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Mah nemm be da Waggog Uggrod an I be da leader o da Bad Boyz Klan.
In diz hea tread, I be takkin bout mah Klan.
I ain got no boyz o nuttin in mah Klan fo nao, bu dat is temprary. Diz is juz a army fo fun and all dat good sh*t. Ai will be postin da list o da boyz from mah hood dat I will be 'cruitin shawtly.

Translation

My name is Waggog Uggrod and I'm the leader of the Bad Boyz Klan.
In this thread, I'll be talking about my Klan
I don't have anything in my Klan yet, but that's temporary. This is just an army for fun and all that good sh*t. I'll be posting a list of my ideal ork army that I may collect slowly (at the same time as my other 3 armies, especially my Space Marines).

DA LIST

DA SMARTUNZ (105 points)
Warboss Waggog Uggrod (datz me!)
-klaw, cybork, 'eavy, kombi-skorcha

DA SMARTUNZ (110 points)
Warboss Wakko Uggrod (datz my bro!)
-mega, cybork

DA TOUGHUNZ (265 points)
15 Kommandoz
-Snikrot, 2 burnaz

DA TOUGHUNZx2 (220 points)
15 Kommandoz
-2 burnaz, Nob with klaw

DA BOYZx2 (650 points)
10 Meganobz
-10 Kombi-Skorchaz
-Battlewagon, killkannon, armor platez, four rokkit launchaz

DA BOYZ (350 points)
30 'Ard Boyz
-3 big shootaz, nob with klaw

DA BOYZx3 (220 points)
30 Boyz
-slugga/choppaz, nob with klaw and 'eavy

DA FASTUNZx3 (275 points)
20 Stormboyz
-Nob with klaw

DA EAVYUNZx3 (150)
3 Kanz
-3 skorchaz, 3 plates

TOTAL
4485 points

What do you guys think? As usual, open to suggestions. Thanks for the consolidation idea Brother Taurinus, how's this?
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Translation:
Smartunz: HQ
Boyz: Troop
Toughunz: Elite
Fastunz: Fast Attack
'Eavyunz: Heavy Support
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Based on basic force organization chart.

Most Valuable Orks (MVO's) (Get a Nob named after you )
Rampage
Brother Taurinus
Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim

Doesn't taking Mad Dok Grotsnik allow you to give Cybork to any model in the army for 5pts? If so, your Warboss should only cost 100pts as instead of paying 10pts for Cybork you are now only paying 5.

Hmm. Let me check.

Thank you, sir

+1 toof


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Indeed, thank you sir.

Wot I fink 'bout dis 'ere Waaagh! is dat it be lackin some propa dakka. Yuh needz some oddboyz wif dem big deffgunz tuh make it crystal to yer enemy dat dey cant escape da waaagh! in dere liddle flyin wagonz.

-Big Mek Morkfang

Translation

What I think about this army is that it may be lacking in ranged fire support. It would be beneficial to locate some Lootas in order to counter light armor, like transports and skimmers.

Dis here luks like a big waagh of orkz! A green horde (green iz bezt) to krump some umiez gud!

Uze needz more uv dis here dakka, dealt out by dem oddboy loota-gitz. In adishun, addign some of dem Stormboyz and doz kommando gitz ser makes for a fun time at da krumpin houz.

(I like the size of the hordey waaagh, but it is lackign in rangeed-support. Added note of liking to your kommandoes adn stormboys (you always need some boot-camp wary boys on the field!)

Is this the dream list, or do you and friends play with small apoc sized lists

It's been said and is correct: You need more shooting.

Ai be happy wif de rezponsez, fank all you. I be addin two of da squadz a lootaz, i dint even fink bout dem.

Thanks for all the responses. I'll add two squads of lootas instead of the Kommandos, I didn't even consider them.

Or should I only replace one squad? I quite love Kommandoz.


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How about Burna Boyz or Tank Bustaz? I'm thinking Tank Bustaz cause I'm afraid of taking on a mech army..

15 Kommandoz

15 Tank Bustaz

15 Lootaz

¿Esta bien?

What do you guys think?


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I be finking, da killa kanz or da deff dredz?


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Hey guys,

I been readin bout da Klanz, an I like da Deff Skullz and da Goffz da most. Maybe I gon make mah own Klan, but how do I do dat? Fanx boyz

Um.... its effective except instead of 180 boyz you could stick with the ard boyz without shootas orks are better in close combat than shooting

An with the warboss you could give him a huge choppa with an attack squig cybork amour and 'evy amour for onlt 100pts in my army a slow warboss is a dead warboss

there is no rules for own clans, just give it a good name and your off

maybe gutwrenchas horde' O dakka

Um.... its effective except instead of 180 boyz you could stick with the ard boyz without shootas orks are better in close combat than shooting with those extra points laying around you have a unit of 10 nobs a painboy a waghh banner 2 big choppas mabey a klaw


