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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/29 11:23:29
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons List
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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So Iv got a decent collection of daemons at the moment, I can field a 2000pt Mono Tzeentch or Nurgle army, but I have somewhat neglected Khorne (I have 1 bloodletter completed).
To remedy this I shall build a 1500pt all Khorne force for a comp in August.
The List for now:
Herald of Khorne on Chariot x4
- All with Blessing of the blood god, Fury of Khorne and Unholy Might
Total: 460pts
Bloodcrushers (4) 160pts
Bloodcrushers (3) 120pts
Bloodcrushers (3) 120pts
Bloodletters (10) x4 640pts
Grand total 1500pts
Yeah I havent gone for wounds allocation shenanigans with the crushers, cant spare the pts mainly.
I can see armoured lists being a pain, all I have for anti-tank is str7 rending chariots...and thats pretty much it.
Ideally the 4 chariots and 2 units of crushers will land in the first wave scaring peoples pants off.
The bloodletters will follow, taking objectives/mopping up, taking heads and so on.
Basically, if this was a list you were using (keep in mind its a Khorne themed army) what would you change if anything?
Or on the flip side if you were fighting this and the 1st wave came down, what would you kill first? How would you combat these guys?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/02/13 10:12:56
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 00:45:33
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Screaming Shining Spear
Australia
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I would have had 2 units of 20 bloodletters, just because 10 man units get mown down so easily
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Alaitoc eldar 1250 points
Space marines 2250 points
Bad moons 1500 points
Cadian and catachan 500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 00:49:11
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Thats true, but then your limited in taking objectives.
At 1500pts I feel you pretty much need 4 troops.
I played a comp a month or so back, also 1500pts (Dark Eldar) and I had 3 troops, it just wasnt enough.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/30 00:50:27
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 00:51:29
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Screaming Shining Spear
Australia
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Ok, from that point of view I can understand, though I have to sya having 4 herald's of khorne may be a bit to much, if you have one, I would put a soul grinder in for anti-tank
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Alaitoc eldar 1250 points
Space marines 2250 points
Bad moons 1500 points
Cadian and catachan 500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 01:04:17
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Yeah I have a Soulgrinder.
The downside for a soulgrinder is it will be the only armour on the board, all anti armour hits them first in my experience and they die fast.
1 shot kills a Soulgrinder, you need at least 4 to kill the chariot.
4 Chariots is a bit overkill, I was originally going to take maybe 2 with some Princes, but the chariots do the same job as a Prince while being cheaper in pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 01:06:08
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Screaming Shining Spear
Australia
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You have a good point there. It's just having a third of your points spent on hq is not the best thing in a 1500 point game
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Alaitoc eldar 1250 points
Space marines 2250 points
Bad moons 1500 points
Cadian and catachan 500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 01:22:36
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Normally I wouldnt spend that much on hq slots, but the amount of dmg these guys will put out I think is worth it.
I could chop out 2 chariots and that would be enough for about 14 more bloodletters, but out of the 2 choices I think the chariots would be more of a threat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 01:46:16
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Screaming Shining Spear
Australia
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To be honest, the only herald on a chariot Iv'e seen before is skulltaker, but you may be right. As you said, they are your best anti-tank
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Alaitoc eldar 1250 points
Space marines 2250 points
Bad moons 1500 points
Cadian and catachan 500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 03:14:04
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Iv made up 2 Tzeentch chariots and they perform rather well, chariots in general are good choice for daemons, I think you just dont see them much because they havent actually got a model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 06:45:11
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Screaming Shining Spear
Australia
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Conversions discourage so many people when they sohuld encourage them. Though they will probably bring the model out by the end of the year
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Alaitoc eldar 1250 points
Space marines 2250 points
Bad moons 1500 points
Cadian and catachan 500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 13:31:46
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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They might bring out some chariots.
Im thinking I will probably be dissapointed with what they release though, mainly because of how dissapointed I was in the Tzeentch Herald on disc.
Personally I cant wait to start building the chariots, I have started assembling a small horde of bits to get started.
Will most likely post a thread soon of how I go about making them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 07:50:50
Subject: Re:The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Iv finally finished painting the 20 Bloodletters I have at the moment.
I'll just have to add some blood to them sometime soon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 08:41:25
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Screaming Shining Spear
Australia
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Like the skulls on the base. The details so far are looking awesome.
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Alaitoc eldar 1250 points
Space marines 2250 points
Bad moons 1500 points
Cadian and catachan 500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 08:51:27
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Xeriapt wrote:Yeah I have a Soulgrinder.
The downside for a soulgrinder is it will be the only armour on the board, all anti armour hits them first in my experience and they die fast.
1 shot kills a Soulgrinder, you need at least 4 to kill the chariot.
4 Chariots is a bit overkill, I was originally going to take maybe 2 with some Princes, but the chariots do the same job as a Prince while being cheaper in pts.
I'd still recommend a prince or other MC. You do get 2d6 for armor pen with a monstrous creature. Your heralds will have to depend on a rending which is very unreliable. Also, move through cover as a MC has it's uses too including a smaller DS footprint since a chariot base is much bigger
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+ Thought of the day + Not even in death does duty end.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 10:07:54
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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The only problem is that if I take a Prince, for it to be roughly equal to a Herald I need to get Blessing, Iron Hide, Mark of Khorne and Unholy Might, this makes the DP 155pts compared to the Herald which is 115pts.
Even if I leave of Marke of Khorne and Blessing the DP is 130pts.
With the army being pretty much devoid of upgrades there isnt really room to swap out chariots for DP's.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 20:10:45
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons List
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Biggest problem is you are slow as hell. Think deathwing without bullets slow. BCs aren't beasts so they don't help. While one SG is terribad, two is viable. Drop 2 chariots for a BT just for the mobility. Drop a 3 man unit of BCs for hounds. With your list it's a case of the slow fat guy trying to catch the quick squirmy kid. You'd kill them if they would just stay still for a sec
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/14 00:25:35
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons List
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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The plan to combat movement issues is to deepstrike in the It is indeed a slow list, thats where I plan to use DS to box people in where possible.
Iv used a similar tactic with a Mono-Nurgle list and it works to some degree.
Pretty much superfast armies or mech armies will be a pain for this list.
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If I do take a BT the list would probably be:
Bloodthirster
-Unholy Might
total: 270pts
Herald of Khorne on Chariot x2
- All with Blessing of the blood god, Fury of Khorne and Unholy Might
Total: 460pts
Bloodcrushers (3) 120pts
Bloodcrushers (3) 120pts
Bloodcrushers (3) 120pts
Bloodletters (10) x4 640pts
Grand total 1500pts
I wouldnt take hounds, just because for their pts they arent killy enough, sure they can tag units and stop them running but thats all.
The only issue I would have going to a BT instead of 2 Heralds is that you now have 4 wounds to take off the board instead of 8, I know that if my DE list faced this army the BT would be dead in one turn as it is a top priority.
The reason for the multiple units of a similar nature is to make target priority hard to decide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/14 12:28:44
Subject: Re:The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons List
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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I wish mech wasn't so popular lately in my area. Everyone is in a transport and or having wall O'tanks roll'n despite my best efforts to catch'em ridin' dirty.
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+ Thought of the day + Not even in death does duty end.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/14 13:40:11
Subject: The Brass Horde 1500pts all Khorne Daemons List
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Yeah, metal boxes driving around the field gets pretty boring.
Out of all my armies only my DE are mech and thats just cause I like the sky pirate theme, besides their vehicles are made of cardboard lol.
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