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I've been looking all over for a decent picture of the lascannon rear detail and found that the original FW assemble instructions had a perfect image of the side and bottom detail!!!

Incidentally it's called a "Turbo Laser"! Why doesn't somebody tell me these things??? LOL

The red faced Blackadder

can warhounds take turbolasers?

if so I am gonna give my imaginary warhound 2...........

DC

deadly chicken wrote:can warhounds take turbolasers?

if so I am gonna give my imaginary warhound 2...........

DC

It's quite clear they can. The information is right out of der buch der unstrrucshions (the German word for 'instructions' is unrecognizable...Unterricht or Anweisungen LOL)

EB

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Wow, I swear that looks better than FWs.

QFT

How many weapons are you planing on, I presume you're making them swappable?

jabbakahut wrote:How many weapons are you planing on, I presume you're making them swappable?

I intend to make the full compliment of arms eventually but the next weapon is (as I am working out the basic shape right now) the dual lascannon (Turbo laser). That should be relatively simple as the complexity of the detail is much less than the bolter. There a also a few new weapons introduced by FW for the Reaver titan. I may make those in a scaled down version for the Warhound but after I get the Turbo laser completed and the arm hangers I will complete the Warhound before making any more weapons.

I don't relish making another plasma cannon as I hate repetition especially on a scale this size but I must as the Hunter's cannon isn't adaptable to the Warhound.

The weapons of course will pop onto the rotator spheres and the cable conduits will plug in.

Blackadder

I had some requests on another forum for pictures with a few figures to get a sense of the size of Lucie. It would be interesting if someone with a real FW 'hound could take a similar set of images that I might compare my effort to the real thing as it doesn't seem likely that I'll be seeing one in the near future.

I did post images with some Catchans literally underfoot and others with a Sentinel actually underfoot. As big as it looks Lucie stands only ten and a half inches high which scalewise translates to about fifty feet tall or twice the height of your average two story suburban home.

Below are a few pictures I just took tonight with my poor obsolete camera. Surprising how many different shades that lamp puts out.

I have it on authority that the figure between the feet is a Tech Priest who (No doubt sans fey regalia.) would be in charge of the beastie. So help me the grey color is growing on me I may go with the grey on grey camo after all.

The_Blackadder wrote:It would be interesting if someone with a real FW 'hound could take a similar set of images that I might compare my effort to the real thing as it doesn't seem likely that I'll be seeing one in the near future.

Do you have WD 334? The one which features Apocalypse? That might help... If not, there's always Google if nobody can give you a size comparison picture.

The_Blackadder wrote:So help me the grey color is growing on me I may go with the grey on grey camo after all.

When it comes to stuff like colour schemes and such, nobody can truly help you out. If grey is a favourite colour choice of yours, then go with it. You'll find that you may prefer the over-all outcome of the titan because of this, where-as you may be more critical of it if you were to choose another colour scheme. Whatever you do, don't ponder over a choice like this - It'll just get you nowhere. Sometimes it's all too easy to spend a long time planning on things, and yet not actually get anything done.

Anyways... It's all looking good from what I can see Blackadder. As usual - Keep it up!

Sage advise Cosmic. Actually I have had the better part of two years to ponder the colour scheme although the actual build really commenced in ernest April of this year. Since the material is too fragile to paint more than once I'll have to be sure of the design I select. There's a lot more leeway on resin models as the material is so tough and hard that if you don't like the colour you can scrap it off and repaint it. Thats what I did with all the derelicts I bought on ebay. Yeah I know you can use Simple green but its way too late for that.

Well I have a couple more weeks before I make my final decision. The lascannon whoops I mean Turbo Laser is coming along nicely now that I have the final basic shape done. All that left is the detailing which to me is the icing on the cake, I love detailing. Here's the basic body that I just put the finishing touches on today. Yup no barrels yet, they're detail.

As usual FW's design is a lot more complicated than a casual glance would allow. There are many cutouts and recesses that make the overall model come alive instead of looking like a couple of scale shoeboxes glued together. The FW designers are true artists as well as d--ned fine engineers and I would love to see concept drawings and prototype models. They should offer that to the public. I also would like to know whether this was the effort of one individual or a team.

