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Skaven are nocturnal, so are Eld.... oh wait lol.

Do you think you'd be able to create enough troop types though to replicate the delicate balance of elements within a Eldar force?

Thanks for the feedback people!

@Monkeytroll - I haven't been brave enough to type "Branded Runes" into google yet if thats what you mean I did spend a year as a trainee undertaker when I was younger and have a fair idea of what bloodless wounds on a corpse look like but other than that I am just winging it....Damn sorry Lennysmash I hope you have finished your breakfast!

@Weety, Whalemusic & Lennysmash - I may have to read up on Eldar, I haven't even played against them before so I have no idea how they play, but as you say WM I will keep on as I have been and see how the IG codex goes for now.

No pics tonight I am afraid, I sanded the runes from yesterday and carved a huge Grey Seer rune into his back, tomorrow when the GS is cured I will get to painting and hopefully have something for you to see.

Oh and thanks to InMyGravenImage I have made a start on a new Rat Ogryn, he will be my bone'ead and will literally be boneheaded.
I have a skull hanging around from squeek headtaker which I have made some modifications to and I have made a start to a an armature..yes thats right I will be attempting to build this guy from scratch!
Now I have no idea how it will go, but I ask you to be gentle...its my first time

Cheers

BLACKHAND

Eager to see Bonehead!! Though I really liked the concept of twinhead!

You may have said this before but I will ask anyways: what are you going to count your vermin lord as?

Daemon Prince

TiB wrote:Daemon Prince

There isn't a deamon prince in the guard codex if I recall correct

Its more of an Apocalypse model, in which you can use whatever you please. Could also count as an Eldar Avatar, a BA Furioso Dread, or any number of other things that go on 60mm bases and are around the same size and have plausible weapon load-outs. WOOT APOCALYPSE!

But I guess he could use him in friendly games and use him as a DP. Sorry for sounding like I rejected your answer TiB.


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meh, thought It was a quick reply to my other comment, sorry for messing yhis up a bit, don't know if I can remove comments either.


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meh, thought It was a quick reply to my other comment, sorry for messing this up a bit, don't know if I can remove comments either.

Thats my plan Rose_mountainz, to use him in friendlies or Apoc,

When ever I double post I just double click on my post and edit it, then delete the extra text, easy!

Holy cats Blackhand! Somehow your thread fell off of my subscription list and I've missed 5 pages!

Great work on the rat ogre... looks really nice!

That's ok Rose, I'm sorry for my answer being maybe a little short

Daemon Princes, Avatars, what Whalemusic said. Not sure I like it as a Furioso though, kinda strange for this thing to have an armour value.

edit: whoop, post 100

Lol, nice to have you back gits!

Its sure been a busy week on the thread, its pretty crazy how much pressure you feel to get models painted and posted up


@TiB - I figure a DP with the mark of nurgle for more toughness and a couple of psyker powers would fit best

Congrats on the 100th post TiB!

BH- I am seriously left in awe everytime you tackle a new project. I think the DP is the way to go. Would explain the toughness and such.

How cool is your gaming group Blackhand?

Im sure if you showed them your awesome verminlord theyd have no problems letting you use a DP in the guard army. Just some food for thought (mmm, fajitas.....)

@tony_nids - Thanks man, and yeah DP is my pland for sure

@vitruvian - I usually only play with a sub section of the guys in the club so it should be all good, I am planning on getting a game in this weekend using the Rat Ogryn, Warp Seers and Vermin Lord with my old Gurad and seeing how they go

WOW these are awesome!


what you should do next is maybe make some Grey Knight Termies or PA but rat versions!

Lol, I have like 30 unpainted Grey Knights in PA already I don't want any more!

If I was going to add grey knights for amoured infantry I would wait till I know if Inquisition troops are going to be allies after the new codex is out, I can only have so many models in an army that aren't legal

BLACKHAND wrote: I did spend a year as a trainee undertaker when I was younger.

You're a brave man, Blackhand.

There is a fine line between brave and stupid Hadouken

Haha, You're preaching to the choir, man!

BLACKHAND wrote:I figure a DP with the mark of nurgle for more toughness and a couple of psyker powers would fit best

I like it as a CSM generic Greater Deamon; it has high CC and mutates from one of your psykers in a special ritual like a rat ogre de luxe .

