Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics

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**Tomsug**

Good note. I speak purly about Speedmob, because I ' ve never seen a competitive list of Speedwaagh without speedmob for more than a year or something…

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Competitive innovation part 1 this week are pretty orky and finaly interesting!

Salt Lake Open - notoriously known Richard Kiltone 8th with Deathskull infantry brigade spam

Spoiler:

The 2022 Gateway Open 40K Grand Tournament - Scott Sasser is 10th with regular Nobz! (And pretty ordinary ghazzy / goff list)

Spoiler:

And hohohoooo!! Tables & Towers August GT - On 5th place there is an Ork Tarzan with Kustom Stompa!

Spoiler:

**Sazzlefrats**

SemperMortis wrote:
Sazzlefrats wrote:
Hey any reason why I couldn't put a beasthide mantle on a kill rig?

Because you aren't allowed to?

Whoops pg68... gotcha

**CaptainO**

Ref the kustom stompa list, does a super heavy auxilary detachment now refund all the cp now? Because otherwise....

**xttz**

CaptainO wrote:
Ref the kustom stompa list, does a super heavy auxilary detachment now refund all the cp now? Because otherwise....

Yeah Nephilim changed super heavy aux cost from 1 CP to 0 CP

Still no faction rules on the detachment, but it's a start

**terennNash**

CaptainO wrote:
Ref the kustom stompa list, does a super heavy auxilary detachment now refund all the cp now? Because otherwise....

its legal. in battlescribe when you add a super heavy aux you have to manually add both the detachment cost and the Shared Faction Bonus to get the 3cp refund.

**CaptainO**

Cheers didn't pick up on that during the Nephilim release. I do have a stompa somewhere at home...

**Afrodactyl**

Going to be trying out the list in the spoilers, having absorbed some of the knowledge from you guys in here. Most notable changes are the ditching of my Deffkoptas, DakkaMek and Bikerboss, and adding of a second Squigboss, a Battlewagon and some Zzapkrumpas Burna boys.

I'm not gearing up for a particular tournament or anything at the moment, just tweaking. Please let me know what you think.

Spoiler:

The Kommandos, Trukk Boys and Zagstruk (in the Trukk) are the turn one threat, the Squigs and the Burna Wagon are the turn two threat. The Mek Guns sit and hold the home plate, ideally one on either flank, or one on an objective and one on the opposite flank.

There's a total of eleven Core units for fulfilling actions/objectives. There's also absolutely buttloads of MW potential.

The only thing I'm iffy about is the second boys unit, who are not Trukk Boys. At the moment they will be in the BW with the Burnas and can help the Burnas knock off a troublesome unit that they don't manage to shift on their own. However they otherwise don't really fit. I don't have the points to replace them with Beast Snaggas (I've already had to cut my beloved Breach Rams

), and I'd rather not have to paint another twenty Gretchen if I can avoid it.

**Tomsug**

You don' t have 90 grot from the end of 8th?

**Afrodactyl**

Tomsug wrote:
You don' t have 90 grot from the end of 8th?

I thought I did, but I also spent a lot of 8th refusing to run the Grot spam lists, so maybe I didn't have as many as I thought.

The only other explanation is that they're deep in storage somewhere, my partner is slowly and secretly selling my minis, or the cat has been eating them.

:EDIT:
Is anyone able to tell me how a Squigosaur compares to the Squig from the Kill Rig set in terms of size? I have a conversion in mind, and a quick favour would be greatly appreciated.

**Beardedragon**

Tomsug wrote:
Good note. I speak purly about Speedmob, because I ' ve never seen a competitive list of Speedwaagh without speedmob for more than a year or something…

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Competitive innovation part 1 this week are pretty orky and finaly interesting!

