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News from Nova. There are some very big changes coming to Forgeworld. No details yet except that the very way that forgeworld operates will change. Expect a separate announcement with details in the next few weeks.
   
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Chikout wrote:
News from Nova. There are some very big changes coming to Forgeworld. No details yet except that the very way that forgeworld operates will change. Expect a separate announcement with details in the next few weeks.


They have already changed to use the stupid gw exchange rates instead of real currency rates. So maybe making it available through retail channels, or co vetting some stuff over to plastic?
   
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No, that's not ominous at all. Really hoping that doesn't mean "discontinue all 40k lines and focus on 30k and specialist games".

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 Peregrine wrote:
No, that's not ominous at all. Really hoping that doesn't mean "discontinue all 40k lines and focus on 30k and specialist games".


Yeah I have a horrible feeling the anti FW faction won and FW is getting squatted with 30k becoming a Specialist Games thing and the Titans being left under the FW banner in name only.

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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Chikout wrote:
News from Nova. There are some very big changes coming to Forgeworld. No details yet except that the very way that forgeworld operates will change. Expect a separate announcement with details in the next few weeks.


Oh gak. This doesn’t strike me as something positive.

This is it, looks like Forgeworld as we know and love it is no more.


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 Peregrine wrote:
No, that's not ominous at all. Really hoping that doesn't mean "discontinue all 40k lines and focus on 30k and specialist games".


I think you have it. Warhammer Legends is the closest hint for this. I can imagine pretty much see all FW 40k rules being shunted into that category and then a slow discontinue of the 40k lines over time. 30k shunted to specialist games (which in of itself is no bad thing) and there we have it...

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Its got to be hard running FW at the moment as with more and more specialist games being launched there is going to be a strong impetus to pilfer staff from FW who are a known quantity to do it,

and FW get to try and recruit new staff who then take time to bed in (just in time to get pilfered for the new specialist game)

so I could see narrowing the scope of FW being a sensible option

 
   
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Rip any 40k FW faction then.

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That or it’s nothing negative. Maybe they will allow fw to be shipped to GW stores, or something like that. I don’t think they’d make an announcement about squatting or no longer writing FW rules for their biggest game, and instead just quietly do it as all new releases have no 40k rules.

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At this stage I'd welcome FW at least having a clear direction outside of specialist games. 30K seems to be doing ok for itself but also seems to have lost its fire in a massive way; plus its a major model line trying to be sold by the specialist game wing that also shot itself in the foot with international sales.

Meanwhile 40K has done ok for most armies, but there are clearly winners and losers. Marines/Imperials have loads; whilst some armies like Dark Eldar have almost nothing.

Finally Fantasy is basically dead - barring 1 dragon (That started life in the End Times) and 2 sets of alternative stormcast heads; they've done nothing for YEARS. Many of the sculpts still stand up great, but there's clearly a huge gap in the fantasy realms for FW.
There's also oddities with the rules; things like the myrewurm are not in the Idoneth as a unit yet lore and visual design really suggests it should be.


FW is in a pickle and hopefully whatever comes its a clear single direction rather than a jumbled confusing situation.



Edit - almost all the "free peoples" models are on sold-out on the FW site and the Gigantic Chaos Spawn is too. Though sometimes FW uses this when they also make a new mould so its hard to be certain, but it seems likely the free peoples stuff could be lost entirely.

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 Peregrine wrote:
"Great news! Now that your army no longer exists you will have sp much more money to buy the new space marines!"

i love my spikey ones to bits, but getting a dex 2.0 that was abused as an alpha test for C:SM 2.0 and then this makes me seriously reconsider my hobby budget.

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Hmm,

It would simplify FW a lot if they just stopped making/trying to make rules and moved over to a collectors/painters company only

especially since despite GW trying to indicate FW should be allowed in the game so many groups/stores/tournaments say no

maybe keep 30K going as that's now a 'separate' game

and it would also mean less internal pressure/issues with GW proper 'stealing' any FW design they liked/proved really popular and doing plastic & rules for it

 
   
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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

especially since despite GW trying to indicate FW should be allowed in the game so many groups/stores/tournaments say no


I sincerely hope it does turn out to be something banal or even positive, if for no other reason than they should never, ever cave in to the numpties you refer to.

