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 Nevelon wrote:
I had partial 2nd ed box dropped on me a little bit ago. One idea I’ve had for a while (but didn’t want to stip my active duty bolter huggers for) was to get some pillers (probably wedding cake types) and paint them up as statues lining a road, surrounding a temple, etc.

A few tumbled Greek columns adds a wonderful sense of antiquity, even in the Grim Darkness of the Far Future.

The start of September means that gaming season is closing in. I'm clearing off the painting table and refreshing my knowledge of our ongoing campaign. Kickoff probably in mid-October.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Another vid, but not from Olden Daemon, rather it’s Miniscape.

Shamfur dispray!

How do you know this!?

/Outercircle?

Related to this?

I’ve played Astrogranite Bloowbowl. I’ve played its successor. I think I played the one after that.

And. I. Just. Don’t. Get. It. At all.

I’m a clever bloke. I do a clever job in a clever career that’s lasted 11 clever years so far.

Blood Bowl? I don’t know my arse from my elbow. Try as I might, I’ve just never grasped its finer points.

For clarity this is a Me Problem. Many many many many people greatly love Blood Bowl and that’s genuinely great.

I just…..can’t. And I find that oddly frustrating!

 Nevelon wrote:
I had partial 2nd ed box dropped on me a little bit ago. One idea I’ve had for a while (but didn’t want to stip my active duty bolter huggers for) was to get some pillers (probably wedding cake types) and paint them up as statues lining a road, surrounding a temple, etc.

I had plans to use the big pile of monopose Space Crusade marines that I have sitting here as a Thousand Sons stand-in army, painting them up as statues. Never quite got to it.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Related to this?

I’ve played Astrogranite Bloowbowl. I’ve played its successor. I think I played the one after that.

And. I. Just. Don’t. Get. It. At all.

I’m a clever bloke. I do a clever job in a clever career that’s lasted 11 clever years so far.

Blood Bowl? I don’t know my arse from my elbow. Try as I might, I’ve just never grasped its finer points.

For clarity this is a Me Problem. Many many many many people greatly love Blood Bowl and that’s genuinely great.

I just…..can’t. And I find that oddly frustrating!

It's a British take on American football, which foreigners struggle to understand.

That's your answer.

Can I ask if you played BB back in the day (2nd or 3rd edition) MDG?

I played a ton of it in the early 90s and I think the rules have just stuck with me since then, helped by playing far too many hours on the computer games. The new edition is a 0.1 change on the old so have just been able to adapt (I still call 'dash' 'go for it' instead, don't think I will ever be able to change that unfortunately!)

Played the Astrogranite one.

I just can’t get my head round it, no matter how I try.

Astrogranite?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Astrogranite?

Clearly a play off of astroturf, but I've not idea what it is, either.

If you know American football, Blood Bowl makes a lot of sense, and the human team is arguably one of the best in the game because it is balanced. This is the Platonic idea of football, being able to pass and throw.

The Elves can throw, the Orks can rush, and the other factions are various parodies of what football would be like with dead people or lawn tractors used in the field of play.

Back in the day I painted up a team that I styled the Altdorf Steelers, patterned after the legendary late 1970s Pittsburgh franchise. I even had the actual numbers of the team members. It was fun, but as gaming time became more constricted (job, kids), I had to take hard look at shelf space and also decide: If I have time to play a game, what is it going to be? 40k won, Bloodbowl got sold off.

A period of financial stress due to unemployment also factored into this.

I understood Blood Bowl long before I sat down and learnt how American Football works (more similar to Australian Rugby League than I realised).

I'm just not sure what Grotsnik is referring to when he says "Astrogranite". Like... does he mean Dungeon Bowl or something? It sounds like he's talking about a variant of regular BB.

The polystyrene pitch. That edition.

I have always been rather puzzled by this initial shot of the famous 'astrogranite' Bloodbowl pitch which arrived with the second edition of the game. It doesn't look right does it? There is something different about the pitch seen here and the one we all played on for so many years thereafter.

From an online blog. Seems to be Second.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I just can’t get my head round it, no matter how I try.

Priority of actions and cumulative odds of failure - many a game is lost because a low risk action is taken and failed before an important one is attempted.

And always remember that while the mathimatical odds of rolling three skulls may be less than 1%, in your average bloodbowl game it is closer to 50% :p

Actual footage of me trying to play or understand Blood Bowl.

