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What are paint guns good for? Can you imagine an airbrush that someone didn't clean properly 200 years ago?
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
I don't remember finding any bottlecaps in toolboxes, but I just automatically collect my caps. Brain doesn't process that any more.
Paintguns are used for making Dart guns, the second best gun you can make imo (the railway rifle being the best).
Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial * Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
I've never found a dart gun. I did come across someone with a railway rifle the other day, but no dart guns. I have a stock now of spares and parts in my home.
Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial * Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!
I don't think you get them in Vegas... I don't remember ever seeing one.
Mastodon: @DrH@dice.camp
The army- ~2295 points (built).
* -=]_,=-eague Spruemeister General. * A (sprue) Hut tutorial * Dsteingass - Dr. H..You are a role model for Internet Morality! // inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all Theophony - Sprue for the spruemeister, plastic for his plastic throne! // Shasolenzabi - Toilets, more complex than folks take time to think about!
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
Sorry guys to throw of topic but I need to pick your brains, I have a paint issue and not sure what the hell to do the conundrum is as follows and open to any suggestions.
I have some Hotwheels cars that I want to detail but still keeping the original paint scheme intact, now what I want to know ( if at all possible ) is there any way of washing the original paint scheme that will adhere and not ruin it.
I only want a slight wash to slightly shadow any grooves or detail ect, however the concerns are will it run evenly and will it adhere to the original paint.
Do I need to add a varnish or clear coat first or can I go straight over the original paint work ? Also I want to weather slightly afterwards would I need to seal it after the wash or before ?
Thanks in advance guys and sorry Dave for invading your thread, but due to traffic and your own knowledge I thought this was the best chance I have.
A wash will dry completely and adhere no problem. However if you want it to oNLY go in the recesss I'd recommend a GLOSS coat. don't be afraid of gloss, you can always make it flat later. You sound more afraid than anything. WHen in doubt, paint something else to test with first. You can always paint over it too.
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
To be honest I am a bit worried I have some of the Custom classics and love the paint scheme, the thing is they are to flat for miniatures to blend naturally.
So I thought a contrasting colour wash would help lift the model without ruining the paint scheme, I was not sure if it would adhere to the paint or run evenly.
The other issue is how thin should the wash be as I don't want to alter the main body colour, then do I seal it once the wash has dried completely ?
I want to do some slight weathering but not excessive, I thought of a test but what can I test but the model itself ?
I think I need to just bite the bullet and try I guess
A wash and a glaze are two different things. a wash is for shading details, a glaze is for changing hue. I'd use a pre-mixed wash if I were you.
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
Custom Classics was the range of Hotwheels cars along with the G Machines, they scale up nicely to heroic scale miniatures so using them for my gangers and Apoc world.
They have some nice bright finishes and special paint work, this is what I don't want to ruin but add some depth to the model itself.
I did not think I mentioned Glaze if you mean when I said "how thin should the wash be" some people water there washes down to give more transparency so they can build the colour more steadily.
You didn't mention it, but you mentioned "altering body color" which is what a glaze does.
Bright paint in post-apoc?? Dirty them up!!
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
dsteingass wrote: You didn't mention it, but you mentioned "altering body color" which is what a glaze does.
Bright paint in post-apoc?? Dirty them up!!
I did a wash on another model a while ago and the colour altered slightly, albeit it was yellow base colour which with a slight brown wash turned it grimy looking all over.
Not the effect I was after however this was not the original factory paint, it had been stripped and repainted with Acrylics.
Yes, most will be weathered and altered trust me this is the main reason for the project, but I want this and a couple of others to be rather clean looking as these will belong to the new order rulers so to speak.
You always get the untarnished pieces in the Apoc films thats why they stand out, so thats why I want to keep the look of the original paint to have that nice shiny feel in a world of ruin.
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A gloss coat will ensure that the wash only goes into the recesses. The thinner the better in that case. Also, you don't have to coat the whole thing, you can just brush it into the panel lines or recesses. Type of paint is irrelevant with a gloss coat.
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
I see so my Vallejo Gloss Coat airbrushed over the original factory paint, then a thinned wash painted directly to panel lines and recesses should work fine.
