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 SickSix wrote:
Ok, other than the dust jacket, what is justifying the $115 price of the collectors editions?
Not being a cheapskate.
   
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 Salted Diamond wrote:
I might have missed it somewhere, but are the limited ed covers going to be the same price as the regular? I didn't pay attention when the Tau and Eldar limited ones came out to remember.





Not a chance. Hell will have long frozen over before that happens. You're looking at close to double a regular codex, maybe more considering its SM.


Or the Toronto Maple Leafs winning the Stanley Cup?


Dude... That hurts.

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I am a Leaf fan as well. I know the pain.

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Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

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Davor wrote:
I am a Leaf fan as well. I know the pain.


Try being a flames fan...

   
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The pictures are gone from the Chinese site, and /tg/ has them for the time being but no idea how long their going to be around so I've got them rehosted and on Talk Wargaming:
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 OverwatchCNC wrote:
While I buy all my codices in the iBook form now I may need to buy a hardcover too if these rumors are true and they have a Salamanders cover.


I have to see it to believe it, you buy two of something? Go to GE, take out your iPad, take a picture of the cover, and get out with your money.

I am so excited that my Imperial Fists can be competitive again, too bad I will be their commander and thus doom them to last place. I am sure these rumors are fact though. 40K radio has a top reputation for good, reliable, information. The mini-dexs are what we still don't know about, right? The "go plastic" direction is the really big bomb. I am so glad we can get out of metal and finecrap. I want to see the second wave rumors, I think we are going to get some cool models.


 
   
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Eldercaveman wrote:
Davor wrote:
I am a Leaf fan as well. I know the pain.


Try being a flames fan...


Or a Canucks fan. QQ.

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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Back OT. I can't decided which to get: UM LE or the standard dex. Torn inside.

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Standard Dex, + the fact that Sternguard box has atleast two combi-plasmas in it.

Yay for my new (Guesstimate using Dark Angels/posted points) army list and my wallet.

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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Crazyterran wrote:
Standard Dex, + the fact that Sternguard box has atleast two combi-plasmas in it.

Yay for my new (Guesstimate using Dark Angels/posted points) army list and my wallet.

I have been making my own Combi-Plasmas and someone makes me Combi-Meltas, I need Combi-Flamers

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 Anpu42 wrote:
Crazyterran wrote:
Standard Dex, + the fact that Sternguard box has atleast two combi-plasmas in it.

Yay for my new (Guesstimate using Dark Angels/posted points) army list and my wallet.

I have been making my own Combi-Plasmas and someone makes me Combi-Meltas, I need Combi-Flamers


Well, I imagine it'd have those, even if they haven't posted any.

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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Crazyterran wrote:
 Anpu42 wrote:
Crazyterran wrote:
Standard Dex, + the fact that Sternguard box has atleast two combi-plasmas in it.

Yay for my new (Guesstimate using Dark Angels/posted points) army list and my wallet.

I have been making my own Combi-Plasmas and someone makes me Combi-Meltas, I need Combi-Flamers


Well, I imagine it'd have those, even if they haven't posted any.

I hope so or I am going to have get lots of Hand Flamers

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 Anpu42 wrote:
Crazyterran wrote:
 Anpu42 wrote:
Crazyterran wrote:
Standard Dex, + the fact that Sternguard box has atleast two combi-plasmas in it.

Yay for my new (Guesstimate using Dark Angels/posted points) army list and my wallet.

I have been making my own Combi-Plasmas and someone makes me Combi-Meltas, I need Combi-Flamers


Well, I imagine it'd have those, even if they haven't posted any.

I hope so or I am going to have get lots of Hand Flamers


On the bright side, if what people say on the forums is true, everyone will be ebaying all their Bangels!

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Oh, forgot to ask before: Zion, next time you contact the 40K Radio guys, see if they're in the mood to answer(ideally accurately) whether or not Legion of the Damned benefit from the Chapter Tactics of the army that includes them, could you?

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That would be pretty sweet if the legion of the damned got the benefit of bolter drill

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 Yodhrin wrote:
Oh, forgot to ask before: Zion, next time you contact the 40K Radio guys, see if they're in the mood to answer(ideally accurately) whether or not Legion of the Damned benefit from the Chapter Tactics of the army that includes them, could you?


