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I thought it could be a fun and interesting way for people to fluff out their armies. Of course nobody likes it when a someone pulls out a tactical Marine with a bolter and says "this is a Devastator with a Plasma Cannon." but I wanted to know what you guys thought of using the Allies rule to expand on your army rather than a seemingly temporary alliance. Now I am also a supporter of WYSIWYG but a little imagination can go a long way when it comes to fleshing out an army.

For example:
If I was to use an Ork army with SM allies but instead of plopping some SMs down on a battlefield in amongst a group of angry Orks I were to use these guys as a counts as


The would for all intents and purposes play like a squad of SM but would give more personality and add to the visual aesthetics of the Orks.
I can easily imagine an Ork Warboss coming up with something along these lines.

"Dem Space Marines know 'ow to put up a good fight! So you gits are gonna take dat dere loot and you's is gonna get real tactical! OI! You listenin' to me!?!"

P.s. I posted something similar in Painting & Modeling but decided to move to 40KGD

I think orks can pull it off cause they can loot anything, so, as long as they have alot of space marine gear on them it would probably work.

Dont know how it would work out for other armies though, might get a tad confusing as to what is what.

As an Ork player I approve Real sneaky like

With counts as, as long as you have a friendly and open minded local gaming group, the skys the limit.

I see a flaw in your plan.

Orks with SM BS?

Bobthehero wrote:I see a flaw in your plan.

Orks with SM BS?

The orks as a race have a vary powerful tool at their disposal, their imagination! ork vehicles and weapons work because orks believe they will work. ork vehicles by all standards should not work, But with the powers of the ork minds it does!

So if a ork thinks hard enough that he is a space marine, who's to say he is not lol?

Bobthehero wrote:I see a flaw in your plan.

Orks with SM BS?

They simply shoot twice as often.

Jidmah wrote:

Bobthehero wrote:I see a flaw in your plan.

Orks with SM BS?

They simply shoot twice as often.

More dakka!?

I would gladly play against someone who fluffed out their army like this. A interesting conversion for a cool counts-as idea is much better then your "marine with bolter = marine with PC" proxy example. Have at it.

Salamanders w/space wolves - have lizards as wolf packs, dino mounted SM as thunderwolf cavalry

As someone who's proxied a milk bottle for an eldar tank, I say go nuts

Joey wrote:As someone who's proxied a milk bottle for an eldar tank, I say go nuts

Seriously? That's modelling for advatange right there!