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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
They're perhaps closer to the character packs than the two big campaign expansions admittedly.

You're absolutely right! They're very close to the character packs of old. Well, very close except for the price.

I love the Warcry stuff. LOVE it. It's nice to see GW pulling off very differently flavoured Chaos models these days, after they got into a bit of a rut with very same-y Khorne and Nurgle designs for both 40k and Fantsy/AoS vor ages. Stuff that I like, mind you, but a group of red armoured guys and gals (and dwarfs) with fish bowl helmets and tenderisers are much more exciting then even more Blood Warriors with different spikes and axes...and they're the weaker faction compared to the lovely fur fans!

The faction symbols alone are so intriguing that my mind is wondering what'll be shown for them. The tanky/gladiatoral faction for example has a gate or steel fence looking symbol, so they're tough guys that both defend *and* break fortifications? Their blunt weapons tie into that very well, smash them doors! So what'll the snake faction turn out to be? Snake (beast)men? Dragon tamers? Chaos ninjas?!

The only complaints (besides price, maybe, and that IT IS NOT OUT ALREADY) I can think about would be:

1) Maybe weak campaign mode, sadly GW is not as good at this right now, probably because they don't have the same "just convert your dudes with tripple power fists if you can afford them" mentality of old

2) Only Chaos teams.

For 1) there'll be house rules by some clever guys I bet and for 2), well, I can see stuff like Stormcast strike teams and witch hunter retinues in the future, send to stop the Chaos worshippers from reaching the Varanspire or Orks drawn there to have a scrap with the toughened survivors, I mean, where better to find good opponents? Again, if GW doesn't do it and the game is fun enough, fan content will port in other races or you can simply use count-as and build your own warband.

Depending on the success of the game and the campaign system they made, they could release "Commander" and "Elite" expansions for each faction, showing your tribes ascension to glory/Chaos Warrior status/juicy mutations on the way to the top. There's a lot of stuff the sell here if they to this right!



PS: Now my HATE models have a very clear purpose outside of maybe playing the boardgame: proxies for unreleased Warcry factions. They're perfect

I REALLY want those harpies!

I also wonder if Warcry might branch out into other armies and not just chaos - however it seems that right now chaos is THE flavour for GW

I just really (naively?) hope it doesn’t follow the Necromunda release style. I want all 6 factions in the book please, don’t string out the rules across half a dozen products.

Warcry looks great at a glance, at least in terms of the models. But i'm kinda concerned they are just flooding an already saturated market with another cash grab game. And I can't see this one catching on. Especially if your only option is playing in a GW store cause you don't have normal lgs. I'm at the point where I feel like just saying GW sucks at writing rules and games. They make great models, some of the best on the market, but I don't have confidence in their newer releases having the staying power of Blood Bowl/Necromunda etc or true classics.

The more of these throw away boxed sets they do the more there is less focus and concentration on a core product. And looking back at the last few years I realized I wasted a lot of money on stuff like this (and i'm done doing so). DW overkill, played it once, boxed, it, no one ever played it. And it's sat in the closet ever since. Blackstone fortress, half a dozen people locally bought it at least, cannibalized it for 40k and never played the actual game included.

Who says it’s a throwaway? When more info comes I bet you it’s their “AoS Kill Team” with “support for years to come” (aka boxes for you to buy).

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I just really (naively?) hope it doesn’t follow the Necromunda release style. I want all 6 factions in the book please, don’t string out the rules across half a dozen products.

Well, Necromunda is held back by limited resources in the Specialist Games studio, a problem which Warcry will not have. Then again, Kill Team is also coming out piecemeal, so nickel and diming us on DLC is just a thing GW likes to do nowadays.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Who says it’s a throwaway? When more info comes I bet you it’s their “AoS Kill Team” with “support for years to come” (aka boxes for you to buy).

Could care less, there isn't even a kill team starter set on sale anymore. There isn't any good "intro deals" into that game where you save money on the initial buy in. Plus i'm seeing people complain already about their factions not being represented in warcry. If you have a group of people who goes balls deep in the game on launch then good, but for those of us who play pick up games and don't have an abundance of serious gamer friends then this particular game might not be smart purchase.

There's still one more reveal tomorrow, right?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
There's still one more reveal tomorrow, right?

Aye, one more reveal. Not seen anything for 40k itself nor for Titanicus. They'd be my bet.

Not according to that timeline that's been posted previously, no.

Reveal 1 Mon 9am local/4pm UK: Kill team Elites, Blood bowl Halflings, Kal Jerico & Scabbs

2 Tues 12 noon local/7pm UK: Blackstone Fortress Traitor Command

3 Tues 4pm local/11pm UK: Age of Sigmar Forgotten Power and AoS Munchkin

4 Tues 8pm local/Wed 3am UK: Warcry.

 Thargrim wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Who says it’s a throwaway? When more info comes I bet you it’s their “AoS Kill Team” with “support for years to come” (aka boxes for you to buy).

Could care less, there isn't even a kill team starter set on sale anymore. There isn't any good "intro deals" into that game where you save money on the initial buy in. Plus i'm seeing people complain already about their factions not being represented in warcry. If you have a group of people who goes balls deep in the game on launch then good, but for those of us who play pick up games and don't have an abundance of serious gamer friends then this particular game might not be smart purchase.

I think you missed the snark in my inverted commas. And it doesn’t appear to represent any regular factions, note a fleshing out of Chaos into tribes. But, again, extrapolating all from one video. Wait for more info.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
There's still one more reveal tomorrow, right?

Nope

WarCom article wrote:And that’s all from GAMA! Let us know what you’re most excited about on the Warhammer Age of Sigmar, Warhammer 40,000, Necromunda and Blood Bowl Facebook pages.

