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Nice little treat from GW to brighten up a Monday. I like it, my only concern is how much they're going to up the prices. For an army which relies on 30-boy squads usually, this is going to hurt.

   
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 Valkyrie wrote:
Nice little treat from GW to brighten up a Monday. I like it, my only concern is how much they're going to up the prices. For an army which relies on 30-boy squads usually, this is going to hurt.


This is my concern, too. As a veteran ork player I'm set with a good number of boyz already, but new players will be hurting if the price isn't right on the new infantry. Going by current trends I can easily see a new Ork Boyz box being $45 for 10. Really what I'd love to see is a 20-man box for maybe $55 or $60. That way you're immediately set with a mid-size mob of boyz right out of the box.

On the new Boy.... not sure how I like the new trend in ork faces.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






Wouldn't be that surprised to see the rules move away from actively encouraging full-size units of Boyz tbh. Much more of a concern than price for me is the level of variety you can get out of them. The repeated identical poses on the Beast Snaggas don't fill me with confidence on that front…
   
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New Boyz don’t seem a terribly radical departure from the soon to be Old Boyz at least.

Even if they’re a little bigger, they’re just ‘arder Ladz in the mob.

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Grabbed a boy and a Nob to do a quick size comparison, and was pleasantly surprised. The angle of the base isn't *quite* right, but close enough to see that the new ones haven't got stupid big, they're just a bit more upright than the old Boyz, and the Nobz are still plenty bigger.



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Is the Beast Snaggas box going up for pre-order in July new information, or did we know that already?

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Agile Revenant Titan





Fayetteville NC

 Valkyrie wrote:
Nice little treat from GW to brighten up a Monday. I like it, my only concern is how much they're going to up the prices. For an army which relies on 30-boy squads usually, this is going to hurt.


What if Boyz can no longer be up to 30? Not saying that is the case, but 9th edition has been making some significant changes to what we see as core tenets of the game. Bigger models, bigger bases, maybe no longer units of 30. Maybe 20 max?

Whoah....I have played 40K for over 30 years.  
   
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'ere we go, 'ere we go, 'ere we goooo!

I've super excited. First, new necrons, now new boyz. Please GW, continue the trend of updating core models (Eldar, pretty please). I know its unpopular, but I'm willing to pay more for better orks over the current kit. (Though maybe GW will pull a StD and release the new boyz in a start collecting style set, while keeping the current boyz around
   
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 Sarigar wrote:
 Valkyrie wrote:
Nice little treat from GW to brighten up a Monday. I like it, my only concern is how much they're going to up the prices. For an army which relies on 30-boy squads usually, this is going to hurt.


What if Boyz can no longer be up to 30? Not saying that is the case, but 9th edition has been making some significant changes to what we see as core tenets of the game. Bigger models, bigger bases, maybe no longer units of 30. Maybe 20 max?

I wondered the same. Did poxwalkers cap out at 30 before, or have they always been max 20?
   
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I'm going to be a bit surprised if they decide not to do new gretchin as well. The current models work fine, but now that we have the named Runtherder again, I would have figured GW would try to capitalize on that
   
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Glad he's wearing boots so we don't hear about the toenails again . Actual model does look good too

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 Marshal Loss wrote:
I think the new boy looks absolutely incredible.


Agreed, the current models are definitely showing their age, but these new ones are phenomenal and would actually encourage me to start an Ork army.

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 Sarigar wrote:
 Valkyrie wrote:
Nice little treat from GW to brighten up a Monday. I like it, my only concern is how much they're going to up the prices. For an army which relies on 30-boy squads usually, this is going to hurt.


What if Boyz can no longer be up to 30? Not saying that is the case, but 9th edition has been making some significant changes to what we see as core tenets of the game. Bigger models, bigger bases, maybe no longer units of 30. Maybe 20 max?


Remove the green tide rule which requires 20+ models and mobs will shrink naturally. Before 8th mobs of 30 were generally seen as a liability because 3x20 boyz are usually better than 2x30.


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 Nazrak wrote:
I wondered the same. Did poxwalkers cap out at 30 before, or have they always been max 20?


Always have been 20.

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 Nazrak wrote:
 Sarigar wrote:
 Valkyrie wrote:
Nice little treat from GW to brighten up a Monday. I like it, my only concern is how much they're going to up the prices. For an army which relies on 30-boy squads usually, this is going to hurt.