Nice, Cant wait for detail.

The_Blackadder wrote:I also would like to know whether this was the effort of one individual or a team.

I think all of the titan stuff (both patterns and the Reaver) were created by the dynamic duo of Will Hayes and Simon Egan.

Sorry, I don't have any sentinels in which to photocopy for you.

My poor showing for this weekend. The hull of the Turbo laser detail and the beginning of the base of the barrel of one of the guns using a wrap of the aforementioned HO boxcar siding

Hot diggity dog, this looks better every time I look at it.

Truley is outstanding, your accuracte replication of this model, on the begennings of the turbo laser is just amazing

Well done, keep it up, and I look forward to your next update

Thanks and who might be that strange fellow in your avatar???

The one and Only Mr. Bean, who according to my mum, looks alot like me... which he doesnt lol.

Anyway, must get some help from you on working with those materials you are using.

So to create the barrel you wrap the card around an xacto? How do you close and hide that seam?

AWESOME

Very nice Blackadder.

The_Blackadder wrote:Thanks and who might be that strange fellow in your avatar???

jabbakahut wrote:So to create the barrel you wrap the card around an xacto? How do you close and hide that seam?

First of all I knew full well that Wolf's avatar was Rohin Atkinson in his Mr Bean persona. That was supposed to be what you may call a bit of a joke; yeesh!

That out of the way to the business at hand.

Plasticard telescoping tubing only comes in sizes up to 0.5 inches so to get the necessary barrel thickness which I calculated to be about 0.625 inches I had to wrap some thin stock around the 0.5 inch tube. The exacto handle is 0.375 and I use it to prevent the tube from collapsing when I clamp it. I use this technique quite regularly as when I made the hydraulic cylinders, the band around the hip barrel, the rim around the hip and ankle gimbals, the collar around the gun mount gimbals and the waist swivel gear. I glue the end of the card stock to the cylinder insuring it's square with the tube and allow it to dry. Then I file the end to a fine bevel and proceed to wrap and glue until the desired thickness is achieved. another coat of glue and clamp until dry at which point there is a raised seam that gets beveled with a file so it is barely perceptible. There is usually some structure that will hide the seam if need be as in this case where the two barrels will be in close proximity so the seam could be hidden there.

Hey we're talking about FW here. You know how bad their castings are anyway. LOL

Blackadder

Interesting, you use a metal file or like a nail file?

If nothing your 'hound will look better because it won't contain any of those horrible mold shifts!

Hey Blackadder nice looking model you got there. You've inspired me to try to make a Mars Pattern puppy instead of wishing for a FW warhound to drop outta the sky. I just have a couple of quick questions on the size of some materials. Sorry if you already covered it in a previous post.

First, how large was the ball you used for your ankle. I'm leaning towards 1" wooden balls for the ankles, waists, and arms, but I would still like to know the right dimensions.

Second, how thick was your base ankle tube. It looks like 0.5".

Third, what size square tube styrene did you use for the legs?

From what I've seen making this seems easy enough with the right amount of patience. Just start simple, then add details. The only problem I see is getting the dimensions right. Any useful tips on making the legs?

-Kal

The_Blackadder wrote:

jabbakahut wrote:So to create the barrel you wrap the card around an xacto? How do you close and hide that seam?

First of all I knew full well that Wolf's avatar was Rohin Atkinson in his Mr Bean persona. That was supposed to be what you may call a bit of a joke; yeesh!

I know, the picture posted was a bit of a celebration of that fact.

Plus, the idea of Blackadder as an inquisitor amuses me.

That being said, top performance all around. I love the model.

Kaladin wrote:Hey Blackadder nice looking model you got there. You've inspired me to try to make a Mars Pattern puppy instead of wishing for a FW warhound to drop outta the sky. I just have a couple of quick questions on the size of some materials. Sorry if you already covered it in a previous post.

First, how large was the ball you used for your ankle. I'm leaning towards 1" wooden balls for the ankles, waists, and arms, but I would still like to know the right dimensions.

Second, how thick was your base ankle tube. It looks like 0.5".

Third, what size square tube styrene did you use for the legs?

