The Dust Tactics (& Dust Warfare) News and Rumors Thread

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**rwwin**

Necros wrote:OK cool, I guess I'll start with the old one then and I can get the newer one later if I like it.

about the models.. are they "real" models that we gotta build like GW plastics? Or more like little action figures? Since it's a board game can you pack it all up like monopoly when you're done or am I gonna want to get foam trays and all that stuff?

As others have said it's a great deal and has different figures than the upcoming new core box. If you're going to get the base set and use it as is, then you can just toss the infantry figures back in the box without much though. The primer coat from the factory is very tough. The robots need some care but can go back in the plastic trays in the box.

If you're going to get the premium edition or paint the figures yourself, then you'll probably want to treat them like painted 40K plastics (i.e. some sort of protection so the paint doesn't come off).

**Necros**

Honestly, the main reason I want it is cuz I think the models are cool and I wanna paint them

I actually don't get to play much at all these days, but I'd still like to learn it for the few times I do... So if it's fast paced and easy to learn that's a big bonus for me.

What's the premium edition? or is that what they call the old starter set?

**BrookM**

Premium edition is the starter set, but at three times the regular price, but painted to a very high standard.

And if curious about the rules: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/dust-tactics/support/dust-tactics-rulebook.pdf

**rwwin**

Necros wrote:What's the premium edition? or is that what they call the old starter set?

Boardgamegeek has some links to some useful video reivews of the premium set:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/36367/dust-tactics

**Duncan_Idaho**

Premium Edition: All boxes painted up to studio standard ( there are way more premium boxes out right now besides the starter box). You can get premium either via Dust Studios or FFG directly.

@Models
If you know the AT-43 models DT-models are one notch up when it comes to detail/design and the prepiming/preassembling helps a lot to get a quick start. And the assambling is quite good.

**Necros**

Ah .. well, since i'm going to paint myself it'd be a waste to get the premium editions but I can see how that would come in real handy for the folks that don't like to paint

Looked over the rules PDF, seems like it'll be real fun and easy to learn

**Pael**

Review available to see what is in the first core box!!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Dust_Tactics_Core_Box_Review#Dust_Tactics_Core_Box_Review

**Duncan_Idaho**

Or you go to the beginning of this thread.

**BrookM**

Shhh, let the new Dust player have fun, it's adorable!

**Some_Call_Me_Tim?**

Duncan_Idaho wrote:@GIOX
Please watch your language.

Go, design your own game if you think you can do it better, meanwhile FFG at least earns money with the game and secures the further future of the game.

P.S: You are the first user ever for whom i push the Ignore button. Consider yourself somethin special.

Agreed! And, Duncan, I want to congratulate you on being so polite to that troll, GIOX. I would get really mad, if, like you I had worked hard on designing a game, and then, becuase of one change to the rules, people start flipping you and your company the digital bird.

_Tim?

P.S. And, yes, when the new box comes out, I am probably gonna scrape together some funds and get it! It will be around $45 on Miniaturemarket, and that is, IMO, the PERFECT price for me.

**BrookM**

I just noticed something as I'm going over my Allied decal sheet. Those names listed there are for the most part the names of characters, both released and unreleased. The new Allied core set hero is named Rhino and what's on the decal sheet? Four Rhino decals. There's also a "OZZ 117" name decal and one for the Deathdealers. Big question is, can we expect a "Lola" sooner or later for the Allies and a "Angela" for the Germans?

**Duncan_Idaho**

@Tim
Before you get the wrong ideas. I am not belonging to FFG or am the rules designer of the game. I am just a Freelancer that works for many companies in the business and tries to get his informations right.

**Pael**

@ duncan One big difference, mine is on Dakka lol

**[So]Rice**

I have a Battle Report with painted models here:
http://boardgamegeek.com/article/6915388#6915388

**BrookM**

What will happen to Joe and Sigrid by the way when they phase out the old starter set? While I'm nagging, any word on when we can expect Johnny "One Eye" and Stefan?