Just one last thing do I seal the wash afterwards before weathering or after the weathering is done as well ?
You can seal/gloss/flat coat as many times as you want. the only thing to remember is to let the clear coats dry completely before doing anything else, otherwise your wash may literally WASH it off.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Like anything else, many light coats will always look better than a thick coat.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/11/11 01:34:37
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
Well, it'll be easier if you uncross them and get to painting!
Good Luck! -Actually luck has nothing to do with it ;D
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
The darnedest thing happened I got set to paint and all of a Sudan a small ball of fire came ..... No it did not but I have found a test piece to try it out on without my fingers crossed, your right Dave it does hinder
Bloody hell Dave, that vendor rack is amazing. I'm really drawn to small details like that, and scribing the fluting on the tin cans is just another level. That street is looking mindblowing.
1- Contest is open to anyone that wishes to join. Official start is Friday November 15th 0000 your time and official end is Friday December 13th @ 1800 EST. Your project must be completed and submitted for judging within the expressed time frame, there will be no extensions.
2- You are building a pile of junk out of junk parts. Must be a new project and you must provide me with one WIP picture that does not have paint. It is acceptable if a repurposed part on your model has paint from a previous project.
3- Piece must be appropriate for the W40K or WFB universe.
4- Must be on a base no larger than a 40K 60mm round base and no smaller than a WFB 40mm square base (exceptions- 25X50mm WFB cavalry base, 25X70mm 40K bike base, WFB 20x80mm troop base). See photo for reference:
You do NOT have to use a GW base, I’m mentioning them only for scale reference. You may build your own base from plasticard, hardboard, pre-fab from any manufacturer, whatever works for you. Just stay within the noted size limitations.
5- No WIP shots on this thread, and do not create direct links to your photos on this thread. Please post on your own thread or PM me w/ pics or link to pic location.
6- Submit your entry by sending me 1 'master copy' photo of your completed project for posting here, I will post your photo on Dec 13th. See additional photo requirements for the judging process at bottom section of rules.
CATAGORIES
Due to the overwhelming participation, I've created the following competition categories. I am requesting each contestant choose the catagory appropriate for their skill level. If the level chosen appears to be below contestant's capabilities based on examples of past wrok I will request they move to a higher catagory. If a participant is unsure of what category to join I will assign one for them.
Categories and qualifications are as follows:
Chaos Lord- Participants in this category have displayed incredible skill and have had their work recognized elsewhere, such as GW and / or other significant contests / publications / etc.
Exalted Champion- Participants in this category have not been officially recognized as above but display extraordinary skill. This is the minimum class for any Dakka contest winner.
Aspiring Champion- Participants in this category have displayed exemplary skill in their work.
Chaos Cultists- Participants in this category display noted effort in their work.
Chaos Spawn- Participants in this category are Dakka lurkers that have come forward and joined this contest. This is the only category that is not qualified by skill, so expect some distinct variety from this gibbering horde.
The purpose of the different categories is to ensure the most fair and balanced level of competition possible. If anyone feels they should be moved from their assigned category for any reason please PM me.
Scoring
Scoring will consist of 3 categories worth a maximum of 100 points overall. The categories are:
Bitz (30)- What you choose and use to build your piece
Impression (40)- Overall impression for the model as an entirety. Does the model shows scale perspective with all materials used? Were the materials varied and diverse? Does the paint and weathering compliment and define the overall build? Does the model tell a story? Does the model fit the 40K or WFB universe? Etc.
Scoring Criteria
Add points for:
No prefab, meaning a complete build of random junk bitz. Examples are crushed sewing thimbles, mechanical pen springs, soda can tabs, cassette deck components, little broken bits of plastic, etc.
Immediate +5 point Bitz bonus for anyone that sends photographic 'as it happened' evidence of picking up a piece of random junk from a parking lot, sidewalk, dumpster, etc.
Comprehensive list of parts you used
Neutral points for:
Majority non-GW prefab bitz from old models (1/35, 1/24, etc) like military vehicles, cars, trucks, etc.
Deduct points for:
Majority GW bitz
No list of parts / bitz
Base that is outside size limitations (exceptions as noted in individual requests)
Posting WIP on this thread
Poor quality / insufficient number of photos.
