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It's honestly disgusting how the executives went from claiming that there was no source material for the sequels to blatantly ripping off the EU but with replacing the characters with their own OCs.

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That….that’s been going on since Rebels?

Ship designs, characters. Unsure on specific plot points as I didn’t read much beyond Heir to the Empire, and that was a long long time ago.

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It was all the way back when Savage got introduced in Clone Wars with the Nightsisters arc and Clone Commandos getting a cameo.
   
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Clone Wars was pre-Disney. Indeed Disney cancelled it much to my chagrin.

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Mandalorian:

Since when can the elite battle droids move that fast?!

Kind of bummed the cause was what it was. I was hoping for a droid rights thing instead of the heck yeah we love being slaves thing.


jumping back a bit here, but watching it agian, i would argue it could be less a "happiness in slavery" thing and more a case of just....not wanting to die. the bartender makes clear that most of the droids were looking at deactivation and effective death before being reprogrammed for the planetary labour force. working shifting boxes is at least a living, and they clearly have some form of actual down time (given the existence of the robot bar in the first place), so its honestly not the worst deal they could have. it makes sense they are worried about being replaced and are willing to help prevent that.

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It also helps set the scene that whatever is happening, it’s deliberate sabotage, not a flaw in the reprogramming, laziness, incompetence etc.

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Bad Batch to get a third, and final, season.


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Good. With a specific end date in mind they can actually work towards a goal rather than have another train wreck like this last season.
   
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 Easy E wrote:
All of those sound terrible to me.

The only Star Wars movie that interested me was the Rogue Squadron that they teased, and have now dumped.


That is a shame, yeah. Hopefully they eventually do a series with it or something, because it would be awesome.
   
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Seems Rogue Squadron is still in development, but may turn out to be a series yet.

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Didn't a movie about some flyboy just make big bucks and win an Oscar? Seems strange that Disney wouldn't want that but in Star Wars.

 Gert wrote:
Good. With a specific end date in mind they can actually work towards a goal rather than have another train wreck like this last season.


But what will that goal be? Retiring on a tropical island or getting dead (except for Omega)?

Normally you'd expect "it's Disney" as an answer to that, but Rex is pretty active for the time being and eventually he'll have to get retired and positioned for Rebels. Would be neat if his group and the Bad Batch just got crushed and gave up any attempts to fight the Empire for the time being.

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Visions series 2, airing 4 May.

Looks interesting.

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 Geifer wrote:
But what will that goal be? Retiring on a tropical island or getting dead (except for Omega)?

Normally you'd expect "it's Disney" as an answer to that, but Rex is pretty active for the time being and eventually he'll have to get retired and positioned for Rebels. Would be neat if his group and the Bad Batch just got crushed and gave up any attempts to fight the Empire for the time being.

Honestly, I don't know or really care all that much. All I know is that it needs to end before it gets any worse.

One of the visions shorts looks a lot like Aardman.

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 Gert wrote:
Good. With a specific end date in mind they can actually work towards a goal rather than have another train wreck like this last season.


Rare are the shows that remain good passed the fourth or fifth season anyway. I was surprised the Bad Batch didn't set itself up for closure at 2 seasons and the fact season two was basically excellent Crosshair/Rex episodes and very mediocre Bad Batch episodes hammers on the fact it probably should have been setup for a two season run instead of three. It does gives hope the third season will have to have a more cohesive plan with fewer "adventure of the week" episodes. The Clone Wars formula of story design doesn't really adapt well to the Bad Batch type of adventures I would say. To an adult audience it also has the massive disadvantage of comparing to Andor as a "life under the Empire" type of franchise and for younger audience, it would have to compare to Rebels. These two series are pretty much the most critically acclaimed series in Star Wars.
   
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Visions series 2, airing 4 May.

Looks interesting.


Getting way more adventurous with the animation styles in that one it looks like.

They had me at the Wallace and Gromet puddy episode tho XD

   
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The first one was pretty exclusively Japanese animation studios. This one is grabbing top studios worldwide.
   
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 LordofHats wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:



Visions series 2, airing 4 May.

Looks interesting.


Getting way more adventurous with the animation styles in that one it looks like.

They had me at the Wallace and Gromet puddy episode tho XD


Indeed that's going to be quite interesting. The first Visions season was rather good too come to think of it some episodes like "the Duel", "The Elder", "The Village Bride" and "The Ninth Jedi" were particular standouts to me; almost wished for a sequel for all of these.

I do love the greater variety in animation and writing style for the next season.
   
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I really thought the first season was going to put me off, as traditionally I don’t enjoy anime style stuff.

But I loved it. All of it. And the Ghibli Grogu short.

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Also. A thought on Dave Filoni’s unifying movie.

Nadiri Starhawks. In pitched battle.

Or I riot.

On me own if I must.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also. A thought on Dave Filoni’s unifying movie.

Nadiri Starhawks. In pitched battle.

Or I riot.

On me own if I must.


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Mando Chapter 23

Yes sir I like it!

Spoiler:
So now Grogu has a mech. Suspect it’ll be divisive, but like it.

Super Commandos! Big fights! Paz Viszla has fallen!

Halfway expect The Armourer to return to orbit, and find the fleet under attack already.

Season finale next week

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It's nice to get to the point where they're running out of season and things start to happen. Good episode.

