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As someone just getting into Necrons, what units of ours are best/least bad?

Dark angel a ton
Harlequins, 2000 points
Dark eldar 5000 points
IG: 2500 points
Crons: 3000 points
Slaanesh Demons: 1500 points
 
   
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Just starting out you can't go wrong with the Start Collecting and by the time you have it all painted and based we should have our codex or at least previews out so then we will know what will be our most effective units. So far the only stand out is Tessy Immortals with My Will Be Done on them but once they run up against -1 to -2 to hit armies they go back to being very mediocre just like the rest of army.

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StevetheDestroyeOfWorlds wrote:
As someone just getting into Necrons, what units of ours are best/least bad?


Page 1 has a good breakdown of our units general quality,

The Start Collecting box is pretty good, and supplementing with Immortals works well for game sometime around 1k.
   
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StevetheDestroyeOfWorlds wrote:
As someone just getting into Necrons, what units of ours are best/least bad?

I would caution you about buying some of the more "exotic" stuff right now.
We're due for an update (new codex) pretty soon (next few months), so may see a big shift in what is good and what is less good.

Immortals might be safe. Warriors wouldn't be a horrible choice (though be aware that they're not that fantastic at the moment. Hopefully that changes soon).
Scarabs have more or less always been decent. Wraiths as well. Can't see GW wrecking either of them in the update (fingers crossed).

Probably hold off on things like Destroyers, Praetorians, etc. The vehicles, too.
Tomb Blades are alright at the moment, but they're one of those entries that oscillates from great to garbage with each new codex, so maybe hold for the time being.

 
   
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StevetheDestroyeOfWorlds wrote:
As someone just getting into Necrons, what units of ours are best/least bad?

Hold off till the next batch of 40k Codices get announced. It would be a shame to buy lots of models before our Codex gets released as you might just end up with hot garbage.

However, you Can't go wrong with 2 Start Collecting boxes as it will net you 24 Warriors, 6 Scarabs, 2 Overlords (I converted one into a Cryptek) and 2 Triarch Stalkers. Immortals would be safe to buy as both version will most likely keep the same stats and rules. Everything else is up for debate when the Codex gets released because anything could change.

I have a Youtube. Rage Against The Imperium. Here is the link if you are interested - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WxDMsMyI7WcChiSfApB4Q

Necrons - Legion of The Silent King - [756-809 PL, 15038-16076pts]
Spoiler:

Unbound Army (Faction) (Necrons)
HQ
Anrakyr the Traveller
Catacomb Command Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon, Warscythe - 3
Cryptek
Selections: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light - 2
Cryptek
Selections: Chronometron, Staff of Light - 3
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Staff of Light
Illuminor Szeras
Imotekh the Stormlord
Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Nemesor Zahndrekh
Orikan the Diviner
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Voidscythe
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Warscythe - 3
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Staff of Light
Overlord
Selections: Hyperphase Sword, Resurrection Orb
Trazyn the Infinite
Vargard Obyron

Troops

Immortals
Selections: Gauss Blaster, 15x Immortal
Immortals
Selections: 15x Immortal, Tesla Carbine
Immortals
Necron Warriors
Selections: 100x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors

Elites

C'tan Shard of the Deceiver
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer
Canoptek Tomb Stalker
Deathmarks
Selections: 25x Deathmark
Flayed Ones
Selections: 20x Flayed One
Lychguard
Selections: Hyperphase Sword and Dispersion Shield, 10x Lychguard
Lychguard
Selections: 6x Lychguard, Warscythe
Triarch Praetorians
Selections: Rod of Covenant, 10x Triarch Praetorian
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Heat Ray*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Particle Shredder*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon*