An with the warboss you could give him a huge choppa with an attack squig cybork amour and 'evy amour for onlt 100pts in my army a slow warboss is a dead warboss

orklord wrote:Um.... its effective except instead of 180 boyz you could stick with the ard boyz without shootas orks are better in close combat than shooting with those extra points laying around you have a unit of 10 nobs a painboy a waghh banner 2 big choppas mabey a klaw

I wouldn't disregard all shooting just because in general Orks are better at CC. Look at lootas for example, they give the Orks a good ranged threat meaning that your opponent can't just move away from your boyz and shoot at them. 180 boyz is actually what makes this list effective for the mostpart and this means that it doesn't really make sense to swap them in for ardboyz, for a number of reasons. 1. There is so much in the game that can cancel out 4+ armour saves they're not really worth taking when you're nearly doubling the points cost for each boy. The second reason is, when you're throwing 180 bodies across the board it is very difficult for your opponent to deal with that, as they simply won't have the firepower to take them all down before they reach their lines. I'm not saying this because I dislike Nobz (I really really don't dislike them, I think they're awesome ), it's just that it's better 180 boyz than some Nobz and some ard-boyz.

orklord wrote:An with the warboss you could give him a huge choppa with an attack squig cybork amour and 'evy amour for onlt 100pts in my army a slow warboss is a dead warboss

Really wouldn't recommend a Big Choppa on a Warboss, you want to be taking advantage of the potential for strength 10 with him, as well as the ability to cut open armour and beat up vehicles. If you want something that's around the strength 7 mark, you might as well give a nob a big choppa for 75pts cheaper, but only in Nobz mobs, as you want a power klaw in the boyz squads to stop them from being tied up by dreadnoughts etc. The rest is good except mounting him in a vehicle is probably more likely to save him than 'eavy armour, as he can't be targetted while he's inside and it allows you to get into CC more quickly.

Hmm. . . . Warboss Waagog, I see two mistakes here. One, you can't put both Shoota and Slugga/Choppa Boyz in same mobz. Codex sayz "The entire mob may replace their Sluggas and Choppas for shootas". Second, where be your Big Mek with KFF?

Rampage wrote:

orklord wrote:Um.... its effective except instead of 180 boyz you could stick with the ard boyz without shootas orks are better in close combat than shooting with those extra points laying around you have a unit of 10 nobs a painboy a waghh banner 2 big choppas mabey a klaw

I wouldn't disregard all shooting just because in general Orks are better at CC. Look at lootas for example, they give the Orks a good ranged threat meaning that your opponent can't just move away from your boyz and shoot at them. 180 boyz is actually what makes this list effective for the mostpart and this means that it doesn't really make sense to swap them in for ardboyz, for a number of reasons. 1. There is so much in the game that can cancel out 4+ armour saves they're not really worth taking when you're nearly doubling the points cost for each boy. The second reason is, when you're throwing 180 bodies across the board it is very difficult for your opponent to deal with that, as they simply won't have the firepower to take them all down before they reach their lines. I'm not saying this because I dislike Nobz (I really really don't dislike them, I think they're awesome ), it's just that it's better 180 boyz than some Nobz and some ard-boyz.

orklord wrote:An with the warboss you could give him a huge choppa with an attack squig cybork amour and 'evy amour for onlt 100pts in my army a slow warboss is a dead warboss

Really wouldn't recommend a Big Choppa on a Warboss, you want to be taking advantage of the potential for strength 10 with him, as well as the ability to cut open armour and beat up vehicles. If you want something that's around the strength 7 mark, you might as well give a nob a big choppa for 75pts cheaper, but only in Nobz mobs, as you want a power klaw in the boyz squads to stop them from being tied up by dreadnoughts etc. The rest is good except mounting him in a vehicle is probably more likely to save him than 'eavy armour, as he can't be targetted while he's inside and it allows you to get into CC more quickly.

Thanks for the responses guys, but I'd rather not replace my boyzz with ard boyz for Rampage's exact reasons. In addition, which vehicle should I equip my Warboss with? I was thinking a bike because they be da fastest wit lotsa dakka. I didn't want to have a mechanized Ork army, but I think it'd be pretty sweet for my Warboss to be like pew.

Bik Mek Grodclog Mekgrim wrote:Hmm. . . . Warboss Waagog, I see two mistakes here. One, you can't put both Shoota and Slugga/Choppa Boyz in same mobz. Codex sayz "The entire mob may replace their Sluggas and Choppas for shootas". Second, where be your Big Mek with KFF?

You're right I'll have half the mobz with slugga/choppaz and half with shootaz, thank you sir. And to your second point, no me gustan Big Meks >.> or Kustom Force Fields.

I have an idea for a theme for my horde but I'ma do some research first (and perhaps some purchasing of boyz )
I'll update once I confirm the legitimateness of my idea.


Thanks again guys, I appreciate it. Keep up the feedback

BoA.Raccoon wrote:Thanks for the responses guys, but I'd rather not replace my boyzz with ard boyz for Rampage's exact reasons. In addition, which vehicle should I equip my Warboss with? I was thinking a bike because they be da fastest wit lotsa dakka. I didn't want to have a mechanized Ork army, but I think it'd be pretty sweet for my Warboss to be like pew.

