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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/12 22:38:59
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
Canada
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Hi Dakka.
Every time I think about what Tau are going to get as a flier, I think of the FW barracuda, though with better rules than the Apocalypse Expansion barracuda. Maybe some stronger missiles, more powerful guns, some kind of special rule...
My question is: What do you want to see in the Flier that comes in the next WD update or codex? Something bigger? Something smaller? A flying transport? What's on your wishlist?
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tgjensen wrote:labmouse42 wrote:Another problem is the abject masculinity of the game. Nearly every character I've read about has the emotional range of a turnip. Hate, Anger, Fear, Loyalty, and Worship. That's about it.
Christ, where do you buy your turnips? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/12 22:40:10
Subject: Re:Tau Flier: What you want
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Fixture of Dakka
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Either something with transport capacity or something that can provide close air support or both.
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Do you play 30k? It'd be a lot cooler if you did. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/12 22:40:34
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Railguns. Tau simply cannot take enough. Fast attack railguns would be amazing.
Having missile pods on the side, as well as the possibility to take seeker missiles is all I could ask for.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/12 22:42:16
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Something that doesn't cripple my army when taken ie etherals/auv va/farsight ect
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/12 22:44:44
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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how bout this
Fast skimmer
F 12
S 12
R 10
Transport 12
weapons: 3 twin linked railguns
130pts
This is a joke carry on
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/12 22:47:22
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Screw 3 TL.
6 railguns, 3 on each wing on something like a mini-manta but still big.
And let that be replaced by 6 TL-smartmissile systems with 41.25" range.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/12 23:34:56
Subject: Re:Tau Flier: What you want
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Emboldened Warlock
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Remora Squadron as Fast attack Choice with improved seeker missiles and seeker missle options.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/12 23:36:30
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/12 23:54:27
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Fireknife Shas'el
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I don't want Burst cannons. I am tired of seeing those worthless weapons on everything.
I heard the rumor that it was a flying artillery platform. Basically hovers and uses markerlights to put down railguns and missiles on everything under the sun. I really want that.
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I'm expecting an Imperial Knights supplement dedicated to GW's loyalist apologetics. Codex: White Knights "In the grim dark future, everything is fine."
"The argument is that we have to do this or we will, bit by bit,
lose everything that we hold dear, everything that keeps the business going. Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky."
-Tom Kirby |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/12 23:54:31
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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i would also like remoras to be fair, i really want to start my tau up again but ... well the Fire warriors put me off and the boxy suits while awsome when released are very dated, especialy when next to the awsome FW ones
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 00:36:27
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Fireknife Shas'el
All over the U.S.
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Savageconvoy wrote:I don't want Burst cannons. I am tired of seeing those worthless weapons on everything.
I heard the rumor that it was a flying artillery platform. Basically hovers and uses markerlights to put down railguns and missiles on everything under the sun. I really want that.
Lord, I hope not. One of the things that drew me to the Tau was their basis in manoeveure warfare yet GW keeps making them more and more of a static gunline army. I want our agility back...like what we had before everyone and their brother became fast or fleet.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/13 00:54:21
Officially elevated by St. God of Yams to the rank of Scholar of the Church of the Children of the Eternal Turtle Pie at 11:42:36 PM 05/01/09
If they are too stupid to live, why make them?
In the immortal words of Socrates, I drank what??!
Tau-*****points(You really don't want to know) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 01:00:19
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Fireknife Shas'el
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I guess I mistyped. I want the ability to move and hover like the stormtalon but able to put out more firepower. I feel that Tau are still fairly fast moving, but having one unit with speed won't really help. Having one unit that has enough firepower to carve rude gestures and taunts to the enemy on one of the local moons? That would help.
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I'm expecting an Imperial Knights supplement dedicated to GW's loyalist apologetics. Codex: White Knights "In the grim dark future, everything is fine."
"The argument is that we have to do this or we will, bit by bit,
lose everything that we hold dear, everything that keeps the business going. Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky."
-Tom Kirby |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 01:07:08
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Never seen a Barracuda other than in pictures, but seems a bit larger than the current batch of GW fliers... Remoras I've seen a few, and though bigger than the common Tau drone, they're still way smaller than a Razorwing or an Ork Bommer. Safest bet is to assume they won't be getting a FW redo, but a brand new type of flier.
