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**Balance**

Dissent and internal struggle is interesting.

Also, in my admittedly limited experience, it's very difficult to really get a lot of cohesion in human beings beyond relatively small groups of maybe 10 or so. I think a psych course I took may have even set that at 5 or 8...

Any larger group will have some sort of subgroups. At the bet, they're workable teams that maybe compete for glory or recognition but cooperate towards the goal, and at worse they're about to actively schism.

**Alpharius**

BrookM wrote:After reading the first book in the Pauldron trilogy I can't help but notice that each and every Chapter seems to be rife with dissent and internal struggle.

Is this all because Marines skip puberty and become super-humans or what?

Now THAT is funny!

And quite possibly, true!

**lords2001**

BrookM wrote:After reading the first book in the Pauldron trilogy I can't help but notice that each and every Chapter seems to be rife with dissent and internal struggle.

Is this all because Marines skip puberty and become super-humans or what?

Pauldron trillogy? Linkage? I can't find it.

**BrookM**

Nick Kyme's Salamander books. I thought the guys here were overreacting as always, but Nick really likes to use the word "pauldron" a lot. So much in fact that the word is now odd and foreign to me and I've dropped the novel in favour of Stieg Larsson.

**lords2001**

BrookM wrote:Nick Kyme's Salamander books. I thought the guys here were overreacting as always, but Nick really likes to use the word "pauldron" a lot. So much in fact that the word is now odd and foreign to me and I've dropped the novel in favour of Stieg Larsson.

He does. Its even lamer though that the book is such a damned hard read for the first half. The second half gets slightly easier once the battle gets flowing, but damn!

**reds8n**

..hope you all got your orders in for the ultra limited edition Iron Warrior book yesterday ?

**BrookM**

I thought about it but I'm going to settle for Space Marine instead. I find 30 quid a bit too steep for that book, even with those included extras.

**Gridge**

BrookM wrote:After reading the first book in the Pauldron trilogy I can't help but notice that each and every Chapter seems to be rife with dissent and internal struggle.

Is this all because Marines skip puberty and become super-humans or what?

That would only be the case if dissent and internal struggle were only present amongst the immature

. Marines are altered to be pure warriors and the pinnacle of human perfection so you would have to imagine that would make for some pigheaded, brash, arrogant behavior. Plus, even the primarchs were flawed.

**Lord of battles**

Gridge wrote: Plus, even the primarchs were flawed.

NOOOOOOOOOOO REALLY???
I would have never guessed!

**Flachzange**

Just finished A thousand Sons. What a brilliant read!
Next up: Soul Hunter

**BrookM**

Space Marine just came in and well..

**Alpharius**

Flachzange wrote:Just finished A thousand Sons. What a brilliant read!
Next up: Soul Hunter

It was good, but they missed out on a chance to fix the mistake to the whole Psychic/Sorcery thing that Alan "If it ain't broke, I will break it!" Merritt introduced.

Oh well!

**lords2001**

Soul Hunter - very good, but not the most brilliant thing ever written as some boards have been saying. However, Aaron D-B does have a very flowing and dark style - something seen in Cadian Blood, and further moving on here- I would like to read the First Heretic very much.

**tinfoil**

Yep, I'll concur on Soul Hunter: plot is basic BL fare, but Aaron D-B knows how to turn a phrase. He writes with authentically grim dark flair. And the whole aura of the Night Lords (decimated, riven, riding crippled battle cruisers with skeleton crews and dwindling numbers of Astartes) is vividly drawn. A solid read here by an effective storyteller. (And I don't say that about too many Black Librarians.)

**BrookM**

He's best new talent.

**lords2001**

BrookM wrote:He's best new talent.

He's certainly the quickest new talent - but I think Henry Zho (Zhu?) is just as good well - he has a different style, but it packs a heck of a lot more in as far as scene setting and general understanding go - loose threads for the larger plot, but tied together nicely by the author.

And Tinfoil - I do agree about the setting up of the Night Lords etc. I think the next book could really go places now that the general scene is set.

Oh. On his blog he sort of mentioned that he may be doing a Night Lords book for the Horus Heresy series - even after saying that he would prefer having a dwarf taking a hammer to his balls while listening to slayer over doing so.

**reds8n**

Got my signed limited edition copy of "Iron Warrior" by McNeill today..looks lovely, bit pricey but can a fanboy ever really put a value on things...

..hmm... don't answer that actually.

Review to follow soon.ish.

**lords2001**

reds8n wrote:Got my signed limited edition copy of "Iron Warrior" by McNeill today..looks lovely, bit pricey but can a fanboy ever really put a value on things...

..hmm... don't answer that actually.

Review to follow soon.ish.

Sounds good - let us know what its like.

By the by, I'm re-reading Empire by Graham McNiell at the moment. Is it just me, or do these feel really, really washed out? Like he just had to churn it out, and his hold on the backstory isn't so strong?

Because I'm really trying to see some depth here, and I'm coming up with ... well... not much.

**Kanluwen**

lords2001 wrote:Soul Hunter - very good, but not the most brilliant thing ever written as some boards have been saying. However, Aaron D-B does have a very flowing and dark style - something seen in Cadian Blood, and further moving on here- I would like to read the First Heretic very much.

Heretic! Heretic! Heretic!

I'm more excited for "Throne of Lies" than "First Heretic", to tell the truth. It's likely to be the one and only audiobook I own.

Just wish that GW would put the audiobooks up as .mp3s/.aac formats and available for purchase on iTunes or their website.

**Manchu**

Alright. I now have to buy Soul Hunter since it is apparently the apotheosis of 40k fiction. And, after devouring Cadian Blood, I can well believe it.

**Shaman**

Soul hunter rules my BL books Pyramid.

**Flachzange**

Agreed. Soul Hunter is aces!

**lords2001**

I know I'm behind the release schedule, but I'm enjoying A Thousand Sons at the moment. The beginning was rather strong, the middle... so so. I'll see how it ends.

Also have Nagash the Unbroken - I'll see how it goes.

By the way, I do like the extra length - feels and looks weightier - keep it going Black Library!

**Lord of battles**

By the way how many Black library books does dakka own?
Personaly i own over 1000 bucks in novels, codexs, white dwarfs!

**BrookM**

Space Marine is horrible. And not a good read. Not even in the "haha so bad its good" category.

**reds8n**

Don't say you weren't warned.

Still..rollerskates and shuriken weapons eh... no ? Tough audience.

That is the definitive Bolt Gun sound affects in that book for me still though.

**BrookM**

Raaaaark-pop indeed.

It does make me wonder what the target demographic was for the book back then. 13 years and younger?

**Lord of battles**

I just bought soul hunter!!!

**reds8n**

..good aint it eh ?

meanwhile....

From Gaunt's Ghosts to the Phantine Air Corp, Dan Abnett's Sabbat Worlds have thrown up a wealth of 40K heroes and villains over the years. This October we're planning to let some of our other authors loose in this brutal warzone, with a Sabbat Worlds anthology. The book will feature stories from some of our most respected authors, including Graham McNeill, Aaron Dembski-Bowden and Mr Abnett himself. The authors have all donned peaked caps in preparation and moved into Dan's spare room. (It's a bit of a squeeze, but the cramped conditions in the bunk beds are a perfect way to help them picture military life in the 41st millennium.) We've not done anything quite so drastic here in BL Towers, but we have commissioned this rather tasty cover art from Stefan Kopinksi.

**migsula**

Alpharius wrote:
As much as I like to make fun of Ultramarines (and I do!), you've go to give him some credit - Ultramar is pretty much the only place any one of us would like living in that Galaxy!