From what I've seen making this seems easy enough with the right amount of patience. Just start simple, then add details. The only problem I see is getting the dimensions right. Any useful tips on making the legs?

-Kal

I'll answer your questions in full tomorrow I just put in a long day today and am bushed. I'm very pleased to offer what help I can but to be fair; I don't have any accurate measurements just educated guesses so the info I give you may not be totally correct.

A Mars pattern, thats an ambitious project. Sculpting skills in addition to boxcutter skills I'm looking forward to your thread.

Blackadder

The_Blackadder wrote:

Kaladin wrote:Hey Blackadder nice looking model you got there. You've inspired me to try to make a Mars Pattern puppy instead of wishing for a FW warhound to drop outta the sky. I just have a couple of quick questions on the size of some materials. Sorry if you already covered it in a previous post.

First, how large was the ball you used for your ankle. I'm leaning towards 1" wooden balls for the ankles, waists, and arms, but I would still like to know the right dimensions.

Second, how thick was your base ankle tube. It looks like 0.5".

Third, what size square tube styrene did you use for the legs?

From what I've seen making this seems easy enough with the right amount of patience. Just start simple, then add details. The only problem I see is getting the dimensions right. Any useful tips on making the legs?

-Kal

I'll answer your questions in full tomorrow I just put in a long day today and am bushed. I'm very pleased to offer what help I can but to be fair; I don't have any accurate measurements just educated guesses so the info I give you may not be totally correct.

A Mars pattern, thats an ambitious project. Sculpting skills in addition to boxcutter skills I'm looking forward to your thread.

Blackadder

Thanks, man. I got a toe done today (I'm impressed with myself considering this is my first time ever working with Styrene, lol I'm such a noob) and I'll get pics by tomorrow. Yea Mars Pattern will be tough because its sleek and curvy, but for the body and shin guards I am just going to sand wooden molds for each and heat the plastic onto it making nice smooth curves. Unfortunately, a woman's hair dryer was not hot enough for the styrene, though. Maybe I have to heat it longer, but I digress... I am probably going to fudge the measurements like you. I am praying I am right on my calculations (kinda ironic for an engineering student), but even if I mess up I got practice modeling.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/260414.page

^Along with your thread, this one is very helpful for reference and the detail is down right impressive. The legs don't scare me modeling-wise at all, it's the head and body. Mine will probably end up as a crude version of his but the fact that I made a titan will be sweet.

Finally, here's a fun idea. LED's inside the head to make the eyes glow. I will probably attempt this much later once I get modeling down.

take it easy,

Kal

Kaladin

You are more then likely going to have to go and purchase a heat gone from an electrical store or hardware store. We use them all the time for heat shrink and are a little bit hotter then a basic hair drier without all the wind. Also use to use them to help put Kiwi wax on boots.

Kaladin wrote:Hey Blackadder nice looking model you got there. You've inspired me to try to make a Mars Pattern puppy instead of wishing for a FW warhound to drop outta the sky. I just have a couple of quick questions on the size of some materials. Sorry if you already covered it in a previous post.

First, how large was the ball you used for your ankle. I'm leaning towards 1" wooden balls for the ankles, waists, and arms, but I would still like to know the right dimensions.

Quite correct I used 1.0" balls for the ankles but the waist spheres should be 1.125" (1 1/8") but you will have the devil of a time finding them. For the arms I used 0.875" (7/8") spheres and the neck is a 1.25" (1 1/4")wooden drawer pull.

Second, how thick was your base ankle tube. It looks like 0.5".

The base ankle tube is 0.664"( A shade under 11/16"). How I came up with that measurement I don't know. it just looked right.

Third, what size square tube styrene did you use for the legs?

I used four (3/8) grey styrene hollow square stock; (I don't know the manufacturer) but it has thicker walls than the Evergreen. If I had it to do over I would just use Evergreen stock. The reason for that was to provide a good base for the joint tubes to be epoxied to the leg segments. The leg units in cross section are 0.93" X 0.85" again it just looked right. I built them up by sheathing them in Plasticard stock.

From what I've seen making this seems easy enough with the right amount of patience. Just start simple, then add details. The only problem I see is getting the dimensions right. Any useful tips on making the legs?

