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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 07:25:01
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
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endlesswaltz123 wrote: MajorWesJanson wrote:
Personally, if I'd call any older models that some people love hideous, it would be the old 1-2ed Orks, the old chaos marines, and I'm not a fan of the metal Cadians either.
Celestine, Kharn, Ahriman, Eldrad, and Grimnar have all been excellent updates of old models that make them look more dynamic and detailed without really changing the core elements that make those models iconic. Hope they do the same for Ghazkull, Calgar, Shadowsun, and Vect soon.
One thing that the plastic doesn't convey, to me anyway is weight. Khan, Grimnar and the plastic cadians in particular from your choices don't look as hefty as the metal versions. Whilst this suits some models, such as Eldrad, some models have lost something in the conversion. The old Grimnar was a great model, I dislike and don't feel the new model does the character justice, and even though new Khan is bigger and more dynamic, the presence the model carries is off compared to the the metal model, IMO anyway.
I'm not sure if you mean physical or visual heft. I prefer most of the newer sculpts over the old models, but I do feel odd holding non-metal characters. I'm not sure, but the physical weight seems to give metal something extra in my mind. Perhaps I should glue some pennies on the bottom, and try to get the best of both worlds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 07:28:26
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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The only thing I miss about the old metal walkers and vehicles is that they made good improvised weapons when put into a sock.
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 08:17:42
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Imateria wrote:Why is everybody assuming it's going to be a Wraith construct?
Because of the infinity symbol over the mystery rune. Not convinced myself yet as it also gets used in places that have nothing to do with wraith constructs, like Saim Hann's world rune.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 08:52:57
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If it's not the mini Ynnead I'll be surprised
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 09:16:53
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Colonel Cabbage wrote:endlesswaltz123 wrote: MajorWesJanson wrote:
Personally, if I'd call any older models that some people love hideous, it would be the old 1-2ed Orks, the old chaos marines, and I'm not a fan of the metal Cadians either.
Celestine, Kharn, Ahriman, Eldrad, and Grimnar have all been excellent updates of old models that make them look more dynamic and detailed without really changing the core elements that make those models iconic. Hope they do the same for Ghazkull, Calgar, Shadowsun, and Vect soon.
One thing that the plastic doesn't convey, to me anyway is weight. Khan, Grimnar and the plastic cadians in particular from your choices don't look as hefty as the metal versions. Whilst this suits some models, such as Eldrad, some models have lost something in the conversion. The old Grimnar was a great model, I dislike and don't feel the new model does the character justice, and even though new Khan is bigger and more dynamic, the presence the model carries is off compared to the the metal model, IMO anyway.
I'm not sure if you mean physical or visual heft. I prefer most of the newer sculpts over the old models, but I do feel odd holding non-metal characters. I'm not sure, but the physical weight seems to give metal something extra in my mind. Perhaps I should glue some pennies on the bottom, and try to get the best of both worlds.
Maybe it's the somatic feel of holding them that is perceiving me to view them as having more weight. Some of the more dynamic poses don't convey weight, or power that the old metal models had to me though.
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I know which model I think would actually be more likely to banish Magnus...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0001/09/08 09:39:38
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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endlesswaltz123 wrote:Colonel Cabbage wrote:endlesswaltz123 wrote: MajorWesJanson wrote:
Personally, if I'd call any older models that some people love hideous, it would be the old 1-2ed Orks, the old chaos marines, and I'm not a fan of the metal Cadians either.
Celestine, Kharn, Ahriman, Eldrad, and Grimnar have all been excellent updates of old models that make them look more dynamic and detailed without really changing the core elements that make those models iconic. Hope they do the same for Ghazkull, Calgar, Shadowsun, and Vect soon.
One thing that the plastic doesn't convey, to me anyway is weight. Khan, Grimnar and the plastic cadians in particular from your choices don't look as hefty as the metal versions. Whilst this suits some models, such as Eldrad, some models have lost something in the conversion. The old Grimnar was a great model, I dislike and don't feel the new model does the character justice, and even though new Khan is bigger and more dynamic, the presence the model carries is off compared to the the metal model, IMO anyway.
I'm not sure if you mean physical or visual heft. I prefer most of the newer sculpts over the old models, but I do feel odd holding non-metal characters. I'm not sure, but the physical weight seems to give metal something extra in my mind. Perhaps I should glue some pennies on the bottom, and try to get the best of both worlds.
Maybe it's the somatic feel of holding them that is perceiving me to view them as having more weight. Some of the more dynamic poses don't convey weight, or power that the old metal models had to me though.
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I know which model I think would actually be more likely to banish Magnus...
It's the guy on the sled......right?
RIGHT?????
Oh god I need to know
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 09:56:34
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
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Brutal Black Orc
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streetsamurai wrote:yeah, but last release was a box of three imperial SC, and going by the rumours, next two release will be a box of Eldar SC, and a box of Chaos SC. I can live with it if it's only temporary, but with the return of the primarch looming, I fear that it will be the trend for 8th edition as well.
