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 notprop wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Pft, transport?

That's when you model the Datasmith onto one of his charges--Master Blaster style!

Call me old skool but I prefer Baby Carrier style!

That's what the refractor shield is for.

Oh you heretical son of a rusty pipe ill get you.

migooo wrote:

 notprop wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Pft, transport?

That's when you model the Datasmith onto one of his charges--Master Blaster style!

Call me old skool but I prefer Baby Carrier style!

That's what the refractor shield is for.

Oh you heretical son of a rusty pipe ill get you.

I'll just leave this here then.

The big robo is still too rounded for my taste

But man 4 robo st 10 power fists on the charge.

double that if programed properly? Oh boy

 notprop wrote:

migooo wrote:

 notprop wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Pft, transport?

That's when you model the Datasmith onto one of his charges--Master Blaster style!

Call me old skool but I prefer Baby Carrier style!

That's what the refractor shield is for.

Oh you heretical son of a rusty pipe ill get you.

I'll just leave this here then.

Yeah I thought as much.... robots at dawn then?

 Desubot wrote:
The big robo is still too rounded for my taste

But man 4 robo st 10 power fists on the charge.

double that if programed properly? Oh boy

It's the attack caracteristic which is doubled , So 2x2 + 1 (2 CC weapons) +1 assault = only 6 attacks :^p

6 s10 attacks per robot is still something to be VERY afraid of!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Not sure how I feel about a Tech-Priest that doesn't have an Omnissian Axe and a Servo-Arm. A power fist just feels weird...

After listening to the scene in "Skitarius" that takes place in the Fabricator-General's throne room, I have lost all preconceived notions of what tech-priests can look like. That book is inspiring to say the least!

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
6 s10 attacks per robot is still something to be VERY afraid of!

So I'm thinking a unit of 6x Kastelan Robots with Heavy Phospher Blasters replacing the Power Fists and carapace mounts.

Fire up the Protector protocols, and you are putting out an obscene amount of shots a turn.

I like my Castellax for looks of the model, it is way more costly then then the Castellax which has BS4 +1W for 85 points a model. Weapons wise we are way better equipped Mauler Bolter, Darkfire Bolter, Multi-melta. but we dont have data smiths to fallow the robots, we only have our HQ units.

Now here is the thing in the rules from the BRB no unit can join Monstrous creature i think even like a squad like this because it is preset so no Death-stars on this unit, only Invs will be a pain

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 warboss wrote:
So now that this stuff is out, can you fess up and say whether you knew it was in the pipeline via your FFG work? I'd assume given your interests that you'd be keen to pick up on those types of hints/details.

Technically it's not out yet, as no official channel has shown off the minis.

But to answer your question, no, I didn't know about any of this stuff. I wish I had (not that I could've told any one!), but sadly I did not.

Ok, thanks. I figured I'd ask given your requests form them for so many years. I thought/hoped you'd have been chomping at the bit for months to squeal in glee.

Bounce back a shot from a wraithknight, Roll a 6 to wound, laugh

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
6 s10 attacks per robot is still something to be VERY afraid of!

So I'm thinking a unit of 6x Kastelan Robots with Heavy Phospher Blasters replacing the Power Fists and carapace mounts.

Fire up the Protector protocols, and you are putting out an obscene amount of shots a turn.

Yes but it's about 1000 points. Those little bots are not cheap...

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
6 s10 attacks per robot is still something to be VERY afraid of!

Sure whenever they get around to punching something. It'll take them awhile to get there.

I'm thinking the shooty version might be better

 pazuzu wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
6 s10 attacks per robot is still something to be VERY afraid of!

So I'm thinking a unit of 6x Kastelan Robots with Heavy Phospher Blasters replacing the Power Fists and carapace mounts.

Fire up the Protector protocols, and you are putting out an obscene amount of shots a turn.

Yes but it's about 1000 points. Those little bots are not cheap...

960 for 6 Kastelan Robots and 3 Datasmiths, with all the trimmings.

I wonder the reason we have this stuff so early is because of the bank holiday here.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
6 s10 attacks per robot is still something to be VERY afraid of!

So I'm thinking a unit of 6x Kastelan Robots with Heavy Phospher Blasters replacing the Power Fists and carapace mounts.

Fire up the Protector protocols, and you are putting out an obscene amount of shots a turn.

That was my initial idea, too: Shooty robots as an alternative to Phosphor Onagers but, heck, their melee power is impressive as well. I know that getting the most of their assault protocols is going to be tricky at best, but I feel my army needs a powerful melee unit and, since I'm still not sold on Infiltrators and Ruststakers, I think the robots might fit the bill.

What reminds me that we still know nothing of the Kataphrons. According to rumor there's an assault variant coming as well, and guesstimating from appearances I think we can expect good mobility paired with terminator-like mobility from them. Maybe those are the choppy mechanicus unit I'm hoping for.