I'll give it a go!
   
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Does anybody know if Iron Hands sergeants will be able to take thunder hammers again?

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I asked this a page or three ago, but those beautiful covers buried it: does God of War still allow auto pass/fail of morale checks?

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I believe it was mentioned that it now allows Calgar to use one of the UM combat doctrines a second time during the course of a game.
   
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 Lobukia wrote:
I asked this a page or three ago, but those beautiful covers buried it: does God of War still allow auto pass/fail of morale checks?


They said he could in the past, but then said the thing about the second use of one of the tactics. At this point....I don't friggin' know.

Remember kids, poor communications kills. Just ask the Emperor.
   
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ClockworkZion wrote:
 Lobukia wrote:
I asked this a page or three ago, but those beautiful covers buried it: does God of War still allow auto pass/fail of morale checks?


They said he could in the past, but then said the thing about the second use of one of the tactics. At this point....I don't friggin' know.

Remember kids, poor communications kills. Just ask the Emperor.


Yeah, I listened to it twice... sounded like "same as before... " and then into the using a tactic twice, but not sure if they were correcting or adding to the prior statement

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40k Radio replies:

40K Radio wrote: "No Legion of the Damned do not have Chapter Tactics and are not affected by any chapter."

40K Radio wrote: "Marneus Calgar's God of War rule: all friendly units with Ultramarine Chapter Tactics can choose whether to pass or fail any morale check they are called on to make. You may also use a single Combat Doctrine twice."

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Zion: thanks for all your work brother!

Could you ask the cost of venerable dreads?
Also is master of forge able to take dreads as heavies?

Thanks again!

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Thanks for fielding Qs for us Zion!

Any word yet on the cost of Chapter Masters, and whether they can do/take anything that captains can't?

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omg! I get to keep auto fail morale..... at a 270 point tax

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Jamo wrote:
Zion: thanks for all your work brother!

Could you ask the cost of venerable dreads?
Also is master of forge able to take dreads as heavies?

Thanks again!

Yes, I too need to know of the MOTF can do the dred spam thing.



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 davou wrote:
omg! I get to keep auto fail morale..... at a 270 point tax


275 actually. 285 if he's rocking his Termi-duds. He also lets you use one of the Combat Doctrines a second time, and with the improvements to Honor Guard i could see cause to use 3 units of them in large games.

Okay....REALLY large games.


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Also, questions posted. I'll post answers as soon as I see them.

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ClockworkZion wrote:
 davou wrote:
omg! I get to keep auto fail morale..... at a 270 point tax


.....He also lets you use one of the Warlord traits a second time.....

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Also, questions posted. I'll post answers as soon as I see them.


I take that to mean Combat Doctrine and not Warlord Traits?

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I asked:
1. How much do Venerable Dreads cost without upgrades/options?
2. Do Chapter Masters have access to any wargear that Captains don't?
3. Does the Master of the Forge still let you bring Dreadnoughts as Heavy Support Choices?
4. Other than the bikes do any of the HQs make any other unit scoring?

40k Radio:
All those questions will be answered on this weeks show. I will give you a few random tidbits to tide you over.
-There are 6 Chapter Relics
-Assault Marines as troops is still a Blood Angels exclusive
-Heavy Flamers only available to Sternguard and LotD for Power Armored infantry.
-Bolster Defenses is the same as Dark Angels

EDIT: Bolded a correction by 40k Radio

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 NickTheButcher wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
 davou wrote:
omg! I get to keep auto fail morale..... at a 270 point tax


.....He also lets you use one of the Warlord traits a second time.....

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Also, questions posted. I'll post answers as soon as I see them.


I take that to mean Combat Doctrine and not Warlord Traits?


Well yeah, but I was half-way to bed when I posted that. Facebook alert noise brought me back.

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TechMarine1 wrote:
Does anybody know if Iron Hands sergeants will be able to take thunder hammers again?


Considering most rumors are pointing to Salamanders Vet Sarges being unable to take them. I can only image the Iron Hands will suffer the same fate.

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