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The fabric srips on the klaivex's arms are really janky.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
The fabric srips on the klaivex's arms are really janky.

Yeah they don't really flow with the model that well, good catch.

I was gonna comment on that earlier, the arm cloth does look odd to me. Look kinda bad to be honest. Hopefully the basic Incubi don't have that issue.

I believe its designed to convey recent movement. So whilst the model is clearly standing in a power-static stance right now, the frills moving is to convey that he's just swung his arms into that position. The material might also be stiffer than regular cloth (honestly if you were going to war you'd want something pretty stiff and strong rather than soft cloth considering that in 5 mins you're going to be slicing up with a demon from hell)

In terms of the aesthetic, am I the only one who thinks that the Demiklaives look a bit odd?

Not sure what it is exactly, maybe something to do with the way they're joined together? Just doesn't quite look right to me.

Or maybe its the fact that this Klaivex apparently uses his Demiklaives to store spare cricket balls.

 Overread wrote:
I believe its designed to convey recent movement. So whilst the model is clearly standing in a power-static stance right now, the frills moving is to convey that he's just swung his arms into that position. The material might also be stiffer than regular cloth (honestly if you were going to war you'd want something pretty stiff and strong rather than soft cloth considering that in 5 mins you're going to be slicing up with a demon from hell)

I do agree with you that that was probably the intention or that there is wind blowing. The problem stems more from the fact that if you are swinging a two handed weapon both frills should be moving in the same clockwise motion unless he is pushing really hard with both hands to the front. The other problem with having moving frills is that the loin cloth is very static so it kinda betrays whatever movement they were going for up top.

Otherwise I really like the model.

 Elbows wrote:
Should make Dark Eldar players happy. Still has the unattractive Dark Eldar elements. Will keep an eye on the full kit as occasionally some bits are useful for kit-swaps/bashes for the normal Eldar.

I wonder how much an Incubi or Banshee unit in plastic will cost next time.
We saw 3 Eliminators for 40 Euro, recently.
I guess a unit of 5 Incubi/Banshees will be 30 - 35 Euro.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
Should make Dark Eldar players happy. Still has the unattractive Dark Eldar elements. Will keep an eye on the full kit as occasionally some bits are useful for kit-swaps/bashes for the normal Eldar.

I wonder how much an Incubi or Banshee unit in plastic will cost next time.
We saw 3 Eliminators for 40 Euro, recently.
I guess a unit of 5 Incubi/Banshees will be 30 - 35 Euro.

40, atleast.
Considering the price of havocs.

 TheFleshIsWeak wrote:
In terms of the aesthetic, am I the only one who thinks that the Demiklaives look a bit odd?

Not sure what it is exactly, maybe something to do with the way they're joined together? Just doesn't quite look right to me.

Or maybe its the fact that this Klaivex apparently uses his Demiklaives to store spare cricket balls.

I dunno personally I am looking forward to having my incubi roleplay as my favorite star wars tm character Rey....does...does Rey have a last name? Rey Spacelady.

I hope that new starwars preview came out and someone at GW said "YES! Demiklaives are back, they're trending baby! We gotta release those incubi!"

I wanted to say that making new kit cheaper than finecast would be a very fair marketing move and even help with sales but then laughed at myself.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
Should make Dark Eldar players happy. Still has the unattractive Dark Eldar elements. Will keep an eye on the full kit as occasionally some bits are useful for kit-swaps/bashes for the normal Eldar.

I wonder how much an Incubi or Banshee unit in plastic will cost next time.
We saw 3 Eliminators for 40 Euro, recently.
I guess a unit of 5 Incubi/Banshees will be 30 - 35 Euro.

40, atleast.
Considering the price of havocs.

Oh man.
Would this be a premium price or the new standard price of 5 elite models?

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epronovost wrote:

 Shadenuat wrote:
And for Incubi, until GW confirms it's actually a female Incubi under the helmet, what's there to talk about?

Considering that Incubi is a gendered name (the female version being Succubus), I don't think there is any female Incubi or if there are, they probably are an odity. Then again, it might just be a fancy title since Dark Eldar Incubi have nothing in common with treacherous shapeshifting sex demons.

Banshee is also a gendered name.

Keep in mind that the Aspects are all facets of a male god, except for the Banshees, who are a facet he 'stole' from Morai-Heg the Crone. I always figured that the Banshee armour has exaggerated breasts because the Howling Banshees are playing a female ceremonial role, independent of whether the Eldar wearing the suit is male or female.

Banshees are an Aspect of Khaine, but base their imagery heavily on the daughters of Morai-Heg (the banshees were her daughters, not her).

They also aren't the only one to do something like this - Reapers are an Aspect of Khaine, but are heavily based on aspects that came about only after (an avatar of) Khaine absorbed a Necron shard. Also, they revere Ynead to some degree (even before it was cool - before Ynnari were a thing). But they are still an Aspect of Khaine.

Guardsman is a gendered term. But there are female Guardsmen.

Crone, Harridan, and many other Nid names are gendered terms - but those forms are genderless.

And Succubus is a gendered term. But we know there are male succubi.

Just like there are female "masters" IRL, the fact that the origin of a term is gendered doesn't mean what it's used to represent is solely that gender.

GW has already priced me out of consideration, but I do think you'll see Banshees be something absurd like 5 for $45-50....instead of 10 for $60, etc. I will be mind-blown if the Banshees are anywhere near approaching reasonable. Who doesn't enjoy paying $10 for a toughness 3, one-wound model?

Consider Dire Avengers which are $35 for five and they're rather old.