Salt Lake Open - notoriously known Richard Kiltone 8th with Deathskull infantry brigade spam

Spoiler:

++ Brigade Detachment 0CP (Orks) [113 PL, 4CP, 2,000pts] ++

+ Configuration [6CP] +

Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) [6CP]

Clan Kultur: Deathskulls

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim

+ No Force Org Slot [12 PL, 195pts] +

Nob on Smasha Squig [4 PL, 65pts]: Big Choppa, Slugga, Smasha Squig Jaws

Nob on Smasha Squig [4 PL, 65pts]: Big Choppa, Slugga, Smasha Squig Jaws

Nob on Smasha Squig [4 PL, 65pts]: Big Choppa, Slugga, Smasha Squig Jaws

+ HQ [18 PL, -2CP, 320pts] +

Beastboss on Squigosaur [9 PL, -2CP, 160pts]: 3. 'Ard as Nails, Beastchoppa, Headwoppa's Killchoppa, Slugga, Squigosaur's Jaws, Stratagem: Relic [-1CP], Stratagem: Warlord Trait [-1CP], Warlord

Painboss [5 PL, 90pts]: Beast Snagga Klaw [5pts], Grot Orderly [5pts]

Weirdboy [4 PL, 70pts]: 2. Warpath, 3. Da Jump, Weirdboy Staff

+ Troops [33 PL, 620pts] +

Beast Snagga Boyz [5 PL, 100pts]
. 9x Beast Snagga Boy [90pts]: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga
. Beast Snagga Nob [10pts]: Power Snappa, Slugga

Beast Snagga Boyz [5 PL, 100pts]
. 9x Beast Snagga Boy [90pts]: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga
. Beast Snagga Nob [10pts]: Power Snappa, Slugga

Beast Snagga Boyz [5 PL, 100pts]
. 9x Beast Snagga Boy [90pts]: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga
. Beast Snagga Nob [10pts]: Power Snappa, Slugga

Boyz [5 PL, 80pts]: Trukk Boyz
. Boss Nob [8pts]: Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs
. 9x Ork Boy w/ Slugga & Choppa [72pts]: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga, 9x Stikkbombs

Boyz [5 PL, 80pts]
. Boss Nob [8pts]: Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs
. 9x Ork Boy w/ Slugga & Choppa [72pts]: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga, 9x Stikkbombs

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]
. 10x Gretchin [40pts]: 10x Grot Blaster

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]
. 10x Gretchin [40pts]: 10x Grot Blaster

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]
. 10x Gretchin [40pts]: 10x Grot Blaster

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]
. 10x Gretchin [40pts]: 10x Grot Blaster

+ Elites [16 PL, 240pts] +

Kommandos [4 PL, 60pts]
. Boss Nob [16pts]: Power Klaw [5pts], Slugga, Stikkbombs
. 4x Kommando [44pts]: 4x Choppa, 4x Slugga, 4x Stikkbombs

Meganobz [6 PL, 90pts]
. Boss Meganob [30pts]: Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw, Stikkbombs
. Meganob [30pts]: Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw, Stikkbombs
. Meganob [30pts]: Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw, Stikkbombs

Meganobz [6 PL, 90pts]
. Boss Meganob [30pts]: Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw, Stikkbombs
. Meganob [30pts]: Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw, Stikkbombs
. Meganob [30pts]: Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw, Stikkbombs

+ Fast Attack [18 PL, 340pts] +

Squighog Boyz [4 PL, 80pts]: Bomb Squig [5pts]
. 3x Squighog Boy [75pts]: 3x Saddlegit Weapons, 3x Squighog Jaws, 3x Stikka

Squighog Boyz [4 PL, 80pts]: Bomb Squig [5pts]
. 3x Squighog Boy [75pts]: 3x Saddlegit Weapons, 3x Squighog Jaws, 3x Stikka

Squighog Boyz [4 PL, 80pts]: Bomb Squig [5pts]
. 3x Squighog Boy [75pts]: 3x Saddlegit Weapons, 3x Squighog Jaws, 3x Stikka