There's nothing wrong with a Warbike, although I've never tried one out personally. I always like Trukks because of their speed but you have to remember to try and hide them otherwise they'll just get wrecked very early on. Battlewagons are probably the best choice overall but if it's speed you're looking for probably go for a warbike, but then I'd also take another unit of bikes to go with him just so that we can't get shot up in the early stages of the game.

Yea, I was considering a squad of warbikes anyway. Unless I have my stormboyz follow him..

Meh, I'll add some warbikes for a little variety..

Guys! Here's my rough fluff, please lemme know the legitimacy of the idea and your thoughts/contributions;

Klan Bad Boyz

Warboss Waggog was a feral ork captured by Imperial Guardsmen on (enter planet here) along with many tribes of feral orks. Waggog then managed to break out of the prison/interment camp/whatever and in the process led all the orks out as well, explaining the various skin tones of the orks. I'm planning on using Miniwargamer Mike's ork skin painting technique that he made a video about (check it out, I love it <3). The color scheme is, therefore, orange clothing and black/white armor/metal bits.

What do ya think?

Nice Fluff, kinda like my pyromanic Big Mek who leads burna boys in battlewagon.

Don't have much time right now......

Don't mix speeds(mechanized and foot slogging), it balkanizes your army and allows the enemy to focus on you in parts. Orks work best tying the enemy up in overwhelming assaults all at once so the enemy cannot work together.

Drop the AP on all the kanz. In squadrons, stunned drops to shaken and immobilized becomes destroyed-wrecked.

Oh, an easier list format would be nice.....faster to scan...example:

Da Fastunz
20 Stormboyz
-Nob
--Power Klaw
--'eavy armor
--bosspole

280 points

Becomes:

280 - 20 Stormboyz, Nob upgrade w/PK, BP, 'EA

There, 8 lines became one. So much faster when we read through and offer critique....actually, I didn't read your army list because it's so long, just scrolled through and happened to catch the kanz. Ok....feel like an a$$ for putting it that way so I just browsed the list.

The list is pretty solid. Besides the AP, actually, I'd swap it all for rokkit kanz. Same price as what you've got right now.

I'd also swap Grotsnik for a KFF Big Mek......cheaper and WAY more efficient. BTW, why Grotsnik? I didn't see anything taking Cybork......so he's basically an expensive warboss who's a bit weaker, has rage, and gives a unit FNP.

Probably just a type-o but your boyz lists should number 30 total. That's 26 boyz, 1 nob, 3 special weapon boyz.

I would prefer to see some grotzookas on your kans along with some rokits rather than big shootas.

At this point level you will be owned without the abiltiy to pop transports from a distance IMHO


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Hard to argue with BroTaur's advice, especially on the formating.

And BTW, I am SO not trying to be or sound like a jerk, I(we?) get used to a basic streamlined format, and it works really well Sometimes I'm taking a break at work and jump on for a quick thread or two.

Alright yeah, I wasn't sure how to format the list in the first place, I'll redo that now.

I've been tweaking and retweaking the list, so I took off a few cybork armors and forgot about Grotsnik. As for the not mixing mech and horde, I concur completely, but I thought 1 squad of bikers would be nice for flanking while the rest of the green tide stormed my opponent and it would solve my Boss' issue. I'll think about all of that. I'm also going to completely redo the kanz section.

I'll tweak everything later, I have a huge debate/project (Model United Nations) tomorrow that counts as the second biggest project I'll ever do after my CAS Super Project that takes place over 10th, 11th and 12th grade. We've been getting prepped for 6 months or so, so I've gotta do the final preparations (printing my papers, etc.) Wish me luck, guys

Alright guys, well, I was thinking about it today and I think I'm going to change my play style a bit. While I still want to have loads of boyz I want to be a kommando style army with lots of close combat so I'm going to remake the list with that in mind.

EDIT: Updated it, lemme know guys. It's a sorta heavy army and at the same time kommando/klose kombat.

Also, Brother Taurinus, consolidated the list for ya

Good.

The only thing that I would say is that I'm not sure about the Kans. As they are the only things with armour values in your entire list I think I know where your opponent would be putting all of his Anti-Tank firepower.

I'd say either drop them, or add some more armour in in the form of Battlewagons as you suggested.

Good point, so I'll add in the Battle Wagons for the Meganobz.

Dammmmiittt, I forgot that dedicated transport take a slot.. Grrrrrrrrrrr :(

So the question is;

9 Kanz 0 Wagons

6 Kanz 1 Wagon

or 3 Kanz 2 Wagons..

BoA.Raccoon wrote:Dammmmiittt, I forgot that dedicated transport take a slot.. Grrrrrrrrrrr :(

Sorry, it's probably something really obvious that I've momentarily forgotten about but what slot do they take up exactly?

They take up none. They're part of the squad.

:OOOOOOOOOO
Yaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy <3
Thanks guys Updating the list nao.