Fast Attack

Canoptek Scarabs
Selections: 63x Canoptek Scarab Swarm
Canoptek Scarabs
Canoptek Tomb Sentinel
Canoptek Wraiths
Selections: 3x Canoptek Wraith
Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith w/ Transdimensional Beamer
Selections: 3x Transdimensional Beamer
6x Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils
Selections: 6x Whip Coils
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Tomb Blades
Selections: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
Two Gauss Blasters - 9
Heavy Support
Annihilation Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon - 3*
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Doomsday Ark
Doomsday Ark
3x Heavy Destroyer
Monolith
Tesseract Ark
Two Tesla Cannons
Selections: 2x Tesla Cannon
Transcendent C'tan

Flyer
Doom Scythe - 4*
Night Scythe - 4*


Dedicated Transport
Ghost Ark - 3*

Lord of War
Gauss Pylon
Obelisk

* - This unit is magnetized so can be either model e.g. Doomscythe or Nightscythe
 
   
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Well to be fair, all the Codices have made like 90% of their units playable, so there's a good chance you can buy something and it'll be good when the book comes out... assuming it's as good as all the previous books. Assumptions, though.
   
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 Odrankt wrote:
Hold off till the next batch of 40k Codices get announced.

I wouldn't be surprised if they make this announcement during the Las Vegas Open on the 26-28 of this month.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Anyone know if the battlescribe is up to date on the unit point/PL prices with the Chapter approved release?

Haven't used it in a couple of months but was interested in trying some new builds.


I was almost tempted to start buying orks and modeling/painting them with a french theme.

If only so I could begin the pardonné waghh.  
   
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 Ghaz wrote:
 Odrankt wrote:
Hold off till the next batch of 40k Codices get announced.

I wouldn't be surprised if they make this announcement during the Las Vegas Open on the 26-28 of this month.


Open Day is this weekend, I would expect something then.
   
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Requizen wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
 Odrankt wrote:
Hold off till the next batch of 40k Codices get announced.

I wouldn't be surprised if they make this announcement during the Las Vegas Open on the 26-28 of this month.


Open Day is this weekend, I would expect something then.

Leave it to GW to leave that off their own Events calendar

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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 Ghaz wrote:
Requizen wrote:
 Ghaz wrote:
 Odrankt wrote:
Hold off till the next batch of 40k Codices get announced.

I wouldn't be surprised if they make this announcement during the Las Vegas Open on the 26-28 of this month.


Open Day is this weekend, I would expect something then.

Leave it to GW to leave that off their own Events calendar


I'm sure they'll add it in the FAQ/Errata.

2750 Unliving Legion of the Zarith Dynasty
840 Imperial Knights of House Janis
2000 Khorne Bloodbound of the Skullfiend Tribe (Aqshy)
2000 Tzeentch Arcanites of the Cult of Searing Light (Hysh)
3000 Slaves to Darkness of the Legion of Rusted Chains (Allpoints/Azyr)
2500 Sylvaneth of the Seelie Court (Ghyran)
 
   
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Lothmar wrote:
Anyone know if the battlescribe is up to date on the unit point/PL prices with the Chapter approved release?

Haven't used it in a couple of months but was interested in trying some new builds.



It is. The two point changes for necrons are updated.

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Thanks Tor.


I was almost tempted to start buying orks and modeling/painting them with a french theme.

If only so I could begin the pardonné waghh.  
   
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Lothmar wrote:
Thanks Tor.



They have also added the relic and new warlord trait

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Whats everyone's favorite "Tactic" for the moment? I tried the Zahndrekh Obyron/Cryptek-VoD combo with 10 Lychguard. It's good when it works but it's definitely not worth 500-600 just for a reliable alpha strike. Probably going to use VoD to deploy when in combat or defensively/wisely to get bjects late game or line breaker.

Probably going use Deceiver + 1-3 Gauss Immortals until we get our Codex or some form of update.