At least the last snippet was interesting, if overly quick. Looked like some plastic furies in there, amongst some interesting chaos thugs.

Future releases are potentially a problem, but new models in the initial box look good.

The Kill Team box not being on sale is a red herring, IMO. Now I can get the rules, the Kill Team(s) and Kill Zone of my choice and not be stuck with Skitarii and Genestealer Cultists I don't want.

Since I already have a 40k collection, all I need to buy is the rulebook and off I go.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Not according to that timeline that's been posted previously, no.

Reveal 1 Mon 9am local/4pm UK: Kill team Elites, Blood bowl Halflings, Kal Jerico & Scabbs

2 Tues 12 noon local/7pm UK: Blackstone Fortress Traitor Command

3 Tues 4pm local/11pm UK: Age of Sigmar Forgotten Power and AoS Munchkin

4 Tues 8pm local/Wed 3am UK: Warcry.

I stand corrected and can't properly read the timeline!

Despite not being a fan of the setting that warcry looks like it has some nice minis in it, I would like to give the game a go as well and it will be interesting to see if it plays anything like mordheim.

 Rayvon wrote:
Despite not being a fan of the setting that warcry looks like it has some nice minis in it, I would like to give the game a go as well and it will be interesting to see if it plays anything like mordheim.

All I saw was a bunch of up-to-date models for my Slaves to Darkness army lol

Very surprised there was nothing for 40K

dapperbandit wrote:
Very surprised there was nothing for 40K

You mean save for the big box that was put on pre-order last saturday? And don't forget Blackstone counts as 40K just like Warcry counts as AoS

I mean like, a new announcement for the core game.

That will probably be at Adepticon.....

Gama goes all week though I believe (the 11-15) but these are the days they set aside for rooms and such. Doesn’t mean they couldn’t just roll a giant statue of an Adeptus Sorority Chick out on the last morning with a display case of all the models . GW equivalent of a mic drop.

Warcry looks good- the terrain looks amazing. I hope they expand the factions beyond chaos otherwise its not really my thing. A box set of kharadron explorers though ... oh yes.. will be interested to see where they go with this - hopefully the AOS equivalent of Killteam.

Warcry looks great. The Darkoath particularly are amazing. I really hope they will be expanded into a full AOS factions, they're basically the Chaos Marauders that I have always wanted.

 Kinetochore wrote:
Anyone know anything about the World Eaters Vs Space Wolves thing?

Don't think we heard anything about one.

For the drip feed? Bit disappointing.

But as a whole? Stuff worth seeing.

Adepticon is in 15 days, so I hope to see much more then.

Got a question about the Forgotten Thingy thing. Why did a whole lot of people associate that with Sigmarines? Maybe I missed something obvious but the trailer just looked like Nagash's basement to me.

 Binabik15 wrote:
So what'll the snake faction turn out to be? Snake (beast)men? Dragon tamers? Chaos ninjas?!

Death by Snu Snu faction. Slaanesh is making a comeback this year after all.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I just really (naively?) hope it doesn’t follow the Necromunda release style. I want all 6 factions in the book please, don’t string out the rules across half a dozen products.

Well, Necromunda is held back by limited resources in the Specialist Games studio, a problem which Warcry will not have. Then again, Kill Team is also coming out piecemeal, so nickel and diming us on DLC is just a thing GW likes to do nowadays.

I'm getting way to much DLC vibe from GW these days to get excited about Warcry just yet, but if I wanted to be hopeful (and I do - I'd really like a good AoS skirmish game) I'd would want to believe that in spite of GW's iron will to make Age of Sigmar successful, it appears to me as though they don't have the same confidence in it as they have in 40k. So maybe, just maybe, we'll get a well rounded game in the core book because they don't think they can get away with the DLC model as easily in Age of Sigmar. Maybe?

Still leaves the question how good the rules in general and the campaign system in particular will be.

Nice models, though. At least that's something we needn't worry about.

Those gargoyles look lush!
Also loving the terrain especially the giant head.

 Geifer wrote:
Got a question about the Forgotten Thingy thing. Why did a whole lot of people associate that with Sigmarines? Maybe I missed something obvious but the trailer just looked like Nagash's basement to me.

Because that's what the "fans" do whenever it's something being previewed for AoS. When we saw the lightly armored figures from the initial WarCry teaser, some twerp posted a 'leak' that said it was lightly armored Stormcast and people immediately started latching onto that.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
I just really (naively?) hope it doesn’t follow the Necromunda release style. I want all 6 factions in the book please, don’t string out the rules across half a dozen products.

Well, Necromunda is held back by limited resources in the Specialist Games studio, a problem which Warcry will not have. Then again, Kill Team is also coming out piecemeal, so nickel and diming us on DLC is just a thing GW likes to do nowadays.

I'm getting way to much DLC vibe from GW these days to get excited about Warcry just yet, but if I wanted to be hopeful (and I do - I'd really like a good AoS skirmish game) I'd would want to believe that in spite of GW's iron will to make Age of Sigmar successful, it appears to me as though they don't have the same confidence in it as they have in 40k. So maybe, just maybe, we'll get a well rounded game in the core book because they don't think they can get away with the DLC model as easily in Age of Sigmar. Maybe?

Kill Team is pretty well-rounded in its core book. They're adding options with each of these books, and let's not pretend like people are really going to be put out when it lets you use models you already own.

Given that this whole WarCry thing seems to be set in a single locality(Varanspire)? I would be surprised if it isn't a testbed ala Shadow War Armageddon.

Possibly because they had to pull Abaddon forward.

Vigilus Countdown was (I assume) supposed to be Shadowspear, but when Shadowspear pics leaked a few days early, they posted the good pics on the Community Page.

And to not have the Vigilus Countdown end on nothing, they showed Abaddon instead?