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War does not determine who is right - only who is left. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 01:10:17
Subject: Re:Tau Flier: What you want
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I would like to see something like a gunship. Perhaps something like AV 11 AV 10 AV 10 Two wing-mounted weapons and a nose mounted weapon that are any of the following Nose-Mounted Railgun Burst Cannon (why you would take this I don't know, but it is always going to be an option) Plasma Rifle Cyclical Ion Blaster Marker Light Ion Cannon Wing-Mounted Missile Pod Seeker Missile Pylon (Pylon with 3 Seeker Missiles Each) Cyclical Ion Blaster Burst Cannon Twin-Linked Rail Rifles Something fast, light, and with a ton of firepower that can be kitted out for any goal (take 3 Cyclical Ion Blasters to chew through infantry, take seeker missiles and a marker light to get a flying skyray, take a railgun and two twin-linked rail rifles for more rail weapons than you will ever want on a vehicle). Granted it should be expensive as hell for so many weapons, perhaps 120 points before including the costs of any weapons
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 01:49:59
Subject: Re:Tau Flier: What you want
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
Canada
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Now that seems interesting. What about including some of the FW hammerhead alternate weapons, like the long barreled burst cannons or the missile pods with blast.
And I agree that it would have to be extra maneuverable and able to fire all it's weapons while flying at a fair clip.
And remoras with the ability to take fusion blasters would be pretty cool.
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tgjensen wrote:labmouse42 wrote:Another problem is the abject masculinity of the game. Nearly every character I've read about has the emotional range of a turnip. Hate, Anger, Fear, Loyalty, and Worship. That's about it.
Christ, where do you buy your turnips? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 02:03:19
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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I would be happy with the FW Update Hammerhead Weapons or an Ion Cannon instead of Railguns. Weapons that can take it to infantry and to light vehicles so our Railguns can focus on what needs to be taken out. If you need vehicles gone the Fusion Cannon combined with the rapid movement of a Flier would be brutally effective.
I wouldn't mind bringing the Barracuda or the Tiger Sharks over from Forgeworld (the latter would need a serious Nerf to be both playable and affordable in a regular game).
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Tau and Space Wolves since 5th Edition. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 07:15:38
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Disbeliever of the Greater Good
Netherlands
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I'd like the flier to be something like this:
Points: 100-150
Type: Fast, Skimmer
AV: 11 All round, or 10 all round (doesn't really matter to much IMO).
BS: 4
Weapons: 4 Networked Markerlights, 2 Rail Rifles.
Comes with: Multi-tracker, Target Lock.
Special Rules: Aerial Assault, Supersonic
May upgrade: rail rifles to 1 Ion Cannon (15 points),
May take any upgrade from the Vehicle Armory.
I have heard that the fliers gonna get a new type of missile that works with markerlights, but that's just a rumor and should be taken with salt.
Ether way, I hope they make something interesting that is fun to field on the battlefield.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 09:17:04
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Regular Dakkanaut
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a Flier with 12/12/12 armor and BS4 that can run
2 networked markerlights and 4 twinlinked missile pods with a railgun for 200 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 10:01:03
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Furious Raptor
A top the tip of the endless spire
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I reckon it will probably be something similar to a piranha in design except larger and more of a gunship. So larger with more/bigger guns. Or something like a large remora perhaps... meh... thats my guess anyway
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''I am the prophet of doom!''
Really?
''Yes... the last thing you shall see before your eyes close...''
.....will be?
''....your bedroom ceiling'' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 12:38:00
Subject: Re:Tau Flier: What you want
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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I'm hoping for a mini orca type gunship. Something with 6-8 shots, like 2 Cyclical Ion Blaster type weapons but at least S6. And termed a dedicated transport so you can spam them if you want.