I have a Youtube. Rage Against The Imperium. Here is the link if you are interested - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WxDMsMyI7WcChiSfApB4Q

Necrons - Legion of The Silent King - [756-809 PL, 15038-16076pts]
Spoiler:

Unbound Army (Faction) (Necrons)
HQ
Anrakyr the Traveller
Catacomb Command Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon, Warscythe - 3
Cryptek
Selections: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light - 2
Cryptek
Selections: Chronometron, Staff of Light - 3
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Staff of Light
Illuminor Szeras
Imotekh the Stormlord
Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Nemesor Zahndrekh
Orikan the Diviner
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Voidscythe
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Warscythe - 3
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Staff of Light
Overlord
Selections: Hyperphase Sword, Resurrection Orb
Trazyn the Infinite
Vargard Obyron

Troops

Immortals
Selections: Gauss Blaster, 15x Immortal
Immortals
Selections: 15x Immortal, Tesla Carbine
Immortals
Necron Warriors
Selections: 100x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors

Elites

C'tan Shard of the Deceiver
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer
Canoptek Tomb Stalker
Deathmarks
Selections: 25x Deathmark
Flayed Ones
Selections: 20x Flayed One
Lychguard
Selections: Hyperphase Sword and Dispersion Shield, 10x Lychguard
Lychguard
Selections: 6x Lychguard, Warscythe
Triarch Praetorians
Selections: Rod of Covenant, 10x Triarch Praetorian
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Heat Ray*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Particle Shredder*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon*

Fast Attack

Canoptek Scarabs
Selections: 63x Canoptek Scarab Swarm
Canoptek Scarabs
Canoptek Tomb Sentinel
Canoptek Wraiths
Selections: 3x Canoptek Wraith
Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith w/ Transdimensional Beamer
Selections: 3x Transdimensional Beamer
6x Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils
Selections: 6x Whip Coils
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Tomb Blades
Selections: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
Two Gauss Blasters - 9
Heavy Support
Annihilation Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon - 3*
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Doomsday Ark
Doomsday Ark
3x Heavy Destroyer
Monolith
Tesseract Ark
Two Tesla Cannons
Selections: 2x Tesla Cannon
Transcendent C'tan

Flyer
Doom Scythe - 4*
Night Scythe - 4*


Dedicated Transport
Ghost Ark - 3*

Lord of War
Gauss Pylon
Obelisk

* - This unit is magnetized so can be either model e.g. Doomscythe or Nightscythe
 
   
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Im kind of tempted to try a CCB with the new less damage warlord trait combined with also fielding Toholk to give the CCB 1d3 heal as well.

But not sure what all to field with this tbh...

I was almost tempted to start buying orks and modeling/painting them with a french theme.

If only so I could begin the pardonné waghh.  
   
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I tend to include one or two units of tesla immortals, almost nomatter what.

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Tor - isn't that assuming you have an equal number or greater MWBD's available to use?

IE if you have 2x overlords you might field 2-3 units of Teslas (one extra for the inevetiable loss or best unit in position to take advantage of the effect) but if you were fielding more Immortals you'd probably field them as Gauss for that Ap support on heartier targets etc.


I was almost tempted to start buying orks and modeling/painting them with a french theme.

If only so I could begin the pardonné waghh.  
   
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Lothmar wrote:
Im kind of tempted to try a CCB with the new less damage warlord trait combined with also fielding Toholk to give the CCB 1d3 heal as well.

But not sure what all to field with this tbh...


I heard that someone was talking to Phil Kelly at heat 2 for the Warhammer GT at Warhammer World and he asked about the new trait and the CCB. According to Phil Kelly you minus the damage first e.g. 3 becomes 2 and then you QS the damage. Not sure how reliable that source was but I am going to wait till an FaQ/Errata comes out.

Toholk + CCB is never a bad combination.

