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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 11:48:38
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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A test model for my future IG army.
Background.
A few years ago I did some daemons with the GW washes over mithril silver.
So this time in search of a very quick way to paint IG I stumbled on a Krieg force using washes as the primary painting method on a chaos dwarf forum.
The start model:
I then sprayed it white and a quick skull white paint job:
I then started with devla]n mud on the coat (I also got a bit distracted and forgot to take more photos)
About 1 hour later and 2 layers of:
Coat and dirt - Devlan mud
Uniform, boots: Black (I'm sure there is something wrong with my black it always comes out really thin)
Wood: Ogryn flesh
Mask, gaiters and straps: Gryphonne Sepia
Goggles: Baal Red
Blue bits: Asurmen ble
The wire in the wood is 2 layers badab black and 1 of devlan mud.
Then Krylon Matte Varnish and some flock gives me (a bit shiny due to flash)...
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2011/12/29 12:02:43
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 14:55:24
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
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You might be on to something here...
And you got this result with only 2 layers of washes, no highlights, no basecoat apart from the white, nothing?
The possibilities for speed painting are endless!!!
And how did it look without the matte varnish?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 16:07:14
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Well, the speed is nice, but it very much looks like a wash over white, e.g. it looks like what it is. Maybe it wouldn't be as bad en-masse, so it might have some application, though they would clash pretty hard with any hand painted models in your army.
Personally I would have a hard time forking out all that money for a krieger army and then throwing a paintjob like this on them.
That being said...
I have to admit, for a single coat paint job it looks tons better than if you had just used traditional acrylic paints. I would probably recommend this technique anyone who doesn't have patience for 2+ coat paintjobs e.g. a good half of the players out there.
So all in all, good job.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 19:22:54
Subject: Re:And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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1st Lieutenant
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Hmm, I wonder how this would turn out if it was over a grey primer to add some additional depth to the washes? Especially in the black areas. Question: how much wash did you use on the model vs paint though? I know that's not a super easy question to ask, but for me I use the cheap craft paints for my base colors such as black & brown & then GW/vallejo for the more in-depth colors & tones but the damned washes aren't cheap so I'm curious how economical this would actually be for an IG army vs paint?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 19:37:30
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Stubborn Hammerer
Rotterdam, the Netherlands
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riplikash wrote:I would probably recommend this technique anyone who doesn't have patience for 2+ coat paintjobs e.g. a good half of the players out there.
That's not exactly the demographic for Death Korps armies though  .
On the method: yeah it's the quickest method with the best results. I wouldn't use it on my Krieg personally as I like to put a little more love into them, but I have used this method to great effect to paint Ork skin, which has saved me countless hours. I was able to paint 100+ Ork skins in just under two hours. (white base coat, devlan mud, thraka green, thraka green)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 20:53:21
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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1-2 layers on white basecoat.
I'm still convinced my Badab black is way to thin compared to the results others are getting.
Pics without flash...
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2026: Games Played:22/Models Bought:323/Sold:17/Painted:133
2025: Games Played:21/Models Bought:299/Sold:294/Painted:199
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2012-19: Games Played:781/Models Bought: 1935/Sold:1108/Painted:704 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 21:11:10
Subject: Re:And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Fixture of Dakka
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I like it!
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Come again some other day
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I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 21:16:31
Subject: Re:And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Longmeadow MA 25+ Trade Rep
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The wash method is the way I've done my Warriors of Chaos army, and I really like it. It's very unforgiving, as you need to be accurate because you are essentially using Watercolors. Go at it with thin layers of wash, that will build you up to the effect you are looking for especially with the Badab Black.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/29 21:22:16
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Guardsman with Flashlight
Dayton Ohio
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I like this look. Im wondering if one or two more coats on the coat would make it just a tab bit darker? Other than the coat looking a little to light the rest looks good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/30 14:58:36
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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I think the Krieg fella turned out great. This is a great way to quickly paint up an army, though I feel like on some models it might not work as well, orks for example.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/30 15:02:10
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Martial Arts Fiday
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I would prime it lightly with black or dark gray and then prime from just the top down with the white. Then do your wash magic. This would really add depth to the model without adding that dreaded "time" thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/30 15:03:34
Subject: Re:And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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He does look a little 'washed out' with too much white, but I really like the technique. I'd like to see one done in grey like everyone else is saying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/30 15:56:34
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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I do this with orks at my shop to show customers how easy it can be to paint up models quick. If you do an over all coat of blk wash first, you set all the shadows and dark lines in. Creating like a coloring book out line. Then go at it with the steps you have and see if you like it. The model will have a much more finished look to it and the detail will be richer and more defined. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/31 02:37:01
Subject: Re:And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Painting Within the Lines
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A great job for what it is. helpfull info!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/31 04:15:22
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Captain Vyper wrote:I do this with orks at my shop to show customers how easy it can be to paint up models quick. If you do an over all coat of blk wash first, you set all the shadows and dark lines in. Creating like a coloring book out line. Then go at it with the steps you have and see if you like it. The model will have a much more finished look to it and the detail will be richer and more defined. Good luck and thanks for sharing.
A thinned Badab black wash?
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2026: Games Played:22/Models Bought:323/Sold:17/Painted:133
2025: Games Played:21/Models Bought:299/Sold:294/Painted:199
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
2012-19: Games Played:781/Models Bought: 1935/Sold:1108/Painted:704 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/31 08:01:59
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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I very much like it, WG. It's simple--yet effective. Matte it down a bit and do some weathering along the edge of the coat with really really thin layers of powders and you could have something gorgeous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/31 10:40:04
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
The ruins of the Palace of Thorns
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Astroman wrote:I think the Krieg fella turned out great. This is a great way to quickly paint up an army, though I feel like on some models it might not work as well, orks for example.
On the contrary - it works very well for Orks. This is with a white undercoat, then metals painted, then a Badab Black wash (not thinned at all), then you should be able to work out the rest, or follow the link to the gallery for slightly more detail. It does not look perfect, but it is a good way to paint lots of Orks quickly if, like me, you are a slow painter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/31 20:31:02
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Dakka Veteran
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Respectfully, I still feel it does not work as well on ork skin. I just find it to be too water color-ish and not dark enough no matter how many coats you put on, but to each his/her own. Your model certainly looks very nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/31 22:15:09
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
The ruins of the Palace of Thorns
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Well, fair enough. I think it is decent enough, though I admit that if I had the time and patience, it is not how I would choose to paint Orks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/31 23:08:51
Subject: And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate
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*looks at own kreig then looks a computer screen*
Hucking Fell! Those DKOK look fantastic! I love them. More pics soon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/31 23:19:41
Subject: Re:And now for something completely different: Krieg.
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Painting Within the Lines
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Some may be missing the point here which is that its supposed to be for blowing through a squad quickly. Good for noobs or the impatient. I have seen people work harder with less results.
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