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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Hmm,

It would simplify FW a lot if they just stopped making/trying to make rules and moved over to a collectors/painters company only

especially since despite GW trying to indicate FW should be allowed in the game so many groups/stores/tournaments say no

maybe keep 30K going as that's now a 'separate' game

and it would also mean less internal pressure/issues with GW proper 'stealing' any FW design they liked/proved really popular and doing plastic & rules for it


Maybe the ETC is anti people playing with their toys, but here on NA Forgeworld is doing fine and dandy.

Just because people house rule out GW rulesets (the FW books are written and updated by GW now, as seen by CA) doesn’t really have any hating on what they will do with the rules.

It might be that GW will just take over all the rules writing for non-30k, but with them having made things like the Atraues it would be foolish to think FW will be out of the 40k game.

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IIRC, FW isn't handling the 40K rules anymore anyway. They're being done by the GW studio. That's why the FW Custodes stuff got axed as a FW book and instead was released in WD. At least that's what I heard. (Edit: got ninja'ed on that one. )

It does seem like we're looking at a tighter focus for FW. The announcement might be nothing other than confirmation of what we've been seeing already, with the success and expansion of SG, and the contractions in the 30K and 40K mini lines.

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My guess is that there is an impending announcement of FW changing to support 8th edition for the finale of the HH.

   
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 warboss wrote:
My guess is that there is an impending announcement of FW changing to support 8th edition for the finale of the HH.

That sounds awful.

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 warboss wrote:
My guess is that there is an impending announcement of FW changing to support 8th edition for the finale of the HH.

That sounds awful.


Yeah they do that and they may as well shutdown FW because it would kill off HH overnight and the only people championing it I know of are 40k players who want to share the misery.

8th is a dumpster fire that replaces bein....nvm not going there again other than to say 8th is shallow and boring unless you get off on rolling 1000s of dice to achieve very little.

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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Part of the reason I think HH initially exploded was because people could use their Legion lists against their friends (even if it wasn't necessarily balanced for that, smaller games were bad for Legions while larger bad for everyone else).

Now you have to find someone else willing to play HH/the old ruleset, and it's harder to just port over now that a lot of newer players are playing Primaris marines.

HH coming to 8th would let people play with their toys more... so...

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There are pros and cons to both sides and, just to be clear, I wasn't advocating one over the other in my guess. I simply don't have enough experience (or really any beyond a tiny demo game with a single combat squad) to judge the current edition.

   
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A rules change to 30K wouldn't represent big changes to the very way that FW operates. That language suggests something bigger than some ruleset changes.


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SeanDrake wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 warboss wrote:
My guess is that there is an impending announcement of FW changing to support 8th edition for the finale of the HH.

That sounds awful.


Yeah they do that and they may as well shutdown FW because it would kill off HH overnight and the only people championing it I know of are 40k players who want to share the misery.

8th is a dumpster fire that replaces bein....nvm not going there again other than to say 8th is shallow and boring unless you get off on rolling 1000s of dice to achieve very little.


Crazyterran wrote:Part of the reason I think HH initially exploded was because people could use their Legion lists against their friends (even if it wasn't necessarily balanced for that, smaller games were bad for Legions while larger bad for everyone else).

Now you have to find someone else willing to play HH/the old ruleset, and it's harder to just port over now that a lot of newer players are playing Primaris marines.

HH coming to 8th would let people play with their toys more... so...


30k switching to 8th would finally get me to play it.

I just want them to make more cool models and support the primaris range with upgrade bodies, etc...
   
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 xttz wrote:
Comedy option: switch HH to the new Apocalypse rules. I'd play it.


Radical and probably would end up being quite popular after a period of time...
   
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 zedmeister wrote:
 xttz wrote:
Comedy option: switch HH to the new Apocalypse rules. I'd play it.


Radical and probably would end up being quite popular after a period of time...


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SeanDrake wrote:
pm713 wrote:
 warboss wrote:
My guess is that there is an impending announcement of FW changing to support 8th edition for the finale of the HH.

That sounds awful.


Yeah they do that and they may as well shutdown FW because it would kill off HH overnight and the only people championing it I know of are 40k players who want to share the misery.

8th is a dumpster fire that replaces bein....nvm not going there again other than to say 8th is shallow and boring unless you get off on rolling 1000s of dice to achieve very little.


Honestly? Sounds like every edition of 40k i’ve played.
   
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I hope it’s nothing bad for FW, but it’s way past time that it was fully rolled in so that each game is being produced coherently by one team and FW models are fully integrated like they are in LotR, and GW scraps having two different websites.

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