Stormboyz [3 PL, 50pts]
. Boss Nob [10pts]: Choppa, Slugga, Stikkbombs
. 4x Stormboy [40pts]: 4x Choppa, 4x Slugga, 4x Stikkbombs

Stormboyz [3 PL, 50pts]
. Boss Nob [10pts]: Choppa, Slugga, Stikkbombs
. 4x Stormboy [40pts]: 4x Choppa, 4x Slugga, 4x Stikkbombs

+ Heavy Support [12 PL, 215pts] +

Battlewagon [8 PL, 135pts]: 'ard Case [15pts], Deff Rolla [15pts]

Mek Gunz [2 PL, 40pts]
. Mek Gun [2 PL, 40pts]: Smasha Gun

Mek Gunz [2 PL, 40pts]
. Mek Gun [2 PL, 40pts]: Smasha Gun

+ Dedicated Transport [4 PL, 70pts] +

Trukk [4 PL, 70pts]: Big Shoota

++ Total: [113 PL, 4CP, 2,000pts] ++

The 2022 Gateway Open 40K Grand Tournament - Scott Sasser is 10th with regular Nobz! (And pretty ordinary ghazzy / goff list)

Spoiler:

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Orks) [42 PL, -4CP, 735pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Clan Kultur: Goffs

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

+ HQ +

Beastboss on Squigosaur [9 PL, -2CP, 165pts]: 3. 'Ard as Nails, Beastchoppa, Beasthide Mantle, Slugga, Squigosaur's Jaws, Stratagem: Big Boss, Stratagem: Extra Gubbinz, Thump Gun

+ Troops +

Boyz [5 PL, 90pts]: Trukk Boyz
. Boss Nob: Choppa, Killsaw, Stikkbombs
. 9x Ork Boy w/ Slugga & Choppa: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga, 9x Stikkbombs

+ Elites +

Kommandos [4 PL, 60pts]
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga, Stikkbombs
. 4x Kommando: 4x Choppa, 4x Slugga, 4x Stikkbombs

Kommandos [4 PL, 60pts]
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga, Stikkbombs
. 4x Kommando: 4x Choppa, 4x Slugga, 4x Stikkbombs

+ Fast Attack +

Stormboyz [6 PL, 110pts]
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga, Stikkbombs
. 9x Stormboy: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga, 9x Stikkbombs

Stormboyz [6 PL, 110pts]
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga, Stikkbombs
. 9x Stormboy: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga, 9x Stikkbombs

+ Heavy Support +

Lootas [4 PL, 70pts]
. 4x Loota: 4x Deffgun, 4x Stikkbombs
. Spanner: Big Shoota, Stikkbombs

+ Dedicated Transport +

Trukk [4 PL, 70pts]: Big Shoota

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Orks) [56 PL, -4CP, 915pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Clan Kultur: Goffs

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

+ HQ +

Beastboss on Squigosaur [9 PL, -2CP, 165pts]: 4. Brutal but Kunnin, Beastchoppa, Headwoppa's Killchoppa, Slugga, Squigosaur's Jaws, Stratagem: Big Boss, Stratagem: Extra Gubbinz, Thump Gun

+ Troops +

Boyz [5 PL, 90pts]: Trukk Boyz
. Boss Nob: Choppa, Killsaw, Stikkbombs
. 9x Ork Boy w/ Slugga & Choppa: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga, 9x Stikkbombs

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]
. 10x Gretchin: 10x Grot Blaster

+ Elites +

Nobz [12 PL, 185pts]
. Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs
. Nob: Big Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs
. Nob: Big Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs
. Nob: Big Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs
. Nob: Big Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs
. Nob: Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs
. Nob: Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs
. Nob: Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs
. Nob: Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs
. Nob: Choppa, Choppa, Stikkbombs

+ Fast Attack +

Squighog Boyz [8 PL, 130pts]: Bomb Squig
. 5x Squighog Boy: 5x Saddlegit Weapons, 5x Squighog Jaws, 5x Stikka