The thingis that there are no rumors of an Eldar and Chaos Triumvirate. This is just wild speculation that has gone rampant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 10:27:21
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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In the face of oblivion, hope will be reborn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 10:28:34
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Avatar of Ynnead incoming!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 10:31:10
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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A long day of F5 ahead...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 10:49:29
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Rob and Eddie on the Twitch stream have said it'll appear on facebook and the WarCom site at around 6pm GMT
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 11:01:13
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ah, cool, saved me a day of impatience - thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 11:05:27
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
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Fixture of Dakka
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It won't be the mini Ynnead, it'll be the mini Ydeserve.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 11:29:04
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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A lightened version of the picture. You can make out a face a some spikey looking armour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 11:29:06
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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That sounds like a very optimistic tag-line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 11:51:22
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
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Brutal Black Orc
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You fool, it will be the mini Ypaid.
Jokes aside, I highly doubt Ynnead is comming back. Would be a nice surprise, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 12:03:05
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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"In the face of oblivion, hope will be reborn" - Ynnead is the hope of the Eldar, the Eldar used to be reborn after going in to the warp
You have the rune with the death symbol. Ynnead is the God of the dead
Deathmasque had Ynnead zooming off into the galaxy
All the clues have been pointing to Ynnead. I'll feel so catfished if it's not, ha.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 12:32:48
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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In before the new characters can be taken in any armies of the Imperium. After all, thebEldar did say at the end of the last book they want to make nice... :p
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 12:51:06
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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The rune, exept for the infinity symbol, is represented in the Eldar codex as belonging to some specific striking scorpions shrines. (current printed codex page 73).
Considering the fluff and the suspicious dark eldar elements we have recently made out of the blurry pics, Im guessing its maybe Arhra returning.
Yet, I cant shake the feeling of "something cool" beeing a bad pun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 13:08:22
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Fayric wrote:Yet, I cant shake the feeling of "something cool" beeing a bad pun.
"Here's a new never before heard of Aspect Shrine -the Ice Serpent Shrine - that has always existed. They use supercooling haywire weapons that freeze the opponent!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 13:26:24
Subject: the Gathering storm part II
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Lethal Lhamean
Birmingham
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Cosmic Schwung wrote: Imateria wrote:Why is everybody assuming it's going to be a Wraith construct?
Because of the infinity symbol over the mystery rune. Not convinced myself yet as it also gets used in places that have nothing to do with wraith constructs, like Saim Hann's world rune.
Yeah, it's also used in the symbol for House Ulthanesh (Prince Yriel's House) so it definitely sees wide use. Automatically Appended Next Post: Fayric wrote:The rune, exept for the infinity symbol, is represented in the Eldar codex as belonging to some specific striking scorpions shrines. (current printed codex page 73).
Considering the fluff and the suspicious dark eldar elements we have recently made out of the blurry pics, Im guessing its maybe Arhra returning.
Yet, I cant shake the feeling of "something cool" beeing a bad pun.
It's not the Striking Scorpion rune, though it is similar. It also has similarities to the Wraith and Autarch symbols. I really hope it's not Ahra though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 13:32:42
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine
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That rune has parts or similarities of other Eldar runes, mainly infinite circuits, scorpions, autarchs, rune of Yriel, Siam-hann, karandras,... - everything points to something related. Or that its meaning simply has to do with the Eldar unification.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 14:49:42
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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It'd be nice to see a new plastic Avatar for the Aeyeldariiyelaiin*
*Name future-proofed for continued use. Automatically Appended Next Post: Lockark wrote:Nvs wrote:I hope it's not a wraith construct. I would hope that whatever comes out, it is something with lasting appeal and use. Do the Eldar really need another wraith construct? Something between a Wraithlord and Wraithknight? Or even worse, something even larger than a Wraithknight?
I would hope it's more Dark Eldar or Harlequin oriented as at least those factions could still use a larger unit.
Dark Eldar don't have a infinity circuit and don't use wraith constructs.
Are Harlequin wraith lords still a "thing" in the fluff?
I'm not familiar with the Rogue Trader rulebook but as of 2nd edition there was no mention in the fluff of Harlequin Dreadnoughts (not Wraith Lords at the time). There is an old piece of art showing one, but it's oooold. Perhaps someone with a Rogue Trader rulebook can speak up if there are rules/old entries for one?
Like many people, I did built one just for fun - using the classic Jetbike faceplate (which cost more than the dreadnought itself...grrrr)
I built one simply as a nod to the old conversions you'd see in White Dwarf etc. Logically they don't make any sense at all to feature with Harlequins, but rule-of-cool and all that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 15:10:47
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Elbows wrote:I'm not familiar with the Rogue Trader rulebook but as of 2nd edition there was no mention in the fluff of Harlequin Dreadnoughts (not Wraith Lords at the time). There is an old piece of art showing one, but it's oooold. Perhaps someone with a Rogue Trader rulebook can speak up if there are rules/old entries for one?
That art is from 1st ed but not the RT book. IIRC it was in the 40k compendium that had the first Harlie list. This was back when they could also take (stolen)Land raiders, so yeah a lot has changed since then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 16:49:31
Subject: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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A guardian of the webway would be a neat addition to the Harlequin line. Especially if it matches up well with my Spitewraith Grotesquerie allies.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 17:24:39
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
'Murica! (again)
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6pm GMT they will reveal it on 40K facebook page. 35 minutes...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 17:52:14
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I have that tab open and ready for the F5 spam. I can't wait to know more.
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 17:53:12
Subject: Re: the Gathering storm part II :page16 latest teaser
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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I am so ready I got my F5 finger ready also.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 17:55:33
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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Exciting..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/22 17:59:51
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Watch it be a space marine inside of a Wraithlord.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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