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nkelsch wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

So do you or do you not have a source that shows this individual was suffering from PTSD, or are you prepared to say that you are making unsubstantiated assumptions?

Considering the last 4 veteran shootings had PTSD/Mental Illness and it was untreated due to 'reasons'. (Fort hood 2014, Fort hood 2009, Navy Yard, Houston)

And then there are other PTSD shootings like the Chris Kyle shooting.

So we see another veteran perpetuating a shooting... begs the question... Considering we *ARE* neglecting our VETs health care and how we take care of them after being deployed, and there is Stigma over treatment for PTSD... It isn't an issue which should be ignored out of blind admiration of Veterans who are seen infallible heroes.

So it's settled, you are making assumptions.

There are so many PTSD symptoms one occurs on deployment. Anything from violence to lack of sleep or combat jitters

 d-usa wrote:
Clearly there is something that is caused by being a military veteran that causes all this, or it wouldn't be military veterans doing it.

Clearly there is something that is caused by being black that causes all this, or it wouldn't be black people doing it.

That seems like solid logic following the same train of thought as d-usa.

Btw, thank you for your assumptions about military members who suffer from PTSD. Your a real class act.

SemperMortis wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Clearly there is something that is caused by being a military veteran that causes all this, or it wouldn't be military veterans doing it.

Clearly there is something that is caused by being black that causes all this, or it wouldn't be black people doing it.

Which of course also works for "Muslim", "people who own guns", "homosexuals", and any other random demographic fact that gets thrown around as the "cause" every time something happens.

 d-usa wrote:

SemperMortis wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Clearly there is something that is caused by being a military veteran that causes all this, or it wouldn't be military veterans doing it.

Clearly there is something that is caused by being black that causes all this, or it wouldn't be black people doing it.

Which of course also works for "Muslim", "people who own guns", "homosexuals", and any other random demographic fact that gets thrown around as the "cause" every time something happens.

Then I would say that your an ignorant left winger who doesn't believe in facts but likes to skew them as much as possible. Did the Orlando Shooter say he was carrying out his attack in the name of ISIS? pretty sure he did

How about the San Bernadino shooters? ISIS right?

How about the Fort Hood shooter? In the name of allah right? yup.


These are all confirmed facts, not random links put together in a chain. By your own logic you are wrong. Please withdraw your comment it is highly offensive.

SemperMortis wrote:
Please withdraw your comment it is highly offensive.

No.

Semper, you aren't behaving any different. This thread is getting rude, everyone reel it in and start approaching the topic with more control or we'll have to lock it. Remember, when we make points online be careful not to use sarcasm or things like that, it is very easy to mistake for something that is rude as opposed to trying to make a point through something that would work far better in person.

We're moving on from this argument

SemperMortis wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

SemperMortis wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Clearly there is something that is caused by being a military veteran that causes all this, or it wouldn't be military veterans doing it.

Clearly there is something that is caused by being black that causes all this, or it wouldn't be black people doing it.

Which of course also works for "Muslim", "people who own guns", "homosexuals", and any other random demographic fact that gets thrown around as the "cause" every time something happens.

Then I would say that your an ignorant left winger who doesn't believe in facts but likes to skew them as much as possible. Did the Orlando Shooter say he was carrying out his attack in the name of ISIS? pretty sure he did

How about the San Bernadino shooters? ISIS right?

How about the Fort Hood shooter? In the name of allah right? yup.


These are all confirmed facts, not random links put together in a chain. By your own logic you are wrong. Please withdraw your comment it is highly offensive.

What does the shooters pledging allegiance to ISIS have to do with d-usa's point?

SemperMortis wrote:
Anyone covered the fact that Former Miss Alabama called the gunman a Martyr? or that a Psychist tried to justify that by making a comparison to a elementary school bully getting punched in the face. (Cops are the bully, the person punching the bully is the dallas sniper)

I didn't miss it, I just didn't care to get into it. However, since we have some people getting unfriendly in the past few posts, I'll use your comment to remind everyone that BLM is not about MLK style activism. They've got some outliers but the core of it is still the same as it was last year. Let's go to Blair White who sums it up better (controversial so use headphones if at work).


As long as there are people who refuse to call BLM on their they will continue to incite and foment.

 Breotan wrote:
I didn't miss it, I just didn't care to get into it.

Maybe because some person you didn't know about has an opinion you don't like isn't worth talking about?

They've got some outliers but the core of it is still the same as it was last year.

Which in your opinion is what?

As long as there are people who refuse to call BLM on their they will continue to incite and foment.

And what, using your own words, is their "bleep?"

 CptJake wrote:

The Dallas shooter got his training outside of the military (his MOS was a vertical construction engineer, but after he got booted from the army he attended tactical shooter training).

Granted, but my point still stands that compared to someone with no military training whatsoever, his odds of success were greater, and this holds regarding the other shootings by ex-military personnel as well. We're seeing a more efficient, better planned killing than, say, the average gang banger might come up with, which in turn is causing greater impact.

 Breotan wrote:

Spoiler:

As long as there are people who refuse to call BLM on their they will continue to incite and foment.

That video is terrible and she is dumb calling BLM anti-LGBT when it is Pride who is anti-Black as there is a huge history of bigotry within the LGBT community where white gay males do not support or associate with the LBT and segregate themselves from minorities. One of the major reasons they crashed the Toronto event was because there was an overwhelming lack of diversity and many minority groups were given less space or worse space or less representation than the white-male gay groups. And the leader of Toronto Pride admitted they were valid points and agreed to them. Many disagree with the whole 'police' aspect of their requests but in general it was a valid protest with a valid point to make within the LGBT community and even the local Pride people acknowledge it.

She is pretty wrong on that, and pretty wrong on a lot of things... so terrible video is terrible.

nkelsch wrote:
... she is dumb calling BLM anti-LGBT when it is Pride who is anti-Black...

Accusations of LGBT being anti-black does not excuse or erase anti-LGBT actions of BLM. Unless you're of the opinion that two wrongs do in fact make a right?

nkelsch wrote:
She is pretty wrong on that, and pretty wrong on a lot of things... so terrible video is terrible.

Well, you only brought up the one BLM vs LGBT issue so what other things are you calling her out for? Did BLM not chant "dead cops" and "fry 'em like bacon" after all? Do you believe MLK would be a supporter of Black Lives Matter and their anti-cop rhetoric and tactics of blocking freeways and previous rioting? Blair suggests that BLM has strained race relations since their founding. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? Or do you just not like Blair because... reasons?