What if Boyz can no longer be up to 30? Not saying that is the case, but 9th edition has been making some significant changes to what we see as core tenets of the game. Bigger models, bigger bases, maybe no longer units of 30. Maybe 20 max?

I wondered the same. Did poxwalkers cap out at 30 before, or have they always been max 20?


Poxwalkers were always 20. Cultists were 40, that is now limited to 30 in the new DG codex and CSM v2.

   
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 jaredb wrote:
 Marshal Loss wrote:
I think the new boy looks absolutely incredible.


Agreed, the current models are definitely showing their age, but these new ones are phenomenal and would actually encourage me to start an Ork army.


Well, I hope you have ~500 canadian dollars set aside for your minimum troop requirements.

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 Jidmah wrote:
 jaredb wrote:
 Marshal Loss wrote:
I think the new boy looks absolutely incredible.


Agreed, the current models are definitely showing their age, but these new ones are phenomenal and would actually encourage me to start an Ork army.


Well, I hope you have ~500 canadian dollars set aside for your minimum troop requirements.


Yeaaaah, as happy as I am that boyz are getting some loving in the model department, it's going to be an easy excuse for GW to price the absolute heck out of the new box that you'll undoubtedly need loads of if you're new to the faction. 10 for 60$ here we go againnnn
   
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I mean, it's not too late to load up on the current, cheaper boyz kit. They may not look as nice, but you could fill out an army with the older ones, and sprinkle in the new for variety. We still have a month or more before the kits replaced.
   
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 Valkyrie wrote:
Nice little treat from GW to brighten up a Monday. I like it, my only concern is how much they're going to up the prices. For an army which relies on 30-boy squads usually, this is going to hurt.


Safe to say minimum same as cadian infantry now(35e, boyz 28e). Could go to sister level as all new and not just upgrae sprue.

But good they seem to fit with old. So no need to replace models and still looks coherent. Ndt much options and likely making tank bustas etc becomes harder but that's expected. New ork players will have it expensive


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 Sarigar wrote:
 Valkyrie wrote:
Nice little treat from GW to brighten up a Monday. I like it, my only concern is how much they're going to up the prices. For an army which relies on 30-boy squads usually, this is going to hurt.


What if Boyz can no longer be up to 30? Not saying that is the case, but 9th edition has been making some significant changes to what we see as core tenets of the game. Bigger models, bigger bases, maybe no longer units of 30. Maybe 20 max?


3x20 isn't any cheaper for wallet than 2x30.

20 w1 no save t5 will go poof same as 30 at t4. Ie enemy snap fingers.

You still need lots or all your boyz dead before they reach enemy.

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Hey look monopose monobuild boyz, we'll be lucky if they can swap heads and guns within the same box, 100% can't swap with any other kit, 100% can't have choppa/slugga option in the same box.

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I don't think I am going to miss the old Boyz. Being multipose doesn't do much if none of the poses look good.

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I really like the new Ork rider mini, just wonder what the effect of stupid orkstodes stat inflation will be. T7 nobs? T8 bosses/meks? T9 warbosses? T12 Ghaz? And the new dude probably too, if not something like T14, seeing named characters, cyborgs, big mounts, and cavalry all give +T bonuses. Move over Warmaster titan, new hotness is coming to show you who is hardest boss around

 GaroRobe wrote:
I've super excited. First, new necrons, now new boyz. Please GW, continue the trend of updating core models (Eldar, pretty please). I know its unpopular, but I'm willing to pay more for better orks over the current kit. (Though maybe GW will pull a StD and release the new boyz in a start collecting style set, while keeping the current boyz around

Did you miss the memo? SC are kaput now. This is not AoS with tons of cool discount boxes, 40K will get garbage ork patrol box and we'll be happy if it has more than 20 minis in it (and then some clowns will still praise it for being gReAt DeAl)
   
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jullevi wrote:
I don't think I am going to miss the old Boyz. Being multipose doesn't do much if none of the poses look good.


Well pose is pretty much same. But this one might not even have both weapon loadouts same. And same pose on every 10th gets old. Particularly with nob/special weapon. Same every model

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Well looking even more on the brightside, this may mean an influx of cheaper old boyz on the secondary market.

