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Was wondering if any of you with a 6th edition rulebook could enlighten me to any USR changes that may affect Crons.

Thanks

3 glances kill most tanks. your gauss glances on 6s. Thats all you need to know.

Warrior bricks make a triumphant return!

Wraiths kick even more ass!

Bargelords get less sweep range but can assault while inside the barge!

Destructeks are even better at AT!

That's just off the top of my head.

You know all those codexes whining about being nerfed? You're not one of them, enjoy

A bunch of USR's have changed, but I'll just speak to the ones that matter most:

'No Retreat' wounds are no longer a part of Fearless. This is a big boost to Scarabs, and a mini-boost for Wraiths.

Night Fight now gives a +1 or +2 to your Cover Save depending on your distance from what's firing. So, hiding in the dark is a different game entirely. Altogether, it's another boost, especially for our vehicles (as all skimmers get the 'Jink' USR).

Preferred Enemy re-rolls all 1's (to hit and to wound) in shooting and assault. Destroyers are a lot more useful for that. Destroyer Lords now confer their PE rule to attached units...so, combine them with Wraiths and they're over the top.

Then a few other little things. Smash lets Spyders make 1/2 attacks at S10. Hammer of Wrath lets our Jump Infantry (and Command Barges) get some extra I10 hits in CC. Supersonic means Scythes now have a minimum move distance (indeed Flyers work much differently). New cover rules make Stealth a much more useful power for the C'tan Shards.

Really, nothing gets worse for Necrons. Everything gets a little better. Maybe I should've just quoted Stoffer and left it at that.

Haywire is going to be a beast; upgrade to Harbingers of Storm, use the voltaic staff and blow up vehicles.

Necrons rock now. Just take a bunch of scythes and you will be able to compete with almost any army (well, maybe not against a 9-vendetta army but....).




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Also, why is everyone so hung up on killing tanks?

You do realize that the meta will be shifting towards flyers and TEQ's (2+ save models), right?

Tanks are what dominate my FLGS atm, there is only 3 armies there that have access to flyers.

One is Guard (one player with crap tonnes of Russes & a vendetta, one with three vendettas + a Hydra squadron)

the other is BA yes he has a Storm Raven

And nids, but the guy dosent like flyrants, he preffers the Swarmlord AFAIK

IHateNids wrote:Tanks are what dominate my FLGS atm, there is only 3 armies there that have access to flyers.

One is Guard (one player with crap tonnes of Russes & a vendetta, one with three vendettas + a Hydra squadron)

the other is BA yes he has a Storm Raven

And nids, but the guy dosent like flyrants, he preffers the Swarmlord AFAIK

That will all change if they want to keep winning.

IHateNids wrote:Tanks are what dominate my FLGS atm, there is only 3 armies there that have access to flyers.

One is Guard (one player with crap tonnes of Russes & a vendetta, one with three vendettas + a Hydra squadron)

the other is BA yes he has a Storm Raven

And nids, but the guy dosent like flyrants, he preffers the Swarmlord AFAIK

This statement is inccorect.

I love flying monsters. Prepare to be vector striked.

Sorry Wolfie, that was assumption on my part because you made the Swarmlord as opposed to Flyrant

Also you shall find that there are only 2 armies in our group with fliers but 4 players. Did you forget about me or did you forget about Nathan? But eys warriors do now rock as does most necron stuff. Remember the meta will shift. You are hung up on tanks as that is 5ht meta and you are looking for new ways to kill them as is everyone. However, hybrid and footslogs will become the most commonly used lists now so you may wat to worry about infantry killign so that way you will have adapted to the suspected meta befor it arrives.

I mentioned BA, & nathan plays Blendernaughts, not Storm Ravens (correct me if i'm wrong)

I know the meta will shift, but Jacob & Elliot are still gonna be using LRs + rhinos aren't they

Yes your wrong. He used a Stormraven at the weekend and 2 on the Sunday

You are wrong. He was using two Ravens at the weekend.

ALL THE RAGE OF A THOUSAND SUNS/SONS.

I WAS BEATEN TO THE CHOP!!!

I didn't see his army at all.