Got a decent amount of work done tonight, first up are the Runes on the Verminlord





The chest is a real pain to sand so its not too clean around the chest runes, but my natural laziness kicked in and I just painted over them



pretty happy with the right shoulder....



....not so happy with the left shoulder the Rune ended up a bit too far forward but again, lazy



The back came up pretty well for a more complicated pattern, now I only have to find brush small enough to paint a thin line of red along the edges of the Runes to simulate the burnt flesh.
You may have noticed I slapped a coat of midnight blue on the black areas to tie it to the shadow gray on the skin, what do you think?

The next few pics are of the beginnings of my Bone'ead scratchbuild, just the legs and waist so far,.









Pretty rough so far but as you can see I have built the legs with a much longer thigh than the IaB Rat Ogres, but they seem to be modeled along the lines of a gorilla with tiny legs and huge arms. I am going for a more balanced body shape and by lengthening the thigh I was able to get a lot more movement for the pose...at least thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

C&C welcome as always

Cheers

BLACKHAND

Looks awesome! I find that a thinned baal red wash on the edges makes for a nice colour, dunno if it would work here though

The sculptings really coming along nicely, you're getting good at this stuff!

How about adding a glow of green to the runes on the Vermin Lord? Warpstone power could be pulsing under his skin also is his limbs going to be blue/black like that? I think I have missed on how you plan to paint him

Vermin Lord looks really great Blackhand! That pale coloring is going to really jarring next to the rest of your skaven (which is a good thing). The leg sculpts are coming along nicely too! Wow. Good work.

Verminlord is looking great Blackhand.

The addition of the runes really helps to 'break up' the model, and add some more focal points. I like that you haven't gone too overboard adorning him (trinkets,etc); he is 'simple' and effective.

I know that you haven't finished the paint job, but I was thinking that maybe the runes could use some more colour, just to draw more attention to them. I like the idea of them looking red and sore, as if they have recently been carved in, but are not entirely healed, or can't heal. Nothing too overboard, as the light skin does need a dark contrast, but just to give them the look of scarring or such.

Just throwing ideas around.....

Again, awesome work; I'll be watching.

Hmm. I actually think Eldar may be the way to go with this project.

1) HQ - Psykers. You can take individual Far(grey)seers and warlock (engineers)!!!
2) Vermin lord counts as wraithlord (or an avatar)
3) Eldar guardians essentially = high initiative guardsman. Skaven essentially = high initiative humans.
4) Eldar tanks actualy float. Those floaty tanks can easilly be 'counts as' skimmers.
5) Wraithguard = Rat ogres. Ok, WG are on 25mm bases but the stats seem good enough, and they are led by a warlock (or a packmaster...)
6) Yriels Eye of Wrath (one use only, big template centred on him S:6 AP:3 used in combat instead of attacking) seems like it could easily be some volotile warpstone weapon.
7) Weapon platform. Easy way to get the skaven weapon teams into the army.
8) Swooping hawks... Tunneling team! The hawks can skyleap and re-deep strike. Could symbolise the team digging back underground and re-emerging elsewhere.
9) Dire avengers... just souped up guardians. Stormvermin with a gun.
10) Dark reapers... Jezzails
11) Fire dragons, Warp spiders, Shining spears, i can't seem to fit in
12) Banshees... Plauge censor bearers. Essentially always strike first in the first round of combat (due to noxious fumes choking the opponent) and Warcry can lower enemy WS (also due to noxious fumes choking the opponent) Another option in the scorpions, The only S: 3(4) Eldar unit (due to the flails)
13) Harlequins... Clan Eshin adepts. Fleet, ignore difficult terrain, a rather poor (5+) invun save, high initiative and hit and run all seen to fit in. The harlequins kiss could easily be fighting claws.
Theres proberly more. But i just woke up

Loving it so far BTW

Fire Dragons=Poison Wind Globadiers?
You could easily come up with some crazy warpstone and wood contraption for war walkers and wraithlords.

Doomwheels could easily be vypers or even fireprisms with a little conversion.

Though I'm pretty much on IG for now, I must admit that Dave's thorough analysis DOES make a lot of sense...

I'm especially convinced by the Grey Seer / Farseer, Warlock / Engineer, Harlequins / Eshin, Swooping Hawk / Tunneling Teams and skimmer comparisons...
Plus Skaven do share the high speed with the Eldar, as mentioned in Guardians / Clanrats!!!

Nice work on the Runes, they're rather creepy!