Judging and Winning Entries
Each category will have a 1st and 2nd place winner. There will also be a 'popular choice' vote where your vote bestows the honored title of Primarch to the overall winner. In the case of a tie in any category I will decide on the criteria to break the tie. Primarch votes accepted from Dec 13th to Dec 26th. Contest winners will be announced on Friday Dec 27th.
First place winners of each category will be awarded a personalized piece of terrain built and painted by me. Second place winners will be awarded a bag of bitz from my bitz box. Winner of the Primarch title will receive both. If Primarch title is awarded to anyone that placed 1st or 2nd in any category will receive cumulative prizes.
IMPORTANT Be sure to provide me with FOCUSED, CLEAR, and WELL-LIT pictures for judging. Minimum number of photos I am asking for is 5 but more is better and be prepared if I request more as I may need them for a tie-breaker or other decision.
If you do not have a device that can take a clean and clear photo, please consider getting assistance from a friend / family member, etc. It is not my intent to penalize anyone based on available technology or ability to use it but understand I will have to judge your piece by the pictures you provide.
CONTESTANTS
Spoiler:
Andy_T
ashotninja
Biohazard
Briancj
Camkierhi
Chelnov
cormadepanda
Desubot
dsteingass
Dr H
Galorn
Gitsplitta
GiraffeX
GrimDork
hdbbstephen
hk1x1
Hyenajoe
inmygravenimage
Llamahead
MauS
Moltar
monkeytroll
Nerdfest09
OneManNoodles
RSJake
Sanka
Scarper
scrunty
sennacherib
Snrub
Theophony
Viktor von Domm
whalemusic360
weetyskemian44
Questions / comments? Post here or PM me. if you do not see me address your question / comment here it is because I overlooked it. Please PM me if that is the case.
And remember, if you know someone that would enjoy a contest like this please let them know about what we have going on here.
Also, if you find inconsistencies in the rules, omissions from contestant listing, etc PLEASE let me know so i can make the appropriate corrections.
I'll be back.
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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
So, for no particular reason, I've had a bit of burnout with dakka for the past few months- hopefully this will get me back into it!
also,
dsteingass wrote:I'm a noob to it all, it is complex. All I know is that they blame Shrike for every eyesore upon the land
the eyesore thing is probably because my first house (first one on the dakka server *woot*) got creepered so many times in one day I just stopped repairing it and, since it was copied over to the second server, has been mysteriously creepered multiple times since. Or it may be due to the fact that the manor which I built is essentially a giant block of brick.
dsteingass wrote:LOL, I'm not sure why they blame Shrike, but apparently it's a thing to blame Shrike for everything
I can't actually remember how that started, but I think it was just the fact that I was involved in a lot of projects and generally didn't have the best luck (dying at all the worst times etc.), so people started saying "god damn it, shrike" and such for anything bad which happens
But yeah, flattered to see I'm a topic of conversation, and keep up the good work everyone
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
Glad to see ya back Shrike! The Vanilla sever is new again (2 weeks ago) btw. FTB is just too crazy and complicated for me.
I know the feeling about getting creepered. You don't get much sympathy- everyone is busy doing their own thing, although help was easier to get in FTB with the flying and all.
"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog : It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
dsteingass wrote: Glad to see ya back Shrike! The Vanilla sever is new again (2 weeks ago) btw. FTB is just too crazy and complicated for me.
I know the feeling about getting creepered. You don't get much sympathy- everyone is busy doing their own thing, although help was easier to get in FTB with the flying and all.
not tried FTB yet, when the tekkit server got taken down I just really didn't feel like learning a whole new set of stuff again
and yeah, back then people helped out because at that point there were literally about three or four us on.
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
Viktor von Domm wrote: Cooool...the lost son I never had is back! I really was worried a bit what kept you...but it feels good to have you back with the loonies again!!!
I will now partake in the proud tradition of returning to the fold:
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
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// inmygravenimage - Dr H is a model to us all 
if you mean when I said "how thin should the wash be" some people water there washes down to give more transparency so they can build the colour more steadily.