All these measurements are just my guesses, I don't have any dimensions taken from a FW model for you.

The wretched Blackadder


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Kaladin wrote:

The_Blackadder wrote:

Kaladin wrote:Hey Blackadder nice looking model you got there. You've inspired me to try to make a Mars Pattern puppy instead of wishing for a FW warhound to drop outta the sky. I just have a couple of quick questions on the size of some materials. Sorry if you already covered it in a previous post.

First, how large was the ball you used for your ankle. I'm leaning towards 1" wooden balls for the ankles, waists, and arms, but I would still like to know the right dimensions.

Second, how thick was your base ankle tube. It looks like 0.5".

Third, what size square tube styrene did you use for the legs?

From what I've seen making this seems easy enough with the right amount of patience. Just start simple, then add details. The only problem I see is getting the dimensions right. Any useful tips on making the legs?

-Kal

I'll answer your questions in full tomorrow I just put in a long day today and am bushed. I'm very pleased to offer what help I can but to be fair; I don't have any accurate measurements just educated guesses so the info I give you may not be totally correct.

A Mars pattern, thats an ambitious project. Sculpting skills in addition to boxcutter skills I'm looking forward to your thread.

Blackadder

Thanks, man. I got a toe done today (I'm impressed with myself considering this is my first time ever working with Styrene, lol I'm such a noob) and I'll get pics by tomorrow. Yea Mars Pattern will be tough because its sleek and curvy, but for the body and shin guards I am just going to sand wooden molds for each and heat the plastic onto it making nice smooth curves. Unfortunately, a woman's hair dryer was not hot enough for the styrene, though. Maybe I have to heat it longer, but I digress... I am probably going to fudge the measurements like you. I am praying I am right on my calculations (kinda ironic for an engineering student), but even if I mess up I got practice modeling.

My idea was to build a foam core poster board base and smear epoxy over it and sand it smooth. Of course I would be building a chaos model so flaws would be a plus. I really think FW uses the QC rejects to flesh out their Chaos stock and the really bad stuff become Ork models. LOL

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/260414.page

^Along with your thread, this one is very helpful for reference and the detail is down right impressive. The legs don't scare me modeling-wise at all, it's the head and body. Mine will probably end up as a crude version of his but the fact that I made a titan will be sweet.

Finally, here's a fun idea. LED's inside the head to make the eyes glow. I will probably attempt this much later once I get modeling down.

I've toyed with the idea of LED headlights which is why the sockets are still empty.

EB

titasah64 wrote:Kaladin

You are more then likely going to have to go and purchase a heat gone from an electrical store or hardware store. We use them all the time for heat shrink and are a little bit hotter then a basic hair drier without all the wind. Also use to use them to help put Kiwi wax on boots.

Ah, it is as I feared. Alright, looks like I have to invest more money into this project. Thanks.

The_Blackadder wrote:

My idea was to build a foam core poster board base and smear epoxy over it and sand it smooth. Of course I would be building a chaos model so flaws would be a plus. I really think FW uses the QC rejects to flesh out their Chaos stock and the really bad stuff become Ork models. LOL

Hah, well any mistake can be made into "battle damage" but you can't fix Ork tech, lol. Anyway, thanks for your measurements. I will probably play it by eye, too, but I just needed some idea of the proportions. I'll try to get a thread up tonight for my puppy if I can get my webcam to take high detailed images, but so far no luck. Thankfully, there's always the internet to save me.

Thanks for all the help,

Kal

Not being a gentleman of leisure I've spent the better part of my past three weekends raking leaves. Fine employment for my time when I should be working on that d---ed Turbo laser.

Here's the poor showing for this week.

Blackadder

The_Blackadder wrote:Here's the poor showing for this week.

No worries, Blackadder, at least it's some progress, as a suppose to none. Not that I'm saying that you don't deliver constant updates of this project - Far from it, in fact. Since you began, you've managed to keep up a really good level of dedication and progress. Look at it this way: The end is almost within reach now!

I'd imagine that it's almost time to mount the barrels onto the main weapon part. Are you going to just glue them straight on, or reinforce the bond by adding something more? Perhaps this isn't necessary... Well, I'm sure that I'll find out soon - Keep to the Emperor's word!