Squighog Boyz [8 PL, 130pts]: Bomb Squig
. 5x Squighog Boy: 5x Saddlegit Weapons, 5x Squighog Jaws, 5x Stikka

+ Heavy Support +

Battlewagon [8 PL, 105pts]

+ Dedicated Transport +

Trukk [4 PL, 70pts]: Big Shoota

++ Supreme Command Detachment +2CP (Orks) [18 PL, 8CP, 350pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Clan Kultur: Goffs

Detachment Command Cost [2CP]

Gametype: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim

+ No Force Org Slot +

Makari [3 PL, 50pts]: Makari's Stabba

+ Primarch | Daemon Primarch | Supreme Commander +

Ghazghkull Thraka [15 PL, 300pts]: Gork's Klaw, Mork's Roar, Stikkbombs, Warlord

++ Total: [116 PL, 2,000pts] ++

And hohohoooo!! Tables & Towers August GT - On 5th place there is an Ork Tarzan with Kustom Stompa!

Spoiler:

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment -3CP (Orks) [40 PL, 750pts, -3CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Clan Kultur: Goffs

Detachment Command Cost [-3CP]

+ Lord of War +

Kustom Stompa [40 PL, 750pts]: Belly Gun, Stompa Lifta-Droppa
. Deffkannon, Supa-Gatler & Supa-Rokkits

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Orks) [45 PL, 625pts, 4CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Clan Kultur: Goffs

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim

+ HQ +

Beastboss on Squigosaur [9 PL, 160pts, -2CP]: 3. 'Ard as Nails, Beasthide Mantle, Stratagem: Relic, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Warlord

+ Troops +

Gretchin [4 PL, 44pts]: 'Orrible Gitz
. 11x Gretchin: 11x Grot Blaster

+ Elites +

Kommandos [8 PL, 125pts]: Bomb Squig
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw
. 8x Kommando: 8x Choppa, 8x Slugga, 8x Stikkbombs
. Kommando w/ Breacha Ram: Breacha Ram

Kommandos [8 PL, 66pts]
. Boss Nob: Choppa
. 5x Kommando: 5x Choppa, 5x Slugga, 5x Stikkbombs

+ Fast Attack +

Squighog Boyz [8 PL, 125pts]
. 5x Squighog Boy: 5x Saddlegit Weapons, 5x Squighog Jaws, 5x Stikka

Stormboyz [6 PL, 60pts]
. Boss Nob: Choppa
. 5x Stormboy: 5x Choppa, 5x Slugga, 5x Stikkbombs

+ Heavy Support +

Mek Gunz [2 PL, 45pts]
. Mek Gun: Kustom Mega Kannon

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Orks) [38 PL, 625pts, -4CP] ++

+ Configuration +

Clan Kultur: Goffs

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

+ No Force Org Slot +

Nob on Smasha Squig [4 PL, 65pts]

+ HQ +

Beastboss on Squigosaur [9 PL, 160pts, -2CP]: 4. Brutal but Kunnin, Headwoppa's Killchoppa, Stratagem: Big Boss, Stratagem: Extra Gubbinz

+ Troops +

Boyz [5 PL, 80pts]: Trukk Boyz
. Boss Nob: Choppa, Slugga
. 9x Ork Boy w/ Slugga & Choppa: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga, 9x Stikkbombs

+ Fast Attack +

Squighog Boyz [8 PL, 125pts]
. 5x Squighog Boy: 5x Saddlegit Weapons, 5x Squighog Jaws, 5x Stikka

Squighog Boyz [8 PL, 125pts]
. 5x Squighog Boy: 5x Saddlegit Weapons, 5x Squighog Jaws, 5x Stikka

+ Dedicated Transport +

Trukk [4 PL, 70pts]

++ Total: [123 PL, 2,000pts, -3CP] ++

To be fair, i recently ran a list with 2 rigs full of snagga boys, and a battlewagon full of 10 nobz (5 choppa, 5 big choppa) and 10 beast snagga boys.