Spoiler:
It wouldn't be me if I didn't start with the elephant in the room:

Moff Big Head: Behold my new and improved Not-So-Dark Troopers, now with trace amounts of beskar protecting the right ankle from blaster fire from the rear provided it comes in at a precise 41.7° angle and it's a cloudy Tuesday afternoon. Are you impressed Mandalorians?

*lone Mandalorian goes on to massacre a whole platoon by himself*

Moff Big Head: Whatever. The important thing is that I look cool in it.

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 Geifer wrote:
 AduroT wrote:
Doesn’t really matter in the end. The only defenses that do are plot armor.


Star Wars armor in a nutshell.


That said, it's fun to watch and has a couple of interesting things. And I don't mean obvious Imperial spy lady being revealed as an Imperial spy.

I actually appreciate that it's flat out said on screen that the Imperials didn't just go home after Endor. I mean we knew, of course, but it's nice to hear it acknowledged like that.

If my memory of things that happened a quarter of a century ago isn't wrong, they're inverting Dark Trooper development compared to Dark Forces. We got all droid phase three troopers in season two and now the improved troopers are fleshy phase one guys (presumably). I think phase two was troopers with cybernetic enhancements. I wonder if we'll also see that down the line.

The fight with the red guys was nice. I guess they do know more than to just stand around.

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And even if the shows go by different titles, I enjoy seeing a cohesive story through Mando, Book of Boba and soon Ahsoka.

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Mando:

Spoiler:

So now we know why they had the failed IG side quest. I wonder if it will be used for anything other than breaking up the one fight. I suspect it’ll get trashed in the finale.

Return to orbit under attack? I expected them to clear the clouds and find the fleet outright destroyed already. Everything being fine when they returned was actually rather anti-climactic to me.

My understanding was the dudes in white weren’t the new Dark Troopers, rather Moff was claiming they themself was the new improved version, as they stated it being themself inside the armor, while their suit was so much fancier and had the Cylon eye on their chest.

The armor Did help the Imperials and Mandos alike. I clocked multiple times people on both sides got shot without going down. The Imperials were stated to be wearing Beskar alloy, which I imagine is intended to mean a “watered down” mass produced version which isn’t As good as the hand crafted stuff the Mandos wear (though I wonder who makes the blue guys’ stuff which appears far more uniform in appearance as well). I’m going to assume Paz gets to stand up to more because with their sheer size and strength they get to wear heavier/thicker armor.

A little disappointed it was the Moff. They had been quite completely defeated so it’s a bummer to see them right back and in an even stronger position than before. I did like the secret Imperial counsel though, and the set up for why Thrawn isn’t around right now. Do we know if the next season of Mando will be out before or after the Mando-verse movie with Thrawn?

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Spoiler:
Boba Fett's armour has the Red LED chasers in the breastplate armour, too. Always has.

Ahsoka S1 comes out in August, Mando S5 isn't expected until late 2024 or 2025 (Andor S2 comes out in 2024).

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Oh, how much of the privateer’s budget went into the truly insane amount of paint and work hours that would be required to paint the Mandolorian crest a size to fill up the bottom of that light cruiser?

 
   
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 AduroT wrote:
(though I wonder who makes the blue guys’ stuff which appears far more uniform in appearance as well)


Aren't they originally House Kryze troops/loyalists that survived the purge? I figure there's a rule that you have to look the part and they're still wearing stuff from back in the day, whereas the cultists get their look from individual clans they come from or as foundlings wear something that relates to whoever found or sponsored them.

 AduroT wrote:
Oh, how much of the privateer’s budget went into the truly insane amount of paint and work hours that would be required to paint the Mandolorian crest a size to fill up the bottom of that light cruiser?


Perk of being a merc, huh? Sneak into your contract that your employer's army of droids give your cruiser a new paintjob while you sit back, relax and sip on your blue milk.

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Thoughts

Spoiler:
The Big Fight I found to be superb. As soon as the Mandalorians figured out the enemy were wearing Beskar, we see a change in strategy and targetting. Going for the weak points, showing a solid understanding of their own armour’s weaknesses and exploiting that.

By comparison, the Imperials just didn’t come across as incompetent as such, just not having real practice against a foe like the Mandalorians. Indeed we see at least some successes, but not as good as the Mandos when it comes to knowing where to aim, and indeed how to evade that sort of stuff.

Very excited for next weeks finale. Given Gideon mentioned clones, and we saw what I presume were clones in tanks? Who’s the donor? Could they be Feets? Djarin? Someone else? Could they be folded into the new Mandalore when Gideon is inevitably defeated?


Also also

Spoiler:
I reckon we’ll see New Republic support next episode. Constable Sensible of course found Moff Gideon’s transport shuttle, then….nada on that front. Not a chance is he going to just shrug his shoulders and pootle off

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It's interesting that they are both doing a wait for Thrawn and Hux is doing a project Necromancer (Palpatine and the First Order with whatever Kylo Rens master was called).


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 AduroT wrote:
Oh, how much of the privateer’s budget went into the truly insane amount of paint and work hours that would be required to paint the Mandolorian crest a size to fill up the bottom of that light cruiser?


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In the nicest way possible, I hope to god this is it. We're pretty clearly set up and ready for Ahsoka now so I'd like to think Mando is done until they do that movie I really wish wasn't going to be a thing.
There's nothing left to do but follow Grogu on becoming a Jedi/Mandolorian and I really don't want to sit through a season of that.
   
 
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