Even as shooty robots, their melee power is still impressive with S6 and 2A(4A with the Conqueror Protocols).

Especially if you go with 6 of them!

I got a feeling I'm going to be picking up a few Dust Tactic vehicles and walkers to proxy in for these adeptus mechanicus walkers.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Even as shooty robots, their melee power is still impressive with S6 and 2A(4A with the Conqueror Protocols).

Especially if you go with 6 of them!

Well, and as MCs their attacks are all AP2, so they're excellent at anti-elite/anti-Terminator, etc, as-is, while being far more effective at shooting.

It seems to me that Shooty is far and away their best build, especially if you're running them with Skitarii who have Haywire for days anyway. Hell, even their Datasmith has a free Haywire attack. Anti-tank/vehicle won't be a problem for these guys, so might as well build in as much anti-Eldar cheese as possible.

Ok, sold on these guys, great MEQ killers

Much better option for the Phosphor than the Onager

Will keep my onagers as icarus or neutron platforms

Icarus + Neutron Onagers are still quite good. I've been having good luck using a unit of three, one Icarus, two Neutron in my TAC lists. There will definitely be a place for them.

I think these new robots are best thought of a Dakkafexes, pre-Tyrannocyte for Tyranids. They'll slowly plod up table, and along the way their shooting will do a credible amount of work, and then once/if they do make it to Assault, they will continue to have intrinsic value, or do an amazing job tying things up.

I will admit, I am still thrown by the lack of transport across both Ad-Mech mini books. I'm loving everything I see, but all that Haywire, all those slow-powerfist platforms, etc... are just begging for Pods or something all their own.

I don't know guys, 290 points seems like a lot to me. Then again I'm used to play Guard, where everything is pretty cheap. It will depend on what this whole "Canticles of the Omnissiah" thing ends up being. If its similar to Doctrina Imperatives then they'll be worth it.

Otherwise I'm kinda like "or I could take some leman russes instead?"

Again, its a matter of perspective. Compare their price to a Carnifex, which is a solid, work-horse of Tyranids given the right support, and these guys come out favorably.

Weighing in on the new options:

Magos - Looking like a good sculpt. I'd like to see a Myrmidon Lord HQ option for a real CC/Shooting beast but we'll have to see what comes of the wargear.
I'd really like the flexibility of the 30k Mechanicum HQ choices and an Abeyant, but I feel we're likely to get something meh.

Electro-Priests - Look awesome if a little impractical without an assault transport.

Kataphron - Looking as good as tracked combat servitors can get, I suppose. Not sold on their Plasma weaponry however, would have loved Grav, or even Volkite (which would never happen).

Robots - These and the Dunecrawler are the dud releases for me, aesthetically. Cybernetica chaperone is freaking cool though. Rules-wise, they're pretty much better than Castellax in every way,
although the existence of Web-way portal Wraithguard make them somewhat uncompetitive on the tabletop. At 120 points a pop as well they're really overpriced.

I wish Forgeworld would release rules for Mechanicum in 40k.

These new robots are an excellent value compared to the Tyranid Monstrous Creatures. Compared to a Carnifex, they have better toughness, Str 10, better shooting (for cheaper), a 5+ Invlun, and access to Feel No Pain.

So this is the first release for Cult Mechanicus?? It's an interesting choice certainly.

Gives you robots and a cool Character guy though as others have said I'm not sold on the power fist.

But it's fine if I can have a different options. If not that's the only restrictive thing so far on "leaders"

I kind of like that the robots are unexpected. I don't like "bigger moat cooler" trends in models, but I do like new ideas. They look like a homage to early mechanicus work bots perhaps.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Even as shooty robots, their melee power is still impressive with S6 and 2A(4A with the Conqueror Protocols).

Especially if you go with 6 of them!

Well, and as MCs their attacks are all AP2, so they're excellent at anti-elite/anti-Terminator, etc, as-is, while being far more effective at shooting.

Dur, you are right, I complete forgot about that.

It seems to me that Shooty is far and away their best build, especially if you're running them with Skitarii who have Haywire for days anyway. Hell, even their Datasmith has a free Haywire attack. Anti-tank/vehicle won't be a problem for these guys, so might as well build in as much anti-Eldar cheese as possible.

Yup, agreed. Shooty robots is the way to go...

Yea what the skitarii was missing was high volume, high str and low ap shooting

These guys fit the bill

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

Super Newb wrote:
Oh cool! Hard for me to read though. Does the robot only have a 3+ save?

3+, a 5++ and FNP.

Together with Toughness 7.

Yes, I like them, like them a lot

and a bunch of 2+ save characters to tank wounds

AP2 shots? Fine Ill LOS them back
AP3 shots? Take them on the 2+ save