So if you are going to start a new Ork army or just need more boyz (I actually fall in the latter) you can either get cheap older ones on eBay or get a couple of boxes of the new guys and spatter them among your old guys.

Might actually create some nice diversity within the units and not look so out of place.
   
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Stockholm, Sweden

Huh, that's it then, new Boyz. Will be interesting to see how modular they are and how interchangeable they are with the other kits. I have sooo many heads, arms and torsos in my bitz box, and it would be nice to be able to mix it up a bit.

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 Irbis wrote:
I really like the new Ork rider mini, just wonder what the effect of stupid orkstodes stat inflation will be. T7 nobs? T8 bosses/meks? T9 warbosses? T12 Ghaz? And the new dude probably too, if not something like T14, seeing named characters, cyborgs, big mounts, and cavalry all give +T bonuses. Move over Warmaster titan, new hotness is coming to show you who is hardest boss around

 GaroRobe wrote:
I've super excited. First, new necrons, now new boyz. Please GW, continue the trend of updating core models (Eldar, pretty please). I know its unpopular, but I'm willing to pay more for better orks over the current kit. (Though maybe GW will pull a StD and release the new boyz in a start collecting style set, while keeping the current boyz around

Did you miss the memo? SC are kaput now. This is not AoS with tons of cool discount boxes, 40K will get garbage ork patrol box and we'll be happy if it has more than 20 minis in it (and then some clowns will still praise it for being gReAt DeAl)


Well. You can of course pay more than you would. Initial price is higher yes. But so is discount.

But guess you want to pay more for same. Each to his own good for you to have money to waste

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That looks like a really nice sculpt - a bit more gritty and realistic/less comic. Sounds like Orks are going to get a decent release out of this.
   
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Vigo. Spain.

As much as I love the current ork boyz. This one looks promising. And is "simple" enough that maybe, just maybe, GW delivered and they have a ton of options.

They remind me of the orks of Space Marine, the videogame.


EDIT: But with new necrons and new orks, the "new" cadians, more expensive for just an upgrade sprue are even more aggravating.

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Updated physique is a big improvement over the old models, though I miss the characterful "angular" Brian Nelson heads. Most of the recent Ork/Orruk released have these heads with more rounded and soft facial features.

Modularity-wise, the most we can expect is a set two sets of arms designed to fit a specific body (probably shoota and CCW/pistol) and maybe interchangeable heads.

 
   
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 Irbis wrote:


 GaroRobe wrote:
I've super excited. First, new necrons, now new boyz. Please GW, continue the trend of updating core models (Eldar, pretty please). I know its unpopular, but I'm willing to pay more for better orks over the current kit. (Though maybe GW will pull a StD and release the new boyz in a start collecting style set, while keeping the current boyz around

Did you miss the memo? SC are kaput now. This is not AoS with tons of cool discount boxes, 40K will get garbage ork patrol box and we'll be happy if it has more than 20 minis in it (and then some clowns will still praise it for being gReAt DeAl)


Hence why I said start collecting style, not just a start collecting. But yeah, I doubt we'll get something great like AOS deals in 40k for the foreseeable future.
   
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 Galas wrote:
As much as I love the current ork boyz. This one looks promising. And is "simple" enough that maybe, just maybe, GW delivered and they have a ton of options.

They remind me of the orks of Space Marine, the videogame.


EDIT: But with new necrons and new orks, the "new" cadians, more expensive for just an upgrade sprue are even more aggravating.


Yeah, I don't understand why they didn't take the plunge for a full resculpt tbh. Imperial Guard were one of the runner ups for me when I was deciding what army to start when I began 40k. Football head Cadians and misshapen Catachans definitely put me off, it killed me that DKoK and Elysians were resin for me at the time since I loved their tanks and stormtroopers. It's shocking that they leave core plastic kits like that languishing for years while they add another Primaris Lieutenant for the umpteenth time.
   
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 Nazrak wrote:
Grabbed a boy and a Nob to do a quick size comparison, and was pleasantly surprised. The angle of the base isn't *quite* right, but close enough to see that the new ones haven't got stupid big, they're just a bit more upright than the old Boyz, and the Nobz are still plenty bigger.



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Is the Beast Snaggas box going up for pre-order in July new information, or did we know that already?


Could you chuck in a Beast Snagga to this scale comp? Curious how they stand next to the older models/new boyz.
   
 
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