see each other. One player is on one table the other is on the other. Players can't see each other's models untill there is LoS between them. Once LOS is attained the Ref places a mini on the player's table.

That is close as I can think to true fog of war x-com style.