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If you could have any Primarch return and have significance influence on current affairs in the 41st Millenium who would it be? And why?

The Lion. Cause' he's the only one that would make things MOAR grim dark

Guilliman, because of his administrative abilities.

jgehunter wrote:The Lion. Cause' he's the only one that would make things MOAR grim dark

Are you sure you don't mean "ROAR" grimdark?

Russ, because it is time for the Imperium to kick arse and chew bubble gum. Unfortunately, they lost the STC for bubble gum.

Lorgar. United Word Bearers on crusade would be awesome!

This is tough!

Either Sanguinius, or Dorn.

Sanguinius for the cool factor, and the fact that a good chunk of the Ecclesiarchy would probably poop a brick, and that image amuses me.

Rogal Dorn, because he could be like, "WHAT DID YOU IDJITS DO TO MY HAND! SWEET MERCIFUL CRAP!"

Or better, he'd come back with his hands, and be like " 'sup. Hey, did we ever put the phalanx on hydrolics like I wanted? ...Oh hey, who's hand?"

Guilliman, because he would know how to fight the nids (fluff wise) and change the codex accordingly.

Guilliman because he would be the only one who could penetrate the bureaucracy of the Administratum and bring progress back to humanity.

Guilliman, because he's the best politician among them - he would have what it takes to manipulate and control the myriad branches of the Imperium; not to mention that three-fifths of all Astartes are his genetic sons, he'd have the loyalty of more than half of the loyal Space Marines.

Russ, because he'd kick xenos and heretic ass!

(Although his return would symbolise the end of time, it would still be cool!)

Sanguinius, give us back our Jesus GW.
And let him take his Angels of Baal on a mighty crusade to punish all the heretics!!!

Guilliman. He may be an arse, but he'd fix things.

Horus!

I'll cheat here and say Alpharius and Omegon.

Why?

I'd love to see a narrative where half of the Alpha legion are loyal and the other half are chaos and the two sides are vying to protect/destroy the Imperium.

I think it'd make quite the compelling plot line.

Iranna.

wpago wrote:Guilliman, because he would know how to fight the nids (fluff wise) and change the codex accordingly.

Why would he know how to fight the nids? He never saw them before.

Anyway, I would probably go for Lion, I can see him taking every unforgiven chapter and hunting the fallen for a millennium before doing anything of use. Also Guiliman is an idiot.

Pertuabo. He could take Cadia's defences apart in an instant.

Durza wrote:Pertuabo. He could take Cadia's defences apart in an instant.

I am not to sure about that...

Brother Coa wrote:

Durza wrote:Pertuabo. He could take Cadia's defences apart in an instant.

I am not to sure about that...

I am, unless you have Dorn holding it.

Castiel wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Durza wrote:Pertuabo. He could take Cadia's defences apart in an instant.

I am not to sure about that...

I am, unless you have Dorn holding it.

Who needs Dorn when you have Cadians and Creed

Castiel wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Durza wrote:Pertuabo. He could take Cadia's defences apart in an instant.

I am not to sure about that...

I am, unless you have Dorn holding it.

This could go on for pages as we weigh the strengths and weaknesses of an entire planets defense forces and the abilities of a primarch ect., but let's not. Let's just compromise and say Pertuabo could take Cadia's defenses apart, but it would take two instances instead.

Anyways, the Imperium needs a Guilliman right now. They don't need an inspiring general (which Guilliman fits anyway) as much as they need someone with the ability to reorganize the empire. Someone to figure out logistics and look at the galaxy as a whole and develop an actual proactive plan to defense instead of a reactive "oh we are being attacked by Hive Fleet X or Waaagh Y, send some guardsmen". While any Primarch may be capable of this, Guilliman seems to be one of the only ones who would be satisfied sitting behind the lines and figuring this seemingly boring stuff out, without getting a blood lust and want to go out to the field and lead assaults.

Guilliman is already experienced in empire building, I think he could turn the Imperium around.

Curze, because it would be cool to have him back.

Guardsman: "Is he behind me?"

Curze: "No, I'm in front of you."

Either that or Expunged, that guy was always good for a laugh.

Ignatius wrote:

Castiel wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Durza wrote:Pertuabo. He could take Cadia's defences apart in an instant.

I am not to sure about that...

I am, unless you have Dorn holding it.

This could go on for pages as we weigh the strengths and weaknesses of an entire planets defense forces and the abilities of a primarch ect., but let's not. Let's just compromise and say Pertuabo could take Cadia's defenses apart, but it would take two instances instead.

Anyways, the Imperium needs a Guilliman right now. They don't need an inspiring general (which Guilliman fits anyway) as much as they need someone with the ability to reorganize the empire. Someone to figure out logistics and look at the galaxy as a whole and develop an actual proactive plan to defense instead of a reactive "oh we are being attacked by Hive Fleet X or Waaagh Y, send some guardsmen". While any Primarch may be capable of this, Guilliman seems to be one of the only ones who would be satisfied sitting behind the lines and figuring this seemingly boring stuff out, without getting a blood lust and want to go out to the field and lead assaults.

Guilliman is already experienced in empire building, I think he could turn the Imperium around.

So that would make the Imperium be better off, I just want MOAAAR grim dark (Without having to confess I follow Chaos) Thus I vote for the Lion

Angron. Go on lad, have another go...
Or Mortarion. Guess who he carves his initials into?

But for impact alone, Horus.
Imagine the scene, as he waltzes up to the golden throne and quotes the immortal phrase of all true sons of Chaos: "sup dad, I'm ba-ack!"

The Lion would be interesting! Will he come back and help the IoM? Did he really turn traitor and so be an enemy of IoM? You could play it so many ways.

I guess Guilliman would be best for the IoM though. He could organise them the best without causing some kind of civil war.

I would want the Lion back though.

+1 for Horus!

ROGAL DORN!

Or Fulgrim beats his possession and comes back for redemption.

Nagashek wrote:Or Fulgrim beats his possession and comes back for redemption.

Fulgrim's spent ten thousand years experiencing what a daemon of Slaanesh does for fun. Even if he has phenomenal will power, and we all know he doesn't, he's long since gone crazy.

Lorgar. A true child of Chaos.

Dorn or Russ returning may turn the tides in favor of the imperium.