I have a Youtube. Rage Against The Imperium. Here is the link if you are interested - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0WxDMsMyI7WcChiSfApB4Q

Necrons - Legion of The Silent King - [756-809 PL, 15038-16076pts]
Spoiler:

Unbound Army (Faction) (Necrons)
HQ
Anrakyr the Traveller
Catacomb Command Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon, Warscythe - 3
Cryptek
Selections: Canoptek Cloak, Staff of Light - 2
Cryptek
Selections: Chronometron, Staff of Light - 3
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Destroyer Lord
Selections: Staff of Light
Illuminor Szeras
Imotekh the Stormlord
Lord
Selections: Warscythe
Nemesor Zahndrekh
Orikan the Diviner
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Voidscythe
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Warscythe - 3
Overlord
Selections: Resurrection Orb, Staff of Light
Overlord
Selections: Hyperphase Sword, Resurrection Orb
Trazyn the Infinite
Vargard Obyron

Troops

Immortals
Selections: Gauss Blaster, 15x Immortal
Immortals
Selections: 15x Immortal, Tesla Carbine
Immortals
Necron Warriors
Selections: 100x Necron Warrior
Necron Warriors

Elites

C'tan Shard of the Deceiver
C'tan Shard of the Nightbringer
Canoptek Tomb Stalker
Deathmarks
Selections: 25x Deathmark
Flayed Ones
Selections: 20x Flayed One
Lychguard
Selections: Hyperphase Sword and Dispersion Shield, 10x Lychguard
Lychguard
Selections: 6x Lychguard, Warscythe
Triarch Praetorians
Selections: Rod of Covenant, 10x Triarch Praetorian
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Heat Ray*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Particle Shredder*
Triarch Stalker
Selections: Twin Heavy Gauss Cannon*

Fast Attack

Canoptek Scarabs
Selections: 63x Canoptek Scarab Swarm
Canoptek Scarabs
Canoptek Tomb Sentinel
Canoptek Wraiths
Selections: 3x Canoptek Wraith
Canoptek Wraiths
3x Canoptek Wraith w/ Transdimensional Beamer
Selections: 3x Transdimensional Beamer
6x Canoptek Wraith w/ Whip Coils
Selections: 6x Whip Coils
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Destroyers
5x Destroyer
Selections: 5x Gauss Cannon
Tomb Blades
Selections: Shadowloom, Shieldvanes
Two Gauss Blasters - 9
Heavy Support
Annihilation Barge
Selections: Gauss Cannon - 3*
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Canoptek Spyder
Selections: Fabricator Claw Array, Gloom Prism
Doomsday Ark
Doomsday Ark
3x Heavy Destroyer
Monolith
Tesseract Ark
Two Tesla Cannons
Selections: 2x Tesla Cannon
Transcendent C'tan

Flyer
Doom Scythe - 4*
Night Scythe - 4*


Dedicated Transport
Ghost Ark - 3*

Lord of War
Gauss Pylon
Obelisk

* - This unit is magnetized so can be either model e.g. Doomscythe or Nightscythe
 
   
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Ord -

Yeah if it turns out that the trait makes QS less effective then im guessing you wont see it used much, but until then I intend to run it QS first and then DR after.


I was almost tempted to start buying orks and modeling/painting them with a french theme.

If only so I could begin the pardonné waghh.  
   
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Texas

I'm looking to get some necrons. I am going to wait until the codex drops, probably just get some warriors and immortals and lord for now. Maybe some scarabs too. I dont have any of the old codexs so I don't know what schemes each Dynasty is. Can anyone tell me what scheme is in this video. Go to about the 5:50 mark.

Also, what is the traditional black/metal/green scheme that GW has on their website and boxes?

Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFSTE1yzBeg&index=2&list=PLw8pVOyn9GVb-1uK-QpuJxv3At4IMyBD4

9030+
6665+
8500+
1500+
1250+
2000+ IK

Dwarfs: 4000
Empire: 4000
Bretonian: 3500
Goblins: 500

DakkaSwap Successful Transactions: cormadepanda, pretre x3, LibertineIX, Lbcwanabe, privateer4hire, Cruentus (swap), Scatwick2 (swap)

*I'm on Bartertown as Dynas 
   
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UK

Dynas just remember that:

1) Your paint scheme has no effect on what army you play as. You can field bright red ultramarines and bright blue blood angles if you want

2) Outside of Space Marines and their years and years of marketing; most gamers have no idea of other faction official schemes. Even players of factions have no idea of the official schemes of alternate factions.