Not sure if this is appropriate here, but I recently took some pictures of my old school Tyranids models that I've been painted along the rest of my army. A lot of them are my original back when I was playing 2nd edition myself, that are now repainted to a better standard

I still have some more models, some of which I'm hesitant to strip and repaint them (because nostalgia of being amongst the first models I painted), but also have some that I bough to expand the army that I've yet to paint!

And whether this is for 2nd edition or 10 edition, that's a bit over 2000pts there! I think for 2nd edition that's 2000pts+ without adding the Armorcast stuff!

What I have left to (eventually) add to that:

- Hive Tyrant x2
- Lictor x1
- Carnifex x1
- Termagants x6 (3 each of Spike Rifle and Strangleweb)
- Tyranids Warrior x6 (3 ready to paint, others are in need of repair)
- Genestealers x20 (not practical now, but yeah I have plenty of the bugger!)

That's a beautiful sight.

That is indeed beautiful, Skywave. The Armourcast 'nids can come off as very goofy, but fit right in with this scheme.

The Armoucast models fit pretty well on the large oval bases. I might think about finally basing mine having seen that.

A.T. wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I just can’t get my head round it, no matter how I try.

Priority of actions and cumulative odds of failure - many a game is lost because a low risk action is taken and failed before an important one is attempted.

And always remember that while the mathimatical odds of rolling three skulls may be less than 1%, in your average bloodbowl game it is closer to 50% :p

Yes, and here some knowledge of American football is helpful because their plays are designed that way. Before the QB can throw or the running back take the handoff, the wideouts need to be in position, the linemen need to open a hole, etc.

It is very much the Xs and Os moving across a board, and if you get that, the quirks of Bloodbowl don't impede it's enjoyment.

One of the cool things about it is that it is I think the only GW game where basic humans are one of the most competitive choices.

Just bagged a copy of Warhammer Battle Bestiary for a mere £5.

Very much looking forward to receiving and reading it.

Played our first game of original Necromunda with my newly finished Goliath gang vs a Shadow War Armageddon Eldar kill team. First time with 2nd Edition style rules and we had a blast. We're going to try a similar game using a set of Citadel Journal Necromunda Eldar rules next to compare and then think about some kind of campaign setup with NM and 40k/Shadow War killteams together.

 Prometheum5 wrote:


Played our first game of original Necromunda with my newly finished Goliath gang vs a Shadow War Armageddon Eldar kill team. First time with 2nd Edition style rules and we had a blast. We're going to try a similar game using a set of Citadel Journal Necromunda Eldar rules next to compare and then think about some kind of campaign setup with NM and 40k/Shadow War killteams together.

That right there is 100% pure awesome! I love the card terrain. I collected some of it, "loaned" it to a friend who assumed it was a gift and gave it away.

Guard it with your life!

Card Necro terrain is loads of fun:

I figured H would have an incredible setup! I've been having so much fun trying out layouts, I managed to get a double set of the basic set terrain and it's one of the best toys I've ever gotten. Definitely made it a bit too dense for that one game, with a lot of double-layered walkways that were hard to get into but looked awesome.

I love the old Necro terrain. Still have a bunch of the old cardboard stuff packed away downstairs, but I also made myself some more solid versions...

I'm going to recreate the card Necro stuff using the Sector Mechanicus terrain. Emperor knows I have enough spare to do a couple of sets, including bridges!

 Prometheum5 wrote:
I figured H would have an incredible setup! I've been having so much fun trying out layouts, I managed to get a double set of the basic set terrain and it's one of the best toys I've ever gotten. Definitely made it a bit too dense for that one game, with a lot of double-layered walkways that were hard to get into but looked awesome.

I have 5 sets of Necromunda terrain, and 2 sets of the Outlander terrain.

I can tell you that 5 sets was one too many. Yes, it's nice to have the extra bridges, but the 5th set was an indulgence that I didn't need (it was 20 years ago, and eBay 'Buy it Now' wasn't really a thing). Wish I had an extra set or two of the Outlander terrain though. That stuff is great.

Good lord. I'd love to get maybe 1 more regular set and another full Outlanders set, but that's a lot. I do want the option to make some taller centerpiece buildings, or have multiple watchtowers.

Two sets gives you a good table.

Three sets means you can add some varying height to the buildings, rather than just the same 3- and 2-story buildings you're used to.

Four sets lets you really do what you want as far as height, as height variation is very important otherwise you end up with a game that all takes place on the ground, or all takes place on the dominant level, and nowhere else.

Five is too much for one table.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Five is too much for one table.

Nonsense! You can always go higher!

4' x 4' x 4', sounds reasonable

You don't play Necromunda on a board.. you play it in a cube