You played on the table next to him.

I was focusing on my game

jy2 wrote:Necrons rock now. Just take a bunch of scythes and you will be able to compete with almost any army (well, maybe not against a 9-vendetta army but....).

Even the potential 12 scythes Crons can take?

whigwam wrote:Really, nothing gets worse for Necrons. Everything gets a little better. Maybe I should've just quoted Stoffer and left it at that.

Minor nerf to sword 'n' board lychguard. Power swords are now AP3, so Lychguards have little hope against termies.

Eh... Makes for an okay counter charge (warscythe Lych that is) wait for the termi's to assault some unit then send the Lychguard in to deal some heavy hits before getting creamed...

King Pariah wrote:Eh... Makes for an okay counter charge (warscythe Lych that is) wait for the termi's to assault some unit then send the Lychguard in to deal some heavy hits before getting creamed...

I used my Sword & board as a tarpit anyway usually, so no real changes to my tactics

IHateNids wrote:

King Pariah wrote:Eh... Makes for an okay counter charge (warscythe Lych that is) wait for the termi's to assault some unit then send the Lychguard in to deal some heavy hits before getting creamed...

I used my Sword & board as a tarpit anyway usually, so no real changes to my tactics

That's an expensive tarpit.

Tell me Nids, how do you ''use them as a tarpit''.

Last game I saw you use them, they got surrounded, and munched. and the game before. and before.

DexKivuli wrote:

whigwam wrote:Really, nothing gets worse for Necrons. Everything gets a little better. Maybe I should've just quoted Stoffer and left it at that.

Minor nerf to sword 'n' board lychguard. Power swords are now AP3, so Lychguards have little hope against termies.

Nerf a unit that's not been used before anyway.

GW like a baus

All-Flyer armies will auto-lose. They have to start in reserve and if your entire army is in flyers you have nothing on the table at the end of Turn 1. Therefore you lose.

The only thing in the Necron dex that didn't get a huge boost is Tesla...which was awesome already.

I have had 2 games so far with 6h Ed, one vs Crimson Fists and another today vs BA. Tabled both of them (admittedly no flyers no either side)

RatWolf wrote:Tell me Nids, how do you ''use them as a tarpit''.

Last game I saw you use them, they got surrounded, and munched. and the game before. and before.

Everyone has bad rolls sometimes (me moreso than others). You can ask Jacob, he will back me up that they've tied up fis Freddy-Nators for three game turns before

Played a game today using the following:

10x Warriors
1x Ghost Arc

10x Immortals
1x Night Scythe

10x Immortals
1x Night Scythe

1x Doom Scythe
1x Doom Scythe

5x Canoptek Wraiths
3x Whip Coils

1x Destroyer Lord
MSS
SW

Tabled my opponent. Was fairly impressed with the fliers. Especially liked moving up the Night Scythe, pooping out 10 Immortals, and unloading with everything. I might swap out the Ghost Ark for a Bastion or Aegis defense line or something but this is a pretty good list for 1500 imo.

Praxiss wrote:All-Flyer armies will auto-lose. They have to start in reserve and if your entire army is in flyers you have nothing on the table at the end of Turn 1. Therefore you lose.

So you start a few of your troops disembarked... You want Solar Pulses on the board anyway.

Praxiss wrote:The only thing in the Necron dex that didn't get a huge boost is Tesla...which was awesome already.

I think Tesla definitely got better. Snap-firing only hits on 6's...and Tesla does what when you roll a 6? Now an Annihilation Barge can move 12" and get an average 3 S7 hits, or do the same Stunned, or firing at a Flyer. And that's not counting the underslung gun either (which should really always be a Tesla Cannon as of 6th, IMO). Tesla Carbines will also be nasty for Overwatch

I am still a fan of the gauss cannon on the barge. Played a game yesterday and my 2 barges took out a full SM Assault squad in one round of shooting. Each Gauss Cannon took out one marine firing as Snapshot (no armour save).

I've only played 2 games so far, both against marines (Crimson Fists and BA), tabled them both. gauss is a killer. My fave moment so far has to be facing down a charging BA dread and wrecking it with Overwatch fire.