**His Master's Voice**

BrookM wrote:What will happen to Joe and Sigrid by the way when they phase out the old starter set? While I'm nagging, any word on when we can expect Johnny "One Eye" and Stefan?

Guess they might get a resin treatment from Dust Games themselves. They supposedly have plans for releasing at least some of the 1/48 infantry in unpainted resin versions and heroes make the most sense to be done first.

**BrookM**

You mean like this guy?

fake edit.

He's a tempting replacement for my current Kommandotrupp officer.

**His Master's Voice**

Yep, something like that. Not soon though as far as I can tell from the mail I got from them.

**BrookM**

You mean the "Buy 2 get 1 free" terrain deal?

**Necros**

what's the difference between dust games and fantasy flight? or are they both the same? I just don't wanna invest in a game and then have a new "official" one come out suddenly that's all different

**Some_Call_Me_Tim?**

Necros wrote:what's the difference between dust games and fantasy flight? or are they both the same? I just don't wanna invest in a game and then have a new "official" one come out suddenly that's all different

Dust Games is (AFAIK) in charge of designing the game, writing the fluff, and stuff like that. FFG produces the game and markets it.

_Tim?

**His Master's Voice**

BrookM wrote:You mean the "Buy 2 get 1 free" terrain deal?

Nah, I was buying the Manfred/Laufer bundle, asked them about future releases and got a personal reply from on of their guys.

**BrookM**

His Master's Voice wrote:
BrookM wrote:You mean the "Buy 2 get 1 free" terrain deal?

Nah, I was buying the Manfred/Laufer bundle, asked them about future releases and got a personal reply from on of their guys.

A tempting deal, the only keeping me from getting the bot as well is a lack of rules for the beaut.

**wildger**

BrookM wrote:You mean the "Buy 2 get 1 free" terrain deal?

Hardly a deal if you have to pay for the postage as well. My only complain about this game so far is that FFG should legalize all the models put out by Dust Models.

**frozenwastes**

[quote=[So]Rice]I have a Battle Report with painted models here:
http://boardgamegeek.com/article/6915388#6915388

**BrookM**

Operation SeeLöwe rules are now on-line: http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/dust-tactics/SeeLowe-rules/DT_Operation%20SeeL%C3%B6we_US_FFG_sm.pdf

Encounter top-secret enemy technology at the naval base of Scapa Flow during Operation “SeeLöwe,” a campaign expansion for Dust Tactics. While the Axis powers seek to seize or destroy a revolutionary new Allied aircraft carrier, the Allies get their first glimpse at Markus, leader of the Axis war gorillas, and a master of combat at range C, a range designation clarified in the rules.

New Tech, New Rules

Additional rules detail how buildings impact cover and movement, introduce reactive fire, and let you control the Allies’ first ever “phaser” weapons. You can also find rules for Heroic Attack and learn how “Ozz 117” can inspire troops to incredible feats.

The rulebook also contains previously unreleased intelligence reports on the Blutkreuz Korps and their research into genetic engineering and the Wiederbeleben Serum, along with its astonishing revivifying powers!

Before you launch your attack, check out the new rules of engagement for Operation “SeeLöwe” (pdf, 3.2 MB), now available for download on the support page.

Knowledge is power as both sides bring new technological and scientific advances to the war effort!

**BrookM**

The rules also contain again the revised point values and as an added bonus revised point values for all scenarios of Blue Thunder and Operation Cyclone.

**Pael**

Sweet thanks for the find!!! I for one like the new points values. I dislike the whole one or two points for stuff, I like my numbers to be big, big I tells ya!

**Ghrik**

Thanks for the information.

There is also an painting contest until July 1st where you can win some of the new boxes:
http://fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=2346

**pombe**

Oh, how will the new box set and rules affect Operation Cyclone?