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Hi all I had a quick question I'm new to all this KS business but I've wanted Kingdom death for a while now. I ended up backing the Lantern pledge at $250 for the 1.5 core game.

I just wanted to double check because people here seem to be spending a lot more money than I am, this will get me at some point the original boxed game right? None of the expansions and stuff I know that but just the box standard one that I can play a game with?

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That's right, it's all the expansions and extras that start to mount up into the insane amounts some people have dropped on it

I say that like that $600 - $700 across the two kickstarters that I've spent was a rational decision :/
   
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That's a relief I was worrying for a second!

I wanted to maybe add an expansion or two at some point but didn't realize you were supposed to do that before the KS ended, ah well apparently they're up for retail at some point in the far future I can just wait.

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GKCM27 wrote:
That's a relief I was worrying for a second!

I wanted to maybe add an expansion or two at some point but didn't realize you were supposed to do that before the KS ended, ah well apparently they're up for retail at some point in the far future I can just wait.


It is very likely that you will have a chance to add stuff when the Pledge manager opens up, for people to allocate what they want. I wouldn't worry about it too much!

If you are deciding what Expansion to add, from the Old ones I would look at the Gorm and Dragon King.

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If i can I'm adding the Dragon King for sure, mainly because that model is awesome, but yes I've heard good things about the Gorm one. Too many things to buy with too little money!

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Why does the Gorm Expansion seemingly get so much love?

It is one of my least favorite looking models.

Does it offer good gamplay differences then?
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
Why does the Gorm Expansion seemingly get so much love?

It is one of my least favorite looking models.

Does it offer good gamplay differences then?


It's the only expansion monster you can hunt from the beginning of the game, so gives a much-needed break from endless White Lions, and the gear is apparently very good.
   
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Shame the model is less than stellar, so I'll never get it. Is there a list of the monsters and their nodes somewhere?
   
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UK

I've seen several these two seem to be the most repeated (I've added the Dragon goblin and ivory dragon to both)

1-White Lion, Gorm, Frogdog
2-Spidicules, Oblivion Mosquito, Screaming Antelope
3-Flower Knight, Black Knight, Dragon Goblin
3.5(As in he's said he's not sure if it'll be 3 or 4)-Nightmare Ram
4-Phoenix, Sunstalker, Dragon King, DBK Gryphon, Lion God, Boosted Dragon Goblin
5-Screaming Antelope, Ivory Dragon

These are pure conjecture for the old expansions and core monsters based on what Poots has said about Nodes so far


This is my understanding from the clues released so far by Poots, may not be 100% accurate

labels: CO= core, CU = current , NE = New, * = Not 100% sure
Quarries Nodes:
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Node 1: WL (CO), Grom (CU), Frogdog (NE)
Node 2: Antelope (CO), Spidicules(CU), Oblivion Mosquito (NE)
Node 3: Flower Knight (CU). Nightmare Ram (NE)*, Black Knight (NE), Dragon Goblin (NE)
Node 4: Phoenix (CO), Dragon King (CU), Dung Beattle Knight (CU), Sunstalker (CU), Gryphon (NE), Boosted Dragon Goblin (NE)
Node 5: Lion God (CU)*, Screaming God (NE), Ivory Dragon (NE)

Nemesis Nodes
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Node 1: Butcher (CO), Pariah (NE)
Node 2: Kingsman (CO), Slenderman (CU)
Node 3: Hand (CO),
Node "W" (additional fights - Wanderers*): Lion Knight(CU)*, Manhunter (CU)*.

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Thanks for that, hopefully it's all explained simply at some point!

I only made my manhunter and lion knight yesterday to be fair, so it's not like I'm in a rush.

The Gold Smoke Knight And Dragon can substitute in for the watcher too right?
   
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Vorian wrote:
Thanks for that, hopefully it's all explained simply at some point!

I only made my manhunter and lion knight yesterday to be fair, so it's not like I'm in a rush.

The Gold Smoke Knight And Dragon can substitute in for the watcher too right?


Yes, both add 5 years to the campaign and act as the final big bad (but not sure if this is instead of or in addition to the watcher)

 
   
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I've never had that problem with payments coming directly from Kickstarter - but afterwards in Pledge Managers, well, that's another thing!
   
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Strangely I have 3 pending transactions from KS on my CC; two for some seemingly random (but identical) amount and a third a day later for the actual pledge amount. While I'm sure at some point the correct one will be applied and the other two dismissed, it makes me wonder if a similar pattern happened to others and if that's why some CC's are flagging it.
   
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 JBSchroeds wrote:
My CC company just sent me an e-mail that my pledge was flagged for potential fraud and I had to go confirm the purchase with them. Wouldn't be surprised if this happens to a lot of people. So keep an eye out and make sure the payment actually goes through.


I called my CC company on Saturday morning just to let them know a large charge for a certain amount was incoming. Didn't appear to have any problems.
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
Why does the Gorm Expansion seemingly get so much love?

It is one of my least favorite looking models.

Does it offer good gamplay differences then?


Armor sets and resources along with the base box batch. I think there was a settlement add on as well.



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And a maniac boss-fight that is as deadly as interesting as a substitute for the lion in early game.
   
