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On the one hand, that sound like we'll get tied over with various get-you-by pdfs until summer, on the other at least they acknowledge that these factions exist at all and voiced intent to support them. That they're working on full lists is great, and having a roadmap will calm a lot of anxiety among the players and hopefully quiet the 'It's a dead game'-criers.

So cautious optimism? I can live with that.

So militia then daemons then supplements?
Do we really need supplements?


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Old-Four-Arms wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The Blooded? Who are the Blooded?

The Traitor Guard Kill Team

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-PL/kill-team-blooded-2022

EDIT : I'm just reading "no new miniatures" for Imperialis Militia tbh..

Correction: Diys as oldschool as it gets.

I love the way Daemon armies work in HH. I really wish more of that open-ended nature was present in the 40K book.

Am I the only one who noticed the part where they mentioned the future addition of Cultists and Daemon Engines?

It's looking more and more like HH is the place for any Traitor Astartes player of discerning taste.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Am I the only one who noticed the part where they mentioned the future addition of Cultists and Daemon Engines?

It's looking more and more like HH is the place for any Traitor Astartes player of discerning taste.

Agreed. It's like all the options they ripped out of 40K landed in HH.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Am I the only one who noticed the part where they mentioned the future addition of Cultists and Daemon Engines?

It's looking more and more like HH is the place for any Traitor Astartes player of discerning taste.

Agreed. It's like all the options they ripped out of 40K landed in HH.

If they really want to expand HH to its own game they'll run out of marine stuff to do eventually*, having Mechanicum/Imperial Army/Demons etc. is pretty much a necessity. I'm all for it, it doesn't really matter to me if it says HH or 40k on the tin, more variety is always good.

*

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The Blooded? Who are the Blooded?

The Traitor Guard Kill Team

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-PL/kill-team-blooded-2022

EDIT : I'm just reading "no new miniatures" for Imperialis Militia tbh..

Imperial militia list was designed to use existing guard kits in HH in the first place. IF GW was going to make plastic HH guard, they would probably do Solar Auxila anyways. But that is probably down the priority list from Astartes, Custodes, and Mechanicum.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The Blooded? Who are the Blooded?

The Traitor Guard Kill Team

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-PL/kill-team-blooded-2022

EDIT : I'm just reading "no new miniatures" for Imperialis Militia tbh..

Imperial militia list was designed to use existing guard kits in HH in the first place. IF GW was going to make plastic HH guard, they would probably do Solar Auxila anyways. But that is probably down the priority list from Astartes, Custodes, and Mechanicum.

Fair point, I was basing myself on the fact that the old Crusade Imperialis list included both Solar Auxilia and Imperialis Militia.

If they are now splitting them up in separate lists/pdf, we might see plastic Solar Auxilia... once.

Fun times.

Tsagualsa wrote:


If they really want to expand HH to its own game they'll run out of marine stuff to do eventually*

But before that we need the updated Blackshield army list and the updated = no differences in size like now, models in all HH armor marks possible, for the joy of conversions (and tons of money for GW).

I have an honest question. Why are 30k demons different from 40k demons?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I have an honest question. Why are 30k demons different from 40k demons?

AFAIK the 30k demons are a rarity in that they have a lot of 'true undivided' demons, as the chaos gods pooled their efforts for some time to beat the emperor over the head with it. Thus there are dudes like these demon brutes, a lot of demon princes and 'greater undivided demons' bordering on minor gods like Madail. Under normal 40k conditions, you would not see such a sustained effort of all the ruinous powers combined.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I have an honest question. Why are 30k demons different from 40k demons?

IIRC it's because the HH is the first time many of them are seen in real space, and they're still largely an unknown element.

They also don't have 10'000 years of cristalisation from their followers yet aswell...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I have an honest question. Why are 30k demons different from 40k demons?

They look heaps better for one. I can barely stand the sight of most 40K Chaos stuff and would never consider collecting a 40K Chaos army, 30K daemons OTOH I could well see getting into. They actually look intimidating compared to the flanderized dross 40K offers

Just my opinion of course

Very nice. Now the Esoterists aren't dead weight!

I'm curious about the Imperial Militia stuff. Basically just seems like Astra Militarum, take that range of models, and translate them over to 30k. Not really sure what to think of that, but we'll see how they handle it.

drbored wrote:
Very nice. Now the Esoterists aren't dead weight!

I'm curious about the Imperial Militia stuff. Basically just seems like Astra Militarum, take that range of models, and translate them over to 30k. Not really sure what to think of that, but we'll see how they handle it.

They are likely to suffer from some of the core problems auxillia do, namely weakness of blasts and vehicles in 2nd edition.

More dread bodies on this Heresy Thursday.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/16/heresy-thursday-fly-your-legion-colours-with-12-more-contemptor-dreadnought-upgrade-packs/

Might we see such a torso for Custodes to use on the plastic Contemptor kit?

I know they have their own dedicated dread kits.

At least most of these don't look really bad on their own.

 Souleater wrote:
Might we see such a torso for Custodes to use on the plastic Contemptor kit?

I know they have their own dedicated dread kits.

Hopefully Custodes will get a plasticization of some of their kits like the vehicles and dreadnoughts.

They're alright but kind of bland? IMO the first batch of these looked better. At least the BA one isn't terribly blingy..

So glad they didn't drag this out like the hats and shoulders.

I have questions about some loyalties in the pictures, however.

I wonder didn’t they group the traitors and loyalist together in the pics?

Honestly I may get the word bearer chasis, though the full model was much better. I’ll have to paint or scratch in the runes on the plastic models limbs, whereas the resin model had them precarved

They really should show these things on a Contemptor.

So this is the most non-articley Thursday since the box release, innit? All it's showing is the Contemptor chests that have existed for years that we already knew were getting repackaged into the unrelease of the arms and legs.

£25 for the contemptor chests. Ludicrous.

 ImAGeek wrote:
£25 for the contemptor chests. Ludicrous.

HH chests is just for onlyfans.

I guess that confirms that got rid of the chest options that the Dark Angel Contemptor had for no reason.



I think that robed figure was the better of the two options, but it was neat to have the option to differentiate the models in case you bought two and I think it was something they could have easily kept.


Also, the SoH and EC contemptor dreadnoughts are open in the back, so you can see the pilot's helmet. Why is that a thing? So the marine can swivel inside to look behind him? The plastic ones don't have an opening, and it doesn't look like it's something every FW contemptor has either.

 GaroRobe wrote:

Also, the SoH and EC contemptor dreadnoughts are open in the back, so you can see the pilot's helmet. Why is that a thing? So the marine can swivel inside to look behind him? The plastic ones don't have an opening, and it doesn't look like it's something every FW contemptor has either.

I don't see where they are open in the back?


If you mean this image here that isn't the back but the top