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Yeah, except no. There's no denying IG and SW are top tier armies. (Overpowered, maybe, maybe not, but still two armies that always perform well....) Yes; you can beat them, but it's no surprise to seeing them always competitive at tourney's.

As for DE, I hope they are the alpha strike master's. It should be their forte. - If you survive their onslaught with half your army, then, you would be doing well. At least that's how I always figured them... Swathes of early casualties, but if you put up a fight, they could just melt away into the background, waiting for another opportunity.

Yeah, they're top tier. But just what that means is exaggerated by the whining of unskilled players.

But unskilled players will always whine. They'll whine about how powerful DE are. Even if they aren't top tier like SW and IG are.

Melissia wrote:Yeah, they're top tier. But just what that means is exaggerated by the whining of unskilled players.

But unskilled players will always whine. They'll whine about how powerful DE are. Even if they aren't top tier like SW and IG are.

Just like nidz right? Doom pretty much took all of it though

Melissia wrote:But unskilled players will always whine. They'll whine about how powerful DE are. Even if they aren't top tier like SW and IG are.

Amen to that!

So, DE then, how many characters do you think they'll drop on us? The SM 'dex had eleven, so I'm thinking eight or so...?

Are nids competitive? I see them a lot, but I don't go to tournaments and such, so I wouldn't know. They don't really seem to be 'amazing', just good.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Are nids competitive? . . .They don't really seem to be 'amazing', just good.

I think that sums it up rather well.

Editing to add:
Ooops, did not mean to add to a tangent on this thread again.

Whilst I love 'nids; here isn't the right place to discuss it. - I want keep this thread rolling!

So, the DE then, how many characters do you think they'll drop on us?

I figure half a dozen characters. 4 HQ options and two upgrade characters.

Rinkydink wrote:Whilst I love 'nids; here isn't the right place to discuss it. - I want keep this thread rolling!

So, the DE then, how many characters do you think they'll drop on us?

I guess around 6... but i would not mind if they have good looking miniatures and are also usable as generic character choices.

Sounds about right to me. A very expensive special character, a wych, a haemonculus, and one other (incubi phoenix lord?), along with maybe a vehicle upgrade char, and an upgrade char for those surfer dudes.

Well, they already have several. Off the top of my head...

Vect (on his Pimpraider), Hersperax, Kruellagh, Drazhar, Headtaker(something like that) and the Haemonculus whose name escapes me right now.

I suspect we'll see new ones to boot.

Melissia wrote: and one other (incubi phoenix lord?),

I'd stab someone to ensure the appearance of Arhra.

I think that would be awesome as well. Alas, this is just wishlisting for now, so let's stop here until we hear more.

I want my character that makes incubi troops! Or at least count as scoring!

Decapitator,Drazhar, Urien Rakarth, Lelith, Kruellagh & Asdrubael. So yeah 6 atm, it will be an easy 8+ In the nex dex if the focus is on SC changing how the army attacks... weeeee~!

Shamelessly...borrowed from Warseer:



Jack

EDIT: proper credit apparently goes to 40konline.

Hmm, not sure how I feel about the head...but I'm liking the rest of it.

The pose seems a little...nonchalant almost, like hes a bouncer outside a club just lounging until something starts

Hey, take it easy there. Nice to see it..But......You're rude. Jes would be angry that something was revealed 2 days early.

MUCH better than the old ones.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Hey, take it easy there. Nice to see it..But......You're rude. Jes would be angry that something was revealed 2 days early.

Eh, I'm half a planet away from gamesday, I have trouble being too concerned (particularly when his real gripe is with the GW marketing plan not the internet). Its not as if it wasn't gonna get tossed up by somebody once it hit warseer.

Jack

Jackmojo wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Hey, take it easy there. Nice to see it..But......You're rude. Jes would be angry that something was revealed 2 days early.

Eh, I'm half a planet away from gamesday, I have trouble being too concerned (particularly when his real gripe is with the GW marketing plan not the internet). Its not as if it wasn't gonna get tossed up by somebody once it hit warseer.

Jack

I'm kidding. Thanks for the pic. I hate DE, but I might pick some up now.

And judging by the pic, someone either "borrowed" the model to take the pic, or its for an "official" leak.

(Decent quality pic with white backing paper)

I like that it actually has an Eldar feel, something that was really lost on the Generation 1 DE. However, the update has obvious carryover from G1DE as well. Primarily on the rifle. I don't think having these along side some of the old ones will detract much at all, though the sculpt is definately nice. I can feel confident about taking my time updating my DE and not having to jump whole hog into replacing every warrior I have.

The model looks hastily put together, mould line middle of the helmet, and as we all know the generic troops have the most generic poses.

Wow, not bad at all! Must say it'll look better with a bit of de-spiking (like cutting the big blade/bayonet thing off), but the proportions are good, the stance is good, and the hands/head aren't goofy. Particularly loving the faceplate. Nice work, Jes.

As for the early leak- who frigging cares.

Rinkydink wrote:
As for DE, I hope they are the alpha strike master's. It should be their forte. - If you survive their onslaught with half your army, then, you would be doing well. At least that's how I always figured them... Swathes of early casualties, but if you put up a fight, they could just melt away into the background, waiting for another opportunity.

Given how recently there were comments published in WD or on the website (can't recall where) from a member of the design team about how designing an army reliant on an "alpha strike" concept was considered to be poor game design and not fun for either player, I highly doubt DE will be an alpha strike force.

Jackmojo wrote:Shamelessly...borrowed from Warseer:



Jack

EDIT: proper credit apparently goes to 40konline.

Oh... oh my.... oh gawd....


its...


BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!

Can I salt it?.... Plllllease
Thou the bayonet looks like it rises infront of the barrel means all our guns will fire two shots right? And I like the Incubi style face plate~!

ChrisCP wrote:Can I salt it?.... Plllllease
Thou the bayonet looks like it rises infront of the barrel means all our guns will fire two shots right? And I like the Incubi style face plate~!

Shut up! No, you cannot salt it. Go die.

Yeah, that's pretty sexy. Exactly the sort of helmet I was hoping they'd go for as well.
I wonder if those shoulder pads are separate bitz?
Looks like Orks are going on the back burner for me.

It might be double barreled with the blade between them. Evil stabby space shotgun.

It actually looks evil. Not too many spikes, though the nipple spike is kind of odd. I'm not really a fan of the giant bayonet, but it looks like a glue-on accessory and not some thing molded on to it, which is good.. Jes Goodwin, how do you do it, you magnificent son of a

I agree with the comment about the bayonet. But regardless it took aspects from my 2 favorite armies (eldar, Dark eldar) and put them together into one awesoome ball!!!