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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I've seen several these two seem to be the most repeated (I've added the Dragon goblin and ivory dragon to both)

1-White Lion, Gorm, Frogdog
2-Spidicules, Oblivion Mosquito, Screaming Antelope
3-Flower Knight, Black Knight, Dragon Goblin
3.5(As in he's said he's not sure if it'll be 3 or 4)-Nightmare Ram
4-Phoenix, Sunstalker, Dragon King, DBK Gryphon, Lion God, Boosted Dragon Goblin
5-Screaming Antelope, Ivory Dragon

These are pure conjecture for the old expansions and core monsters based on what Poots has said about Nodes so far


This is my understanding from the clues released so far by Poots, may not be 100% accurate

labels: CO= core, CU = current , NE = New, * = Not 100% sure
Quarries Nodes:
---------------
Node 1: WL (CO), Grom (CU), Frogdog (NE)
Node 2: Antelope (CO), Spidicules(CU), Oblivion Mosquito (NE)
Node 3: Flower Knight (CU). Nightmare Ram (NE)*, Black Knight (NE), Dragon Goblin (NE)
Node 4: Phoenix (CO), Dragon King (CU), Dung Beattle Knight (CU), Sunstalker (CU), Gryphon (NE), Boosted Dragon Goblin (NE)
Node 5: Lion God (CU)*, Screaming God (NE), Ivory Dragon (NE)

Nemesis Nodes
----------
Node 1: Butcher (CO), Pariah (NE)
Node 2: Kingsman (CO), Slenderman (CU)
Node 3: Hand (CO),
Node "W" (additional fights - Wanderers*): Lion Knight(CU)*, Manhunter (CU)*.


Hey Man,

This is mostly accurate, except I believe the Phoenix is considered a Node 3 monster, while there is currently no base game equivalent to Node 4.


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 Mymearan wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
Why does the Gorm Expansion seemingly get so much love?

It is one of my least favorite looking models.

Does it offer good gamplay differences then?


It's the only expansion monster you can hunt from the beginning of the game, so gives a much-needed break from endless White Lions, and the gear is apparently very good.


This, and it adds some great stuff to the settlements as well.

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 PsychoticStorm wrote:
And a maniac boss-fight that is as deadly as interesting as a substitute for the lion in early game.


Frogdog might end up being the new Gorm! And $10 cheaper to boot.
   
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I think "Gormite" makes some pretty nice gear though, right?

Along with the other Gorm...drops?
   
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Well, in my attempt to keep the price hidden I just told my wife i backed the game.
Then showed her the kickstarter page (which obviously has the price on it).

Derp.
I'm banned from kickstarter now. :(
   
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TechRaptor have a quick post KS interview with Poots

https://techraptor.net/content/kingdom-death-monster-1-5-becomes-fourth-highest-funded-kickstarter-ever

TR: How does it feel to have the fourth highest funded Kickstarter ever?

AP: Surreal. I certainly need some downtime to prepare for the huge amount of exciting work we have ahead of us!

TR: The King, Scribe and other parts of the cancelled Lantern Festival didn’t make an appearance. Are there plans to add them to the game at a later date?

AP: No comment.

TR: The much requested Ringtail Fox didn’t make an appearance this campaign, and from the sounds of it, it will have as much content as the core game itself. Will we see anything Ringtail Fox related before this KS is finished, or will people have to wait until 2020?

AP: I am not sure at this point. My priority is now focused on the new round of promises we made this campaign. There are miniatures to make, manufacturing deals to finalize, tons of content to design, an onslaught of emails to answer. Ringtail Fox is going to have to wait.

TR: Can you elaborate on the core/upgrade pack delay just a bit?

AP: Oh yeah. That one is pretty simple. Before the campaign launched I got the long-winded manufacturing process on 10,000 core games and 5,000 upgrade packs. It looks like we now need 25,000 core games tho! So yeah, the physical delay of making more things!

TR: Any other comments?

AP: THANK YOU EVERYONE!!!!!! I WANT TO HIDE FROM THE WORLD BUT I PROMISE I WONT! LOL
   
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Is there any way to obtain the cards and rules only to the old expansions? Or just buy a PDF and print myself ?

Eg GORM I really don't need to have model wise but would love to be able to use in my campaign. . ..
   
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NC

VicVox wrote:
Is there any way to obtain the cards and rules only to the old expansions? Or just buy a PDF and print myself ?

Eg GORM I really don't need to have model wise but would love to be able to use in my campaign. . ..
Officially, no. Poots mentioned that he tried to sell rules-only versions of the game at a convention, but people bought the model versions of the game anyways. There was too little interest in a rules only version and the plan was abandoned.
   
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VicVox wrote:
Is there any way to obtain the cards and rules only to the old expansions? Or just buy a PDF and print myself ?

Eg GORM I really don't need to have model wise but would love to be able to use in my campaign. . ..


Some people are more than happy to sell or trade away their rules. Ask around. (Mine are spoken for already.)

   
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I wish Spidicules got a resculpt I'm not too happy about having to pick him for the Abyssal Woods expansion.


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 PurpleEcho wrote:
I wish Spidicules got a resculpt I'm not too happy about having to pick him for the Abyssal Woods expansion.



He got a reprint, I don't think Poots will resculpt any of his models.
   
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 primalexile wrote:
He got a reprint, I don't think Poots will resculpt any of his models.


Gryphon is being resculpted, although from the resin version, not an existing plastic.

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I doubt poots will want the cost involved in resculpting and retooling for a new spidicules. Personally I don't think it is that bad.

 
   
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Loopstah wrote:
I doubt poots will want the cost involved in resculpting and retooling for a new spidicules. Personally I don't think it is that bad.


You mean a model so impractical, and mis-sized (from a gameplay point of view) that it has to come with a token indicating where it "actually" is, in game? :-p

I'm excited for KD, and have liked what I have played of it very much, but more than nearly any board-game I have ever owned, it is one where you tangibly feel how irrelevant the models are. There is no notion of LoS to them, elevation, etc... and mechanically it could be just the same game with chits.

Which is not to say the minis aren't gorgeous and worth having... but its a weird disconnect between the two halves of the game.

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