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**Mr. Burning**

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20885838

For those too despondent and depressed to click their way to the article:

One in 10 young people feel they cannot cope with day-to-day life - with those not in work, education or training more than twice as likely to feel this way - according to a Prince's Trust survey.

The annual Youth Index report questioned 2,136 16 to 25-year-olds.

A total of 27% of respondents in work feel down or depressed always or often, compared with 48% who were not in education, employment or training.

It also found 22% did not have someone to talk to about their problems.

The 2012 report discovered 52% of so-called NEETs said they often or always felt depressed.

The index, now in its fifth year, gauges young people's happiness across a range of areas, from family life to physical and mental health.

Despite the pressures many are facing, it shows relatively slight changes in overall confidence and happiness amongst young people, says BBC social affairs correspondent Alison Holt.

Martina Milburn, chief executive of The Prince's Trust, said: "A frightening number of unemployed young people feel unable to cope - and it is particularly tough for those who don't have a support network in place.

"We know at The Prince's Trust that it is often those from the most vulnerable backgrounds who end up furthest from the job market.

"Life can become a demoralising downward spiral - from a challenging childhood into life as a jobless adult. But, with the right support, we can help get these lives on track."

A Department of Work and Pensions spokesperson said youth unemployment had recently fallen.

"Excluding full-time students there are now 626,000 unemployed 16 to 24-year-olds - the lowest figure since early 2009. But we are not complacent about the scale of the challenge we still face.

"Through our Youth Contract we're offering nearly 500,000 work experience placements, wage incentives and apprenticeships over the next three years to help young people gain the skills and experience needed to get a job."

Good Grief. As a sufferer of depression I resent being lumped in with the job shy and lazy.

Escitalopram all round then off to the cabbage fields with the lot of them!

**Howard A Treesong**

I was unemployed for 3 months after finishing uni and it was utterly depressing. I couldn't claim any jobseekers because my wife was working, even though she was minimum wage, which made things financially very hard (if I was single I could have applied for all sorts), and I just felt like a massive burden upon everyone. You fill in long applications for things every day and never hear back. Oddly enough I had to walk down to sign on every week anyway, but because I wasn't being paid any JSA they didn't seem bothered with helping me. I can't imagine being out of work for longer, or even years, I'd go mad.

**Seaward**

We should really call up Tom Brokaw and get him to rethink who he picked as the Greatