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the title says it all.who do you think will win?

Ghazgull.

Iranna.

^ this

Same.

Big Ghaz.

definitely Ghaz, no contest.


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Now, a fight between abaddon and marnius Calgar would be interesting

Now I'm all for Ghazzy winning
But nobody says why he'd win .__.

Why Ghaz would win. 7 strength 10 attacks on the charge with WS6 (same as Vulkan). I assume we are talking about these guys fighting in CC. Ghaz would likely get the charge due to Waaagh! so 2++ save also. Furious charge for Ghaz also means they attack at the same time.
Vulkan 3++ save is nice but only 1 has to get through of the 7.

Fluff wise, Gaz is to tuff to be beaten by Vukan simply as that.

Ghaz both in fiction and in game.

As a Salamanders fan from 3E I also have to say Ghaz as Vulkan is more of a support character - he exists outside the regular chain of command and is on a personal /chapter quest to look for the relics of the primarch. Space marine indiana jones.

Ghaz is the biggest baddest orc warlord ever!

Ghazkull would be like thirty feet tall in the fluff based on the idea that the biggest and toughest lead the orks. Seeing as how he is able to subject various tribes and clans quite easily we can assume he is pretty big. As we all know orks respect size. That and supposably as orks fight they grow larger.

So in short, ghazkull always wins

Ghaz easily. There arent many characters capable of bringing him down.

Ghazghull would destroy the memory of Vulkan from the fabric time itself.

Or maybe he'd just stick his skull on a stick..

Everyone's saying that Ghazgull would win easily and I agree. However, I think that Vulcan would still give him a "propa" fight, and while the outcome would be predetermined, there could be a good battle there in fluff: the type where Vulcan is beaten but just about survives to fight another day.

p_gray99 wrote:Everyone's saying that Ghazgull would win easily and I agree. However, I think that Vulcan would still give him a "propa" fight, and while the outcome would be predetermined, there could be a good battle there in fluff: the type where Vulcan is beaten but just about survives to fight another day.

Yeah, GW writers would probably find a way for the fight to happen but for Ghaz to be stupid enough NOT to finish him off. Ghaz is up in the pantheon of most powerful characters in the 40k universe, so he would certainly win in game or on the table top.

Friggen Yarrick.

Ghazgull would literally wipe the floor with him, bisect him, and then throw him away. If it actually happened that is. Knowing GW, they would both survive.

Better question;

Ghazgull Thrakka vs. Asdrubel Vect.

Doctor33 wrote:Better question;

Ghazgull Thrakka vs. Asdrubel Vect.

I'd probably have to go with Vect; he goes first, re-rolls to hit, always wounds on a 3+ and most importantly, has his own Shadow Field. However, it'd only take 1 wound from Ghaz to turn him into jellied purple mush...

iranna.

In fluff terms, I can't see Ghazgull winning. In a one-on-one, possibly, but when would Vect be stupid enough to allow that? It'd be Vect vs. a Ghazgull that's only just survived 50 dark lances.

I agree, I don't think that would ever happen. Vect is just not going to ever go against Gazzy one on one. He is too smart to let that happen even if there is a really good chance that he would win.

I can see other SM commanders looking for the glory and might try to take on the big warboss. But there would be no profit in it for Vect to take on the big green boss.

How many characters are there that would both be ready to take on Ghazgull and able to bring him down?
Being ready to take him on is of course only in fluff, but bringing him down both game and fluff.

Abaddon, Draigo, Calgar, Sanguinor, Mephiston.. pretty much any of your standard SM EW powerhouses.

Of course it really depends if Gaz has his 2++ up. Most of the above could survive a round of pounding his 2++, except perhaps Mephiston. Without the 2++, Gaz is not so scary to the above five examples. Of course, with some good dice rolls (and that shiny 2++) Gaz could quite easily lay the pain down on any of them.

How about Drazha? He's not got an invun, but he's pretty nasty at hurting things, and he's an EW as well. Given that, what about all the phoenix lords?

Drazha's pretty tough, I'll give you that. He might be able to take Ghaz down.

As for the Phoenix Lords - well, even the most heavily combat orientated ones are hardly up to scale with what we'd consider combat monsters in the current run of codecies.

You mean to say "who will win: a walking trophy or the biggest baddest warboss in the universe?"

I don't like this question because the answer is obvious and there is no need to rub it into our faces.

Vulkan is a fantastic character, but he is not the Mary Sue that other characters like Draigo and Calgar are.