It actually did rather well. If you can get the Nobz in on the turn you waaagh, then the 5++ coupled with their own 4+ isnt too bad with 2 wounds each.

The trick simply is to not get near damage 2 units, which sadly there is a lot of.

So i dont know if i find Nobz competitive, but it also werent as bad as i think i thought it would be.

**Tomsug**

Competitive Innovations part 2 this week

Capital City Bloodbath - Will Paul was 11th with the speedmob single detach freebootas wtih Bonebreaker

Spoiler:

GemHammer GT 2022 - Roland Hubert - 3rd with goffs and ghazzy

Spoiler:

Gameology Pasadena ‘Hammer of Wrath’ GT - 6th is Brendan Molloy with pretty much similar list

Spoiler:

**CaptainO**

Bit of a meme but the guy using the Kustom stompa provided inspiration and I have all the models

Spoiler:

It does suck that I'd start with 0cp so wouldn't be able to pop the 5++ kff T1 unless I go first. The list while probably not too competitive actually has some secondary options.

Knights list these days are running approx 132 wounds (84 t7, 48 t8)while this list has 145 (88 t8, 12 t7, 11 t5 and 34 t3) with the kff, great waagh and fnp the list may have a similar survivability to taranis (although less good shooting and maybe parity in combat overall.

I'm also looking at a freeboota version with a Kustom stompa with belly gun to maximise firepower (+1 to hit) but Id lose the fnp. Maybe mixing in a rukkatrukk to kick the shooting off with it's built in +1 to hit.

Has anyone tried running an Ork super heavy since the most recent changes?

I was also relooking at wazboms. The fact that can give them a 5++ and 6+ over two turns means one could probably save 20pt on the blasta force field and means they'll always get access to the sweet sweet s3 stickbomm flinga.

**gungo**

Afrodactyl wrote:

:EDIT:
Is anyone able to tell me how a Squigosaur compares to the Squig from the Kill Rig set in terms of size? I have a conversion in mind, and a quick favour would be greatly appreciated.

The squig on the Killrig is slightly smaller but you can use it for a conversion on the squigasaur size base and it wouldn’t look out of place.

**Tomsug**

CaptainO wrote:
Bit of a meme but the guy using the Kustom stompa provided inspiration and I have all the models

Spoiler:

++ Super-Heavy Detachment -6CP (Orks) [68 PL, -6CP, 1,330pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Clan Kultur: Goffs

Detachment Command Cost [-6CP]

+ Lord of War +

Kill Tank [15 PL, 275pts]: Giga Shoota

Morkanaut [19 PL, 380pts]: Kustom Force Field

Stompa [34 PL, 675pts]

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Orks) [36 PL, 6CP, 670pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Clan Kultur: Goffs

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim

+ No Force Org Slot +

Makari [3 PL, 50pts]

+ HQ +

Ghazghkull Thraka [15 PL, 300pts]

Weirdboy [4 PL, 70pts]: 2. Warpath, 4. Fists of Gork

+ Troops +

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]: 'Orrible Gitz
. 10x Gretchin: 10x Grot Blaster

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]
. 10x Gretchin: 10x Grot Blaster

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]
. 10x Gretchin: 10x Grot Blaster

+ Elites +

Kommandos [4 PL, 60pts]
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw
. 4x Kommando: 4x Choppa, 4x Slugga, 4x Stikkbombs

Nob with Waaagh! Banner [4 PL, 70pts]

++ Total: [104 PL, 2,000pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

It does suck that I'd start with 0cp so wouldn't be able to pop the 5++ kff T1 unless I go first. The list while probably not too competitive actually has some secondary options.

Knights list these days are running approx 132 wounds (84 t7, 48 t8)while this list has 145 (88 t8, 12 t7, 11 t5 and 34 t3) with the kff, great waagh and fnp the list may have a similar survivability to taranis (although less good shooting and maybe parity in combat overall.