AV11 F
AV11 S
AV10 R
-built in disruption pod and targeting array
-BS4
-Supersonic
-aerial assault
-transport of 6 FW's max
-2: long barreled cyclical ion blasters (5 shots each,not twin linked at 24" range)
-can carry 2 seekers
-90-120pts depending on options
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5000k (11-5-3) 6th Ed. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 12:45:10
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Bounding Assault Marine
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I was thinking something like:
11 all around
nose mounted burst cannon
Can be replaced with
-SMS
-TL FB
-TL plasma rifles
Winged weapons come stock with 2 MPs
Can be replaced with
-Burst Cannons (free)
-Plasma Rifles
-4 Seeker Missles (2 on each wing)
Or maybe a close low flying anti infantry flyer with TLed Burst cannons on the nose that can be replaced with TL flamers or TL FBs
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1850 points (buying new stuff)
Canceled, waiting for new dex
A battleforce, some guardians, a DA box, 2 banshee boxes,1 warp spider box,2 swooping hawk boxes, Found new love for the guys, debating on whether i should start or not |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 13:36:34
Subject: Re:Tau Flier: What you want
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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I want to see some sort of Tau!Vendetta thing. So a gunship/transporter with excellent firepower, good durability and good mobility. Something like:
Tau Gunship - 200pts - Fast Attack selection
BS 3, FA12, SA11, RA10
- 2 TL railguns on wing mounts
- 1 TL missle pod on hull mount
- Blacksun filter
- Decoy launchers
- Scouts
- Deep Strike
- Aerial Assault
- Supersonic
May transport 6 infantry or 3 suits. Suits may be dropped out as per Gravchute Insertion.
No options.
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My armies:
14000 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 13:53:03
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Drone without a Controller
London
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I like the vision of AtoMaki.
However, I think that a railgun on a transport might be a bit too much, maybe an equivalent to the rail riffle the pathfinders have and a couple of networked markerlights.
After all, the vendetta is less heavily armed than the leman russ, and the storm raven just slightly more than the land raider (but the late flyer is a Matt Ward joke).
So, unless the tau flyer is a really heavy flyer (on wich i don't count at all), i wouldn't expect it to be more armed than the hammerhead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 13:57:26
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Dispassionate Imperial Judge
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A transport that can hold/deploy (but not re-embark) Crisis Suits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 14:17:39
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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I want a fast, heavily armed transport. Armed with missile pods, Smart Missile Systems, possibly beefed up Burst Cannons or maybe an Ion Cannon (or improved Cyclic Ion Blaster). For it's transport capacity it should be able to carry 12 infantry models (plus any drones), 6 Stealth (plus drones) or 3 Crisis Suits (plus any drones). Possibly give it the option to sacrifice transport capacity to stick a twin-linked Railgun on it instead.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 14:25:25
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Watch we end up with a supersonic Pterodactyl ridden by Kroot . . .
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Tau and Space Wolves since 5th Edition. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:14:20
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I want a vehicle with unlimited seeker missiles, able to convert any markerlight hit into a missile without paying 10 points a pop. And have it grant a stealth field in a 6” radius.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:18:34
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Jefffar wrote:Watch we end up with a supersonic Pterodactyl ridden by Kroot . . .
You sir, win an exhalt
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11,100 pts, 7,000 pts
++ Heed my words for I am the Herald and we are the footsteps of doom. Interlopers, do we name you. Defilers of our
sacred earth. We have awoken to your primative species and will not tolerate your presence. Ours is the way of logic,
of cold hard reason: your irrationality, your human disease has no place in the necrontyr. Flesh is weak.
Surrender to the machine incarnate. Surrender and die. ++
Tuagh wrote: If you won't use a wrench, it isn't the bolt's fault that your hammer is useless. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:29:54
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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....I liked the Barracuda.
I'd make it better-armored, possibly slightly cheaper, and give it an extra missile pod to work with the current state of the game, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:38:07
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Longtime Dakkanaut
St. Louis, Missouri
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Jefffar wrote:Watch we end up with a supersonic Pterodactyl ridden by Kroot . . .
I'd be okay with this.
On topic, I'd love a Fast Attack flier with Railguns and Missile Pods. I'd be okay with some transport capacity, but limited ; they have Orca dropships for a reason lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/13 16:40:18
Subject: Tau Flier: What you want
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The barracuda from forge world would be nice for me, but also I would like the remora as an "body guard" option for it (or for other vehicules as well) something like the spearhead formation
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