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2012/07/31 03:32:03
Subject: The Thousand Sons
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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daveNYC wrote:Nope. That was just foreshadowing the fact that Kharn is weapons grade loco and cares not from where the blood flows. There is also the cliché that evil pprovides the seeds for its own demise.
So while they might not turn on Chaos itself, they might turn on themselves?
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/31 03:37:40
Subject: The Thousand Sons
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Tadashi wrote:I have to wonder about Captain Kalliston's final vision before he died...he mentioned that at the end, Kharn would turn against whatever sought to use him. If we apply this not just to Kharn, does it mean the Traitor Legions will eventually turn against Chaos?
and the fact that he's mind is toast...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/07/31 03:42:21
Subject: The Thousand Sons
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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DatrhMarko wrote:Tadashi wrote:I have to wonder about Captain Kalliston's final vision before he died...he mentioned that at the end, Kharn would turn against whatever sought to use him. If we apply this not just to Kharn, does it mean the Traitor Legions will eventually turn against Chaos?
and the fact that he's mind is toast...
Who? Kharn or Kalliston? Kalliston was thinking rationally at the end - he even wondered if he shouldn't have offered to help his cousin, and in so doing might have lived and rejoined his legion. But he finally decided he was right to try, and that to die as a loyal 'Son of the Imperium' was enough for him.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/31 03:48:11
Subject: The Thousand Sons
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Tadashi wrote:DatrhMarko wrote:Tadashi wrote:I have to wonder about Captain Kalliston's final vision before he died...he mentioned that at the end, Kharn would turn against whatever sought to use him. If we apply this not just to Kharn, does it mean the Traitor Legions will eventually turn against Chaos?
and the fact that he's mind is toast...
Who? Kharn or Kalliston? Kalliston was thinking rationally at the end - he even wondered if he shouldn't have offered to help his cousin, and in so doing might have lived and rejoined his legion. But he finally decided he was right to try, and that to die as a loyal 'Son of the Imperium' was enough for him.
Kharn's Ofc...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/07/31 04:00:49
Subject: The Thousand Sons
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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DatrhMarko wrote:Tadashi wrote:DatrhMarko wrote:Tadashi wrote:I have to wonder about Captain Kalliston's final vision before he died...he mentioned that at the end, Kharn would turn against whatever sought to use him. If we apply this not just to Kharn, does it mean the Traitor Legions will eventually turn against Chaos?
and the fact that he's mind is toast...
Who? Kharn or Kalliston? Kalliston was thinking rationally at the end - he even wondered if he shouldn't have offered to help his cousin, and in so doing might have lived and rejoined his legion. But he finally decided he was right to try, and that to die as a loyal 'Son of the Imperium' was enough for him.
Kharn's Ofc...
Oh...sorry, I misunderstood.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/31 05:23:57
Subject: The Thousand Sons
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Tadashi wrote:I have to wonder about Captain Kalliston's final vision before he died...he mentioned that at the end, Kharn would turn against whatever sought to use him. If we apply this not just to Kharn, does it mean the Traitor Legions will eventually turn against Chaos?
Kharn will overthrow Khorne and become the new Blood God. 
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2012/07/31 05:51:37
Subject: The Thousand Sons
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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SkyD wrote:Tadashi wrote:I have to wonder about Captain Kalliston's final vision before he died...he mentioned that at the end, Kharn would turn against whatever sought to use him. If we apply this not just to Kharn, does it mean the Traitor Legions will eventually turn against Chaos?
Kharn will overthrow Khorne and become the new Blood God.
More likely do something that will start a chain-reaction of events leading to Khorne's demise.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/31 18:35:24
Subject: The Thousand Sons
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Tadashi wrote:SkyD wrote:Tadashi wrote:I have to wonder about Captain Kalliston's final vision before he died...he mentioned that at the end, Kharn would turn against whatever sought to use him. If we apply this not just to Kharn, does it mean the Traitor Legions will eventually turn against Chaos?
Kharn will overthrow Khorne and become the new Blood God.
More likely do something that will start a chain-reaction of events leading to Khorne's demise.
If Loken doesn't get to him second time(to finish the Job)...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/07/31 23:11:17
Subject: The Thousand Sons
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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DatrhMarko wrote:Tadashi wrote:SkyD wrote:Tadashi wrote:I have to wonder about Captain Kalliston's final vision before he died...he mentioned that at the end, Kharn would turn against whatever sought to use him. If we apply this not just to Kharn, does it mean the Traitor Legions will eventually turn against Chaos?
Kharn will overthrow Khorne and become the new Blood God.
More likely do something that will start a chain-reaction of events leading to Khorne's demise.
If Loken doesn't get to him second time(to finish the Job)...
As I recall Kharn's still alive in the 41st Millennium, so...
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/31 23:36:46
Subject: The Thousand Sons
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Tadashi wrote:DatrhMarko wrote:Tadashi wrote:SkyD wrote:Tadashi wrote:I have to wonder about Captain Kalliston's final vision before he died...he mentioned that at the end, Kharn would turn against whatever sought to use him. If we apply this not just to Kharn, does it mean the Traitor Legions will eventually turn against Chaos?
Kharn will overthrow Khorne and become the new Blood God.
More likely do something that will start a chain-reaction of events leading to Khorne's demise.
If Loken doesn't get to him second time(to finish the Job)...
As I recall Kharn's still alive in the 41st Millennium, so...
Kidding ofc,but maybe Loken is also:-)Who knows!?Grey Knight Garviel Loken right !?
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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