I'm also looking at a freeboota version with a Kustom stompa with belly gun to maximise firepower (+1 to hit) but Id lose the fnp. Maybe mixing in a rukkatrukk to kick the shooting off with it's built in +1 to hit.

Has anyone tried running an Ork super heavy since the most recent changes?

I was also relooking at wazboms. The fact that can give them a 5++ and 6+ over two turns means one could probably save 20pt on the blasta force field and means they'll always get access to the sweet sweet s3 stickbomm flinga.

I like it! Second Naut instead of killtank will make it better meme

**Afrodactyl**

gungo wrote:
Afrodactyl wrote:

:EDIT:
Is anyone able to tell me how a Squigosaur compares to the Squig from the Kill Rig set in terms of size? I have a conversion in mind, and a quick favour would be greatly appreciated.

The squig on the Killrig is slightly smaller but you can use it for a conversion on the squigasaur size base and it wouldn’t look out of place.

That is excellent news, thank you.

**CaptainO**

Tomsug wrote:
CaptainO wrote:
Bit of a meme but the guy using the Kustom stompa provided inspiration and I have all the models

Spoiler:

++ Super-Heavy Detachment -6CP (Orks) [68 PL, -6CP, 1,330pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Clan Kultur: Goffs

Detachment Command Cost [-6CP]

+ Lord of War +

Kill Tank [15 PL, 275pts]: Giga Shoota

Morkanaut [19 PL, 380pts]: Kustom Force Field

Stompa [34 PL, 675pts]

++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Orks) [36 PL, 6CP, 670pts] ++[spoiler]

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Clan Kultur: Goffs

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim

+ No Force Org Slot +

Makari [3 PL, 50pts]

+ HQ +

Ghazghkull Thraka [15 PL, 300pts]

Weirdboy [4 PL, 70pts]: 2. Warpath, 4. Fists of Gork

+ Troops +

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]: 'Orrible Gitz
. 10x Gretchin: 10x Grot Blaster

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]
. 10x Gretchin: 10x Grot Blaster

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]
. 10x Gretchin: 10x Grot Blaster

+ Elites +

Kommandos [4 PL, 60pts]
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw
. 4x Kommando: 4x Choppa, 4x Slugga, 4x Stikkbombs

Nob with Waaagh! Banner [4 PL, 70pts]

++ Total: [104 PL, 2,000pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

[/spoiler]
It does suck that I'd start with 0cp so wouldn't be able to pop the 5++ kff T1 unless I go first. The list while probably not too competitive actually has some secondary options.

Knights list these days are running approx 132 wounds (84 t7, 48 t8)while this list has 145 (88 t8, 12 t7, 11 t5 and 34 t3) with the kff, great waagh and fnp the list may have a similar survivability to taranis (although less good shooting and maybe parity in combat overall.

I'm also looking at a freeboota version with a Kustom stompa with belly gun to maximise firepower (+1 to hit) but Id lose the fnp. Maybe mixing in a rukkatrukk to kick the shooting off with it's built in +1 to hit.

Has anyone tried running an Ork super heavy since the most recent changes?

I was also relooking at wazboms. The fact that can give them a 5++ and 6+ over two turns means one could probably save 20pt on the blasta force field and means they'll always get access to the sweet sweet s3 stickbomm flinga.

I like it! Second Naut instead of killtank will make it better meme

ya I couldn't fit a gorkanaut in without losing some key lynchpin units, losing stuff like fnps/+1 to hit access to psychic secondaries etc.

I could lose the klaw on the kommandos and either the weirdboy (and therefore psychic defense and access to psychic secondaries as well as the ability to give the naughts/stompa +1 (and therefore+3) attacks) with warpath) or I could lose the nob with waagh banner but I like the idea of +1 to hit on an 8 attack S20 ap-5 d9 stompa.

Could you make the arrangement that a barebones killtank is a better pound for pound fighter than a a second morkanaut?