Bharring wrote:
Reapers are an Aspect of Khaine, but are heavily based on aspects that came about only after (an avatar of) Khaine absorbed a Necron shard. Also, they revere Ynead to some degree (even before it was cool - before Ynnari were a thing)

Where are these two pieces of heresy from?

Banshees and Incubi. Seem to be some random releases.
Could also be Scorpions and plastic Mandrakes, Fire Dragons and plastic Wracks.
I can hear them coming ...

 Shadenuat wrote:

Bharring wrote:
Reapers are an Aspect of Khaine, but are heavily based on aspects that came about only after (an avatar of) Khaine absorbed a Necron shard. Also, they revere Ynead to some degree (even before it was cool - before Ynnari were a thing)

Where are these two pieces of heresy from?

I've only heard of the first one but it was proper Khaine fighting the C'Tan in the War in Heaven and he defeated the Nightbringer but bits of him lodged in Khaine creating the destroyer/reaper aspect.

Yeah sadly i think we will get a primaris price for 1w t3 models... but £30 for 10 banshees? I could live with it or 5 for 22.50 like tje DA. Excited for the models, not least excited for the price tag...

 wuestenfux wrote:
plastic Wracks.
I can hear them coming ...

oh god they're RIGHT BEHIND YOU!
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Wracks-2014

 Lord Damocles wrote:
The fabric srips on the klaivex's arms are really janky.

Yeah, GW hasn't been getting organic features like cloth right since they switched to CAD sculpting. It's still better than the dynamic-yet-static Deepkin, though.

https://sun4-17.userapi.com/c851520/v851520142/1bde53/OCezT4z9jYI.jpg

it will be really annoying wait for next monday now.

 Shadenuat wrote:
https://sun4-17.userapi.com/c851520/v851520142/1bde53/OCezT4z9jYI.jpg

it will be really annoying wait for next monday now.

That is interesting i hadn't seen this yet where was that posted?

It's https://warhammerart.com/

One of the reasons I think they chose Incubi was that they are a mercenary unit; they can roll with a Kabal, a Coven or a Cult. Had they chosen a Kabal unit, people who preferred Cults or Covens would have felt shafted, etc.

Another reason is that Incubi are kind of a dark parallel to aspect warriors.

As for the look of the demikaive, I think the painter's decision to paint the "ball" parts in a non- metallic when the blade is metallic... well, lets just say it put the attention where you don't really want it. I did like the handles- this very much looks like it is meant to come apart, and both blades would be usable if it did. You could probably do a conversion and build it with dual blades.

pm713 wrote:

 Shadenuat wrote:

Bharring wrote:
Reapers are an Aspect of Khaine, but are heavily based on aspects that came about only after (an avatar of) Khaine absorbed a Necron shard. Also, they revere Ynead to some degree (even before it was cool - before Ynnari were a thing)

Where are these two pieces of heresy from?

I've only heard of the first one but it was proper Khaine fighting the C'Tan in the War in Heaven and he defeated the Nightbringer but bits of him lodged in Khaine creating the destroyer/reaper aspect.

Proper Khaine, as opposed to Corporate Khaine?

I see what people mean about the cloth, it could flow a bit more naturally. On the other hand, the cracked spirit stone details work quite nicely.

PenitentJake wrote:
One of the reasons I think they chose Incubi was that they are a mercenary unit; they can roll with a Kabal, a Coven or a Cult. Had they chosen a Kabal unit, people who preferred Cults or Covens would have felt shafted, etc.

Or, you know, they could have actually given DE multiple units.

 TheFleshIsWeak wrote:

PenitentJake wrote:
One of the reasons I think they chose Incubi was that they are a mercenary unit; they can roll with a Kabal, a Coven or a Cult. Had they chosen a Kabal unit, people who preferred Cults or Covens would have felt shafted, etc.

Or, you know, they could have actually given DE multiple units.

While it is too soon to reach the conclusion than multiple kits will be released, it is equally too soon to determine that there will be only one.

The new artwork seems to solidify the speculation that Jain Zar and Drazhar are getting new models. It would make much sense to pair both the new unit boxes with big character releases. Both sculpts are also ancient, Jain Zar's from around 1994 and Drazzy is circa 1998-00

That new Asurmen illustration looks spot on for his old model, so I'm guessing he's staying as-is, whereas Drazhar's design in the illustration is so different I would not have been able to recognize him without the caption. He looks much closer to the incubi than he traditionally did (he never matched the unit that closely, even in 3rd edition), except he seems to have a plume in his helmet.

 Dysartes wrote:

 TheFleshIsWeak wrote:

PenitentJake wrote:
One of the reasons I think they chose Incubi was that they are a mercenary unit; they can roll with a Kabal, a Coven or a Cult. Had they chosen a Kabal unit, people who preferred Cults or Covens would have felt shafted, etc.

Or, you know, they could have actually given DE multiple units.

While it is too soon to reach the conclusion than multiple kits will be released, it is equally too soon to determine that there will be only one.

Sadly GW hates us, we havent had a new unit in over 9yrs where every other faction has (not talking about reboxing, or finecast to plastic, i mean a new unit entry). DE is the only faction that hasnt gotten anything from their new release in 5th ed in 2010, they have only taken units away.

Nice to see Jain Zar depicted wielding her Triskele, maybe that's a sign the Banshees could be getting this weapon back or will it be relegated to Warhammer Legends forever?

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Nice to see Jain Zar depicted wielding her Triskele, maybe that's a sign the Banshees could be getting this weapon back or will it be relegated to Warhammer Legends forever?

No Model No Rules. Jain Zar tm has the Silent Death tm wargear tm so she gets to use an assault 3 strength user ap-3 weapon. Other models purchaseable from games workshop plc do not have that modeled wargear tm and so do not get to have that weapon option.