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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 08:34:32
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Tower of Power
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As title i.e a tank
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 08:41:53
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Changing Our Legion's Name
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Flyers with Vtol ability can as can deep strikers. However I think we would have to apply common sense to this, as in what the landing pad looks like, if it is off the ground or not, etc... If it is off the ground with no way of acessing it via a stable ramp then I would say "no", otherwise if it is on the ground then yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 11:19:11
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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If not a flyer, then you can only get there if you place it there when you are deploying, but you have no way of getting off.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 11:24:24
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Making Stuff
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Not actually true.
The rules for the Skyshield state that moving on or off the pad counts as moving through difficult terrain. No distinction is made for any particular troop type, so vehicles can move on or off just like anybody else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 11:47:03
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Leader of the Sept
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How bizarre, given the general lack of access routes to the top surface. Infantry I can see using ladders or something, but vehicles? Unless the whole thing can retract into the ground, which would be the only way for cargo to be brought down I suppose... OK, I've changed my mind, Its feasible
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 12:01:22
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Let's ask the OP: why?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 12:16:46
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Tower of Power
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Because someone deployed tanks on top of it, that's why.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 12:43:11
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Killer Klaivex
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insaniak wrote:Not actually true.
The rules for the Skyshield state that moving on or off the pad counts as moving through difficult terrain. No distinction is made for any particular troop type, so vehicles can move on or off just like anybody else.
And, since it's not a ruin, I can fire my indirect barrages at models under it, correct?
After all, if it played like a ruin, you couldn't place vehicles on it.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 12:50:53
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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mercer wrote:Because someone deployed tanks on top of it, that's why.
I see nothing wrong with that, to be honest. Deployment wise, there's nothing preventing it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 15:41:28
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Indeed. Could be a nice place to chuck a couple of manticores/bassies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 18:36:34
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I believe there is a rule in the skyshield section abojut skimmers not taking difficult terrain tests if it's unfurled.
Would seem to indicate that vehicles can be up there RAI-wise.
RAW-wise there really is no argument against it. It's pretty clear that they can.
there it is:
'Jetbikes and Skimmers dom not need to take difficult terrain tests for moving on to or off of an unfurled Skyshield landing pad.
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Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 18:41:18
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Vehicles with an invul....crazy talk....crazy good talk....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 19:01:10
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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DE have than anyway, as does Bjorn
Don't forget that the enemy CAN take that shiny toy away from you and use it themselves, or bring their own
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Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
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Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
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Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 23:27:14
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Yup, it's all cool til you roll a one for difficult terrain. Or when your opponent decided to target the building and not the tank...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/14 23:30:24
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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It's not a building, so can't be targeted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 00:06:25
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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What is it, battlefield debris?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 00:08:08
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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It's a Fortification on pg 115 of the BRB.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 00:33:25
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Making Stuff
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It's a Fortification of Terrain Type: Unique, as explained in its rules entry.
No rules are provided that would allow you to attack it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 00:59:41
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Sinewy Scourge
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insaniak wrote:It's a Fortification of Terrain Type: Unique, as explained in its rules entry.
No rules are provided that would allow you to attack it.
Exactly this. The terrain type is unique. In fact, none of the "fortifications" on pages 114-117 are defined as Terrain Type:Fortification.
You could no more attack the skyshield landing pad and destroy it than you could the aegis defence line.
It (the skyshield) is a piece of terrain, nothing more, nothing less.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 01:35:40
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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My bad. Book was at home.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 02:08:56
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Flinty wrote:Unless the whole thing can retract into the ground, which would be the only way for cargo to be brought down I suppose... OK, I've changed my mind, Its feasible
Yeah I kinda assume it can be lowered enough to let vehicles on and off, refuelling, dropping cargo or using sky talons would be really awkward otherwise. The supports on it look as though they're some kind of collapsable hydraulic thingy. I assume it raises up for stuff to take off/land more conveniently and also whenever it needs to deploy its defences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/15 06:47:02
Subject: can vehicles go on the sky shield landing pad?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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It's essentially an unusual type of hill.
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