**Tomsug**

Salty Classic GT - Hemdrik Alvarez second with Es Speed Mob

Smaller “GT” (25 people). But imteresting list utilizing to max 2 detachements with 3 independed squigbuggies for max screen of your deploy and 3 independed SJDs for max screen and max Behind/Engage scoring.

And no deffkoptas.

I dont' t take the relic and trait on first watrike however…

Spoiler:

**popisdead**

Hi folks,

Can someone help me out with something.

I remember reading a while back Freebooterz was changed from +1 to RR1s a while back.

I cannot find the FAQ or errata that lists this. I was watching the Art of War faction focus about Orks and they talked about Freebooterz still being +1 to hit (under circumstances).

Can someone show me were GW changed the ruling? I looked at the latest FAQ and Balance Sheet.

thanks kindly

**JNAProductions**

popisdead wrote:
Hi folks,

Can someone help me out with something.

I remember reading a while back Freebooterz was changed from +1 to RR1s a while back.

I cannot find the FAQ or errata that lists this. I was watching the Art of War faction focus about Orks and they talked about Freebooterz still being +1 to hit (under circumstances).

Can someone show me were GW changed the ruling? I looked at the latest FAQ and Balance Sheet.

thanks kindly

I believe it was reverted back pretty quickly.

**Vineheart01**

You cant find it because it was removed. They clearly didnt intend that to go out as it wasnt even marked as new.

**Tomsug**

Yeah, it works this very intuitive way:

Is it there? No.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/BGgBglAmbHKOYysD.pdf

Is it there? No.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/UeSNmXryOfMolf39.pdf

These are only two document in the last versions relevant to the changes of ork codex rules. If it is not there, it is not a topic.

**popisdead**

Well that's handy, thanks folks.

**Vineheart01**

Especially for my Admech i wish they'd keep any redacted changes and just cross them out.
I feel i cant even play my admech right now because i cant keep it straight in my head what is actually applicable right now lol.
(Nevermind that admech royally suck right now)

**Tomsug**

CI part I

Battle in the Bush 2022 - Dale Mann 7th with Goffs and Ghazzy

Spoiler:

Huxleys Open 2022 - David Roick - DEATHSKULLS with Ghazzy and two Kannonwagons and two Wazbooms

Spoiler:

Rise of Kings - David Cross second and undefeated - goffs with ghazzy

Spoiler:

**flaming tadpole**

Rise of Kings - David Cross second and undefeated - goffs with ghazzy

Spoiler:

+ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Orks) [115 PL, 2CP, 2,000pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Clan Kultur: Goffs

Detachment Command Cost

Gametype: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim

+ No Force Org Slot +

Nob on Smasha Squig [4 PL, 65pts]

Nob on Smasha Squig [4 PL, 65pts]

Nob on Smasha Squig [4 PL, 65pts]

+ HQ +

Beastboss on Squigosaur [9 PL, -2CP, 165pts]: 4. Brutal but Kunnin, Headwoppa's Killchoppa, Stratagem: Big Boss, Stratagem: Extra Gubbinz, Thump Gun

Boss Zagstruk [6 PL, 110pts]

Painboss [5 PL, -2CP, 80pts]: Inspiring Leader, Power Snappa, Stratagem: Relic, Stratagem: Warlord Trait, Super Cybork Body, Warlord

+ Troops +

Beast Snagga Boyz [5 PL, 100pts]
. 9x Beast Snagga Boy: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga
. Beast Snagga Nob

Beast Snagga Boyz [5 PL, 100pts]
. 9x Beast Snagga Boy: 9x Choppa, 9x Slugga
. Beast Snagga Nob

Gretchin [2 PL, 40pts]
. 10x Gretchin: 10x Grot Blaster

+ Elites +

Kommandos [4 PL, 60pts]
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw
. 4x Kommando: 4x Choppa, 4x Slugga, 4x Stikkbombs