3) Chances are multi-faction combined armies (even if its just two factions ) might well be superior to single faction armies.

4) Chances are that you'll want to vary what faction based upon what army focus you build too; so you could well be jumping between two or three factions depending on what army builds you use.

In short don't worry "too" much about having authentic faction painted models if you don't want too. It's purely a player driven choice.

   
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Dynas - if you can help it avoid the lord model (unless things change in the codex drop). Either that or proxy it if it's part of a box set instead of an overlord/cryptek which are better leadership atm. It's only real use is if you need as cheap a hq as possible, although the morale reroll makes taking it slightly more palatable, but be careful when you use it so you dont make a small loss a big loss. *chuckle* (ex: You lose 8 and roll a 3 and lose 1 guy on morale. It's usually better to just take the 1 lost unit instead of risking the higher odds of getting more losses. )

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I was almost tempted to start buying orks and modeling/painting them with a french theme.

If only so I could begin the pardonné waghh.  
   
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Texas

I think its the lord with rez orb.

@overread, i know color scheme doesn't matter, but I really like the green and I am tired of painting blue (smurfs army) and prurple (nids). I also like to try and keep to the fluff, so while I would not care if someone took red marines to play as ultramarines, I personally like to follow the fluff.

9030+
6665+
8500+
1500+
1250+
2000+ IK

Dwarfs: 4000
Empire: 4000
Bretonian: 3500
Goblins: 500

DakkaSwap Successful Transactions: cormadepanda, pretre x3, LibertineIX, Lbcwanabe, privateer4hire, Cruentus (swap), Scatwick2 (swap)

*I'm on Bartertown as Dynas 
   
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UK

One a question of painting anyone painted their warriors without the weapon arms attached and if so any tips on how to get the warriors arms to line up well so that you can put arm to wrist on the gun so that they can be easily glued on after painting.

   
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If you want official paint schemes, check out the Paint App. It's unironically really freaking awesome, and you can look at how they do the Sautehk models on there (it's pretty straightforward). The Dark Green paint scheme is how they do most of the Sautekh vehicles.
   
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Florence, KY

Requizen wrote:
If you want official paint schemes, check out the Paint App. It's unironically really freaking awesome, and you can look at how they do the Sautehk models on there (it's pretty straightforward). The Dark Green paint scheme is how they do most of the Sautekh vehicles.

It helps that Ducan has done a tutorial for the vehicles as well.

Spoiler:


Personally I like the Novokh paint scheme.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
Made in jp
Proud Triarch Praetorian





 Dynas wrote:
Can anyone tell me what scheme is in this video. Go to about the 5:50 mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFSTE1yzBeg&index=2&list=PLw8pVOyn9GVb-1uK-QpuJxv3At4IMyBD4

Also, what is the traditional black/metal/green scheme that GW has on their website and boxes?

Quick check of the video:
Description says they're from the "Nefritai Dynasty" (a home brew dynasty). Looks like silver, white, bronze, "bone," green, black.
Compare here for official GW names of colors-
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Tb5RNCujmA4/T2zt064BGSI/AAAAAAAACRI/vSfwoDVBOz8/s1600/m2320032a_Citadel_Conversion_Chart.jpg

GW's Necron poster boy Dynasty on their site is typically the Sautekh Dynasty (Imotekh's one). They're pretty easy to find color schemes on via google image search.

 
   
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Dynas: If you want to go best Necron dynasty go red white and blue for Americrons.

I was almost tempted to start buying orks and modeling/painting them with a french theme.

If only so I could begin the pardonné waghh.  
   
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Proud Triarch Praetorian





Lothmar wrote:
red white and blue for Americrons.

Or Union Jackrons
Or Francrons
Or Australicrons
Or Necrussians
Or South Kronreans
Or Norcrons
Or

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