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I've read in a few places that the Emperor made a deal with chaos when creating the primarks, is there any information on this?

Thanks

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Primarch#.TysIcMU298E

Btw, Primark is a clothing company.

Primarch is what you're after.

Iranna.

Nothing in that link about the emperor making a pact with chaos.

Joey wrote:Nothing in that link about the emperor making a pact with chaos.

No there isn't.

Allowing him to draw the conclusion that no, the Emperor did not.

Iranna.

Iranna wrote:

Joey wrote:Nothing in that link about the emperor making a pact with chaos.

No there isn't.

Allowing him to draw the conclusion that no, the Emperor did not.

Iranna.

Nicely done.

It is hinted towards in the HH novels that he gained some of the knowledge necessary to create the Primarch's from Chaos, but there is no conclusive evidence.

I say no. No proof.

Thaanos wrote:It is hinted towards in the HH novels that he gained some of the knowledge necessary to create the Primarch's from Chaos, but there is no conclusive evidence.

That's what i'm referring too.

All of the hints come from Chaos itself though, so salt shoukd be taken!

Don't trust chaos.

When Corax was granted access ( in Deliverance Lost / HH / BL novel ) to data and material from the Space marine project, the storage and the Labs clearly were a place of science, not warp magic.
The ground the Primarchs and Legions are based upon, is gene-tech.

There are a few hints given by characters. The fact that those characters are daemons makes people not trust them for some reason...

Durza wrote:There are a few hints given by characters. The fact that those characters are daemons makes people not trust them for some reason...

they've bought into the imperial propaganda

The Emperor is in fact a missing chaos god.

1hadhq wrote:Don't trust chaos.

When Corax was granted access ( in Deliverance Lost / HH / BL novel ) to data and material from the Space marine project, the storage and the Labs clearly were a place of science, not warp magic.
The ground the Primarchs and Legions are based upon, is gene-tech.

Ahh, but where did he get this knowledge? And the Chaos Gods don't always lie, especially when to tell the truth would further their own causes...

1hadhq wrote:Don't trust chaos.

When Corax was granted access ( in Deliverance Lost / HH / BL novel ) to data and material from the Space marine project, the storage and the Labs clearly were a place of science, not warp magic.
The ground the Primarchs and Legions are based upon, is gene-tech.

Yeah, but that might not have been all the information, and could have been more focused on the physical aspects of the primarchs. Consider the description of energy released upon Manus' death, or the very nature of Magnus. There is evidence that the primarchs aren't 100% developed from only real space elements.

It was enough to create marines, the knowledge needed for primarchs may have been to much. Corax didn't receive a manual and had just
apothecarys and magos biologis to work on this project. I agree, the information granted access to wasn't intended as a complete scheme to create everything. Still, the efforts show the limits of the space marines aren't where we see them now, with the original template it was possible to create the astartes faster and less restricted than the process the chapters use in M40, even superior to the process used by legions since it was a main goal of this project to replenish the numbers of the RG in extremely short time.
Considering the new specification of a space marine legion, up to 100.000 ready for battle to fight in a 200 year crusade, the process used by the Emperor could be different from the options legions had. A fast paced start to get the legions fieldable is imaginable IMO.

The Primarchs however, were a single "production run".
The astartes the small simplified copies of their "fathers". Astartes had some traits but weren't perfect copies.
This may allow to have more than science involved, but maybe the warp isn't so untouchable by science?
We had the pariah gene for example. Something artificially created and interacting with the warp.
There is no need to include the warp in the process of creating Primarchs.