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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 14:14:28
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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On the one hand, that sound like we'll get tied over with various get-you-by pdfs until summer, on the other at least they acknowledge that these factions exist at all and voiced intent to support them. That they're working on full lists is great, and having a roadmap will calm a lot of anxiety among the players and hopefully quiet the 'It's a dead game'-criers.
So cautious optimism? I can live with that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 14:15:47
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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So militia then daemons then supplements?
Do we really need supplements? Automatically Appended Next Post:
Correction: Diys as oldschool as it gets.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2023/03/14 14:16:52
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 14:17:03
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I love the way Daemon armies work in HH. I really wish more of that open-ended nature was present in the 40K book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 14:19:04
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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Am I the only one who noticed the part where they mentioned the future addition of Cultists and Daemon Engines?
It's looking more and more like HH is the place for any Traitor Astartes player of discerning taste.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 14:21:50
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Gadzilla666 wrote: Am I the only one who noticed the part where they mentioned the future addition of Cultists and Daemon Engines?
It's looking more and more like HH is the place for any Traitor Astartes player of discerning taste.
Agreed. It's like all the options they ripped out of 40K landed in HH.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 14:25:18
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Scottywan82 wrote: Gadzilla666 wrote: Am I the only one who noticed the part where they mentioned the future addition of Cultists and Daemon Engines?
It's looking more and more like HH is the place for any Traitor Astartes player of discerning taste.
Agreed. It's like all the options they ripped out of 40K landed in HH.
If they really want to expand HH to its own game they'll run out of marine stuff to do eventually*, having Mechanicum/Imperial Army/Demons etc. is pretty much a necessity. I'm all for it, it doesn't really matter to me if it says HH or 40k on the tin, more variety is always good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 14:26:29
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Imperial militia list was designed to use existing guard kits in HH in the first place. IF GW was going to make plastic HH guard, they would probably do Solar Auxila anyways. But that is probably down the priority list from Astartes, Custodes, and Mechanicum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 14:32:31
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Regular Dakkanaut
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MajorWesJanson wrote:
Imperial militia list was designed to use existing guard kits in HH in the first place. IF GW was going to make plastic HH guard, they would probably do Solar Auxila anyways. But that is probably down the priority list from Astartes, Custodes, and Mechanicum.
Fair point, I was basing myself on the fact that the old Crusade Imperialis list included both Solar Auxilia and Imperialis Militia.
If they are now splitting them up in separate lists/pdf, we might see plastic Solar Auxilia... once.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 14:37:06
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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Fun times.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 14:46:39
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Tsagualsa wrote:
If they really want to expand HH to its own game they'll run out of marine stuff to do eventually*
But before that we need the updated Blackshield army list and the updated = no differences in size like now, models in all HH armor marks possible, for the joy of conversions (and tons of money for GW).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 14:58:16
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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I have an honest question. Why are 30k demons different from 40k demons?
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 15:03:57
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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AFAIK the 30k demons are a rarity in that they have a lot of 'true undivided' demons, as the chaos gods pooled their efforts for some time to beat the emperor over the head with it. Thus there are dudes like these demon brutes, a lot of demon princes and 'greater undivided demons' bordering on minor gods like Madail. Under normal 40k conditions, you would not see such a sustained effort of all the ruinous powers combined.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 15:04:25
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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IIRC it's because the HH is the first time many of them are seen in real space, and they're still largely an unknown element.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 15:26:14
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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They also don't have 10'000 years of cristalisation from their followers yet aswell...
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 15:33:30
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Posts with Authority
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They look heaps better for one. I can barely stand the sight of most 40K Chaos stuff and would never consider collecting a 40K Chaos army, 30K daemons OTOH I could well see getting into. They actually look intimidating compared to the flanderized dross 40K offers
Just my opinion of course
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 21:03:44
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Very nice. Now the Esoterists aren't dead weight!
I'm curious about the Imperial Militia stuff. Basically just seems like Astra Militarum, take that range of models, and translate them over to 30k. Not really sure what to think of that, but we'll see how they handle it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/14 22:04:45
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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drbored wrote:Very nice. Now the Esoterists aren't dead weight!
I'm curious about the Imperial Militia stuff. Basically just seems like Astra Militarum, take that range of models, and translate them over to 30k. Not really sure what to think of that, but we'll see how they handle it.
They are likely to suffer from some of the core problems auxillia do, namely weakness of blasts and vehicles in 2nd edition.
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Do you play 30k? It'd be a lot cooler if you did. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/16 14:00:54
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2023/03/16 14:01:09
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/16 14:05:05
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Might we see such a torso for Custodes to use on the plastic Contemptor kit?
I know they have their own dedicated dread kits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/16 14:13:01
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Preparing the Invasion of Terra
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At least most of these don't look really bad on their own.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/16 14:27:39
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Fixture of Dakka
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Souleater wrote:Might we see such a torso for Custodes to use on the plastic Contemptor kit?
I know they have their own dedicated dread kits.
Hopefully Custodes will get a plasticization of some of their kits like the vehicles and dreadnoughts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/16 14:27:42
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Posts with Authority
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They're alright but kind of bland? IMO the first batch of these looked better. At least the BA one isn't terribly blingy..
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/16 14:37:24
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Terrifying Doombull
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So glad they didn't drag this out like the hats and shoulders.
I have questions about some loyalties in the pictures, however.
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Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/16 14:42:23
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I wonder didn’t they group the traitors and loyalist together in the pics?
Honestly I may get the word bearer chasis, though the full model was much better. I’ll have to paint or scratch in the runes on the plastic models limbs, whereas the resin model had them precarved
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/16 14:49:27
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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They really should show these things on a Contemptor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/16 15:27:40
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Foxy Wildborne
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So this is the most non-articley Thursday since the box release, innit? All it's showing is the Contemptor chests that have existed for years that we already knew were getting repackaged into the unrelease of the arms and legs.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 10:15:54
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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£25 for the contemptor chests. Ludicrous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 10:26:40
Subject: Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Using Object Source Lighting
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HH chests is just for onlyfans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 10:28:18
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I guess that confirms that got rid of the chest options that the Dark Angel Contemptor had for no reason.
I think that robed figure was the better of the two options, but it was neat to have the option to differentiate the models in case you bought two and I think it was something they could have easily kept.
Also, the SoH and EC contemptor dreadnoughts are open in the back, so you can see the pilot's helmet. Why is that a thing? So the marine can swivel inside to look behind him? The plastic ones don't have an opening, and it doesn't look like it's something every FW contemptor has either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/03/17 11:12:37
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy / 30K news and rumours
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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GaroRobe wrote:
Also, the SoH and EC contemptor dreadnoughts are open in the back, so you can see the pilot's helmet. Why is that a thing? So the marine can swivel inside to look behind him? The plastic ones don't have an opening, and it doesn't look like it's something every FW contemptor has either.
I don't see where they are open in the back?
If you mean this image here that isn't the back but the top
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