Meganobz [18 PL, 280pts]
. Boss Meganob: Killsaw, Killsaw
. Meganob: Killsaw, Killsaw
. Meganob: Killsaw, Killsaw
. Meganob: Killsaw, Killsaw
. Meganob: Killsaw, Killsaw
. Meganob: Killsaw, Killsaw
. Meganob: Killsaw, Killsaw

Nob with Waaagh! Banner [4 PL, 70pts]

+ Fast Attack +

Squighog Boyz [8 PL, 160pts]: 2x Bomb Squig
. 6x Squighog Boy: 6x Saddlegit Weapons, 6x Squighog Jaws, 6x Stikka

Squighog Boyz [4 PL, 80pts]: Bomb Squig
. 3x Squighog Boy: 3x Saddlegit Weapons, 3x Squighog Jaws, 3x Stikka

Squighog Boyz [4 PL, 80pts]: Bomb Squig
. 3x Squighog Boy: 3x Saddlegit Weapons, 3x Squighog Jaws, 3x Stikka

+ Heavy Support +

Deff Dreads [7 PL, 100pts]: Stompamatic Pistons
. Deff Dread: Dread Klaw, Dread Klaw, Dread Klaw, Dread Klaw

Kill Rig [11 PL, 190pts]: 2. Frazzle, 4. Spirit of Gork

Kill Rig [11 PL, 190pts]: 1. Roar of Mork, 3. Bitin' Jawz

++ Total: [115 PL, 2CP, 2,000pts] ++

Interesting seeing a big squad of footslogging manz. Does seem like a lot of points he's sinking into that squad, but hey they'll definitely be able to control the center for at least 1-2 turns and slap some stuff. I do like the hyper aggressiveness of the list including the all offense no defense squigboss.

I'm still not sold on the triple squignobs. I know they can trade up fairly easily, but the auto max assassinate you give all your opponents I feel like is a problem and might of been the deciding factor in the one draw he had.

The zoom zoom deff dread is fun.

**Afrodactyl**

I've been trying out a solo stompamatic Deff Dread with all klaws, and I'm really enjoying it in my Goffs list. A perfect distraction carnifex.

Is this the ideal build for Deff Dreads? What's other people's experiences?

**Jidmah**

Afrodactyl wrote:
I've been trying out a solo stompamatic Deff Dread with all klaws, and I'm really enjoying it in my Goffs list. A perfect distraction carnifex.

Is this the ideal build for Deff Dreads? What's other people's experiences?

For me it's either one dread with all saws or two dreads with double KMBs each. A single dread with KMB is just too swingy, and two dreads with saws are too much points being dead weight if you are facing an opponent refusing/avoiding close combat.

**Tomsug**

CI part 2

Power 9 Games Friendly Local GT - notriously known Ben Jurek plays orks again - 5th with goffs without ghazzy /thanks for correction

Spoiler:

THERE IS ONLY WAR – Gamers Guild Grand Tournament - Justin Aguilar with goffs and ghazzy too - 2nd place

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**Beardedragon**

I dont see a Ghaz in the first list?

But it seems a lot of people are taking Ghaz, and im not entirely sure why.

Im honestly running somewhat similar list to these lists with 2 kill rigs, but im not running ghaz. Hes 300 points and for that i dont honestly feel like i get all that much out of him.

But maybe its because the single battalion detatchment is otherwise filled up to the brim that they dont know what else to go for.

Ghaz, though, is the same price as a kill rig and 10 snagga boyz though, so i would probably just get a third rig and 10 snagga boys.

Anyway, my own list dont have Ghaz, and maybe i just dont utilize him properly enough. But for a Goff list that dont benefit at all from his speed waaagh part (except for what, 2 rigs?) i dont really see why running him is great. But clearly it is since a lot is doing exactly that.

**Vineheart01**

Ghaz both offers both halves of the waaagh so if you have any vehicles or bikers they double-dip the benefits and he also gives a goff reroll in melee, which orks almost have none of.

Not to mention, its freaking ghaz!