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Mostly built around including the models I like, and finding a use for the Mortis I got in the DreamForge Kickstarter...

Daemon Prince + MoN, Wings, Power Armour, Brand of Skalathrax

Typhus

4 Terminators + MoN + CombiM, Power Fist, Chainfist

7 Plague Marines + Champ with Power fist 2 x plasma gun

7 Plague Marines + Champ with power fist, 2 x meltagun

5 Plague Marines + Champ with Power Weapon, 2 x plasma gun

15 Plague Zombies

Forgefiend (2 x hades cannons)

Seems good to me. But aren't you a little bit concern about your lack of speed to seize objectives ?

Any views on whether demon princes are still worth it?

Are the champion and powerfist in each of the plague marine units wasted points; hedge your bets and get rid of a couple?

id just wait till the books out man :/

I'd drop the DP and turn his points into Zombies and a Heldrake, then I'd drop the Termies and make their points a Heldrake (gotta take on flyers somehow).

 Lordjig6 wrote:
id just wait till the books out man :/

It sort of is 'out there in the wild' as it happens not that I'd encourage anyone to read it that way.

but its not officially out. and judgeing by the GW website. P.marines are elite. so 1. as far as i can see its not legal and we dont know for sure if one of your HQs upgrade them to troops.

Just wait the 3 days man honestly...

The "out there in the wild" show me it and ill believe. i appreciate the rumours but theres nothing definitive.

 Lordjig6 wrote:
but its not officially out. and judgeing by the GW website. P.marines are elite. so 1. as far as i can see its not legal and we dont know for sure if one of your HQs upgrade them to troops.

Just wait the 3 days man honestly...

The "out there in the wild" show me it and ill believe. i appreciate the rumours but theres nothing definitive.

I'm not going to direct link to it, but a download of the pdf showed up on 4chan's /tg/ early yesterday morning, the chap who created it had received the book from his flgs, who quite clearly ignored the recent email games workshop sent out to distributors about not giving out anything till the official release date, but you have to realise the vast majority of stores now have physical copies of the book. Plague marines go from elite to troop with Typhus or a nurgle marked lord, he also makes the listed plague zombies possible which are cultists with just a close combat weapon, slow and purposeful, fearless and feel no pain.

What the wiki wall of text?

Didnt seem like a way to make a list :/

 Lordjig6 wrote:
What the wiki wall of text?

Didnt seem like a way to make a list :/

LOL that's not a wall of text.

It's out there. There's no question of that.

I can't say that Daemon Princes are worth it anymore. The loss of Eternal Warrior, even with T5, doesn't make me feel comfortable spending the 50% increase in cost to get them back to where they were in 5th. Unless I missed something that makes them immune to ID, as the Daemon special rule does not.

 kcwm wrote:

 Lordjig6 wrote:
What the wiki wall of text?

Didnt seem like a way to make a list :/

LOL that's not a wall of text.

It's out there. There's no question of that.

I can't say that Daemon Princes are worth it anymore. The loss of Eternal Warrior, even with T5, doesn't make me feel comfortable spending the 50% increase in cost to get them back to where they were in 5th. Unless I missed something that makes them immune to ID, as the Daemon special rule does not.

I'm inclined to agree unfortunately, though give it wings and the murder sword and it could be fun.

Yeah, speed was a concern, I was hoping the flying DP would help there...

 Slinky wrote:
Yeah, speed was a concern, I was hoping the flying DP would help there...

Could always try some nurgle marked warp talons, I'm thinking of using them just for the blind effect if nothing else, should be an interesting one to use tactically, not just for getting them into range.

Rhinos are no longer required for CSM like in 5th.

I'd say solid list. Don't forget to play to the objective, even though it will be tempting to get those special weapons in play.

The list is not speculation, it is legal in the new dex.

Typhus is going to be everywhere because GW still has a hard on for the plaguies.

What has Tzeentch done to be forsaken so.

To OP, decent list but the DP is a huge investment at 1500 now so with the land raider cost of Typhus this list is a bit top heavy.

If the prince gets dropped, my only suggestion would be to use those points to get more plague marines.

 Ghostcat wrote:
To OP, decent list but the DP is a huge investment at 1500 now so with the land raider cost of Typhus this list is a bit top heavy.

Yeah, true. 250 for the DP is quite spendy. However I want to use the Raging Heroes "legendary gluttony" model.

I might consider dropping Typhus for a MoN lord instead, but since you can't get a simple daemon weapon, it's hard to come up with a killer set of equipment that I really like.

 Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:

I'm inclined to agree unfortunately, though give it wings and the murder sword and it could be fun.

Not to mention extremely expensive and very situational. My DP has been replaced by a lord and he ins't going to be seeing the table unless I get a lucky roll on the Boon table.

Might try and fit some Nurgle bikers in as well if I can...


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Dropped the DP to fit in heldrake and bikers:

Typhus

4 Terminators + MoN, CombiM, Power Fist x 2

5 Plague Marines + Champ with power fist, 2 x meltagun
5 Plague Marines + Champ with Power Fist 2 x plasma gun
5 Plague Marines + Champ with Power Weapon, 2 x plasma gun

15 Plague Zombies

Heldrake

5 Nurgle bikers + power weapon, Plasma gun, Melta gun

Forgefiend (2 x hades cannons)


Seems a bit more rounded now...

 Ghostcat wrote:
The list is not speculation, it is legal in the new dex.

Typhus is going to be everywhere because GW still has a hard on for the plaguies.

What has Tzeentch done to be forsaken so.

To OP, decent list but the DP is a huge investment at 1500 now so with the land raider cost of Typhus this list is a bit top heavy.

To be fair, Ahriman is a pretty big bad ass. Sorcerers are dirt cheap to.

Yeah Ahriman is.... Awesome.

Hmmm, I wonder if an allied detachment of Epidemius would do well here? Does the tally still work for them in the new codex?

The MoN Daemon prince with wings is going to be a Pita to deal with. Hard to hit with a shrouded jink save is nice.

Tally is "Meh" at 1500. You've already won the game if you start maxing it out!

instead of the Forgefiend why dont you bring 2 squads of havocs with 4 autocannons or maybe 3 autos and a Frag,Krakk, and Flakk missle alucher in each squad giving any extra points to maybe more bodies?
But seriously I think Havocs greatly outplay the forgefeinds right now plus the fact that the its and armour 12 vehicle, it can be brought down fairly fast.

 Brometheus wrote:
Yeah Ahriman is.... Awesome.

Point drop, highest psychic mastery in the game so far and the ability to use 3 shooting attacks a turn? I think your standards are to high.

Mooar zombies considering the ridiculously low cost for 35 fnp, fearless scoring unit I would find the pts to bump them up, try to maybe buff up your walking plague marine units aswell, need big numbers if your footslogging, or special weapons and templates will make your units short lived.

Sadly as it stands right now, and iam not sure if its intended, you cant buy more peeps in a zombie squad, they arent alloved any options, and getting more brainhungry fellows, is an option, so they are capped at 10.

RonCrazy wrote:
Sadly as it stands right now, and iam not sure if its intended, you cant buy more peeps in a zombie squad, they arent alloved any options, and getting more brainhungry fellows, is an option, so they are capped at 10.

well anybody who does that knowing it will be faq'd, because its just one of gw's many typos, I wouldnt even bother playing that person, I mean if they are going to be a stickler on that Just cram 3x Drakes, and 3 x Forgefiends in there face they will probably change that "tude" fast

I'd definitely look at bikes, they're so cheap now that I think we'll see them lots.