BobtheInquisitor wrote:
You need them for Space Hulk because they differentiate what is seen and "real" from the phantom echoes represented by the chits. Flipping over one mystery chit and then replacing it with another, slightly different chit, takes the visceral out of the game the way genestealers take the viscera out of the terminators. Might as well play set up, stare at, and then sadly repack a Fantasy Flight game.


Besides, it's really nice for some of us that the rules and miniatures can go to separate homes.

Vorian wrote:
Surely it's the same for any board game.

Do you really need the miniatures for space hulk or imperial assault for example? It just adds top the experience

 Alpharius wrote:
I thought 'elevation' actually *did* matter in the game?

At least in regards to 'terrain', ranged attacks, etc?

 LordRogalDorn wrote:
There is a reason I call Spidicules, Spidiculous.

Krinsath wrote:Of course, "Kingdom Death" and "practical" are clearly barely on speaking terms so that's not *actually* surprising.

LordRogalDorn wrote:There is a reason I call Spidicules, Spidiculous.

 LordRogalDorn wrote:
There is a reason I call Spidicules, Spidiculous.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
A lot of you are talking about the mechanics of the game, as opposed to the experience of the game. Mechanically, there doesn't exist a game anywhere that won't function with a properly marked chit in place of a miniature. Mechanically, chits won, and turned the miniatures world into their ash tray. As an experience, gaming depends on a lot more than the mechanics or we'd all be playing some computer algorithm game.

I would imagine most of the flavor of Kingdom Death comes from the miniatures, which deliver tangible touchstones of body horror that provide more imagination fuel than any chit ever could. Playing KD with chits would be like having sex with an auto assembly robot with a picture of Tracy Lords taped to it as opposed to the full, rich experience you could have at the, er hands, of a deluxe Japanese sexbot. Neither is real, but one of them seems a lot more real.

Disclaimer: having never played KDM myself nor ever having sex with a robot, my post is mostly conjecture.

 LordRogalDorn wrote:
There is a reason I call Spidicules, Spidiculous.

Not just because it was clever, then?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I don't think I was disagreeing with you in particular?

Spidicules detracts from my enjoyment of Kingdom Death because I think the mini looks goofy. Same with the Gorm and Sunstalker (infant?).

I just want to nip the whole "chits are fine" line in the bud. Ideally, there's a cheap yet creepy Bones mini that would fit on the board in place of the Spidicules mini.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I do not think Gorm and sunstalker detracts from the game, I kinda hate the Gorm model but looks like an infant and plays like an infant its quite disturbing as it should be, Sunstalker Infant is another disturbing sculpt a shark with a human mouth with limbs without inner bones, but I have yet to play the campaign to form what aspect it tries to explore.

 Sirius42 wrote:
Anyone else having problems with paying for this? I've contacted ks but they haven't got back to me yet, getting pretty stressed as the deadline for sorting it is tomorrow.

 Sirius42 wrote:
Anyone else having problems with paying for this? I've contacted ks but they haven't got back to me yet, getting pretty stressed as the deadline for sorting it is tomorrow.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 Sirius42 wrote:
Anyone else having problems with paying for this? I've contacted ks but they haven't got back to me yet, getting pretty stressed as the deadline for sorting it is tomorrow.

If you've been contacted by KS and told your payment has failed you need to chase your bank/cc provider as they'll be the one blocking it (eg because you don't have enough money in the account, or because they think it's a fraudulent payment)

give them a ring and they should be able to unblock the card while you wait, you can then resubmit the KS payment (there's usually a banner across the top of the ks page with a link to do so)

if it still won't work you could try another card too via the same link



(if you've just not heard anything yet, and KS is not flagging up a problem they may just not have tried to collect anything yet, I think they're still chugging along for some people)

 Sirius42 wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 Sirius42 wrote:
Anyone else having problems with paying for this? I've contacted ks but they haven't got back to me yet, getting pretty stressed as the deadline for sorting it is tomorrow.

If you've been contacted by KS and told your payment has failed you need to chase your bank/cc provider as they'll be the one blocking it (eg because you don't have enough money in the account, or because they think it's a fraudulent payment)

give them a ring and they should be able to unblock the card while you wait, you can then resubmit the KS payment (there's usually a banner across the top of the ks page with a link to do so)

if it still won't work you could try another card too via the same link



(if you've just not heard anything yet, and KS is not flagging up a problem they may just not have tried to collect anything yet, I think they're still chugging along for some people)

My Bank are saying it's KS and that KS need to provide some info to sort it ( I've had emails from them saying they'll cancel my pledge if it's not sorted by exactly 7 days after completion of the campaign, so I have about 24 hours to sort it).

So what I need is either someone from KS or KD to actually talk to me or I'm looking to be pretty stuffed.

 Sirius42 wrote:
Looks like I'm SOL, my bank can't fix it this week and KS don't have a phone number

World of SMOG

Spoiler:

Armor Painting Contest

Our Amor Kit Painting contest was amazing, we had a HUGE turnout! It was inspirational to see so many new hobbyists jump into the action! There are a few submissions that we could not approve due to blurry photos and such, I will reach out to those people so they have the chance to resubmit and be added to our gallery.

We will announce the winners in due time. Now it's time for JUDGEMENT! BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Check out the full gallery here!!!

I am publishing them as of right now! There are over 100 entries and I need to set the thumbnail and name for each, so give it a few hours before everything is fully published!

KD:M 1.5 Pledge Manager - Estimated Feb 14!

We are aiming to launch the pledge manager on feburary 14th 2017, aka Valentines day! I can confirm that we will be using backerkit and that there is sooo much we need to ensure works properly. Lot's of work! We are trying to build in as many accommodations as we can for the various requests we've received in the past few weeks. Please allow us the time to get everything prepared and the understanding that we must remain tight-lipped about its details until it is launched.

WIP

Spoiler:

Update Frequency & Expectation Management

Please do not or scheduled updates from myself or the KD:M team. I like to write the updates myself, as I can share my unique perceptive with everyone and it feels good to communicate directly. However, since there is just SO MUCH going on everyday, it's not something I feel comfortable making a scheduled thing. I need to be excited to share and ready to talk about the status of the project or any small part of the project. There is a shocking amount to consider each time I write an update.

My plan is to continue doing the best I can and reaching out to you amazing people whenever we really have something to communicate or show. Otherwise, my attention is day by day focused on the myriad of tasks at hand.

First one up. Getting all those last minute typo's and adjustments into the 1.5 Core Game, which I need to 100% sign off on by Feb 8th. Gonna be some loooong hours in the fistful of days! If we make it in time, it gives us our BEST chance of having it within our original estimate. However, I would expect that 3 month rolling delay I mentioned during the campaign. Manufacturing requires a lot of attention and I can't in good faith approve of something subpar just to make a deadline.

Any requests for what we wanna see / talk about next time!?!!!!!!!!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:


cross over mini with the CMON SMOG: RIse of Moloch KS

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolminiornot/the-world-of-smog-rise-of-moloch?ref=nav_search

Note:

1. you must pick up the base pledge to buy add ons in CMON KS

2. The mini will be made by the CMON sculptors in their plastic and come preassembled (and will probably be a bit small compared to 'real' KD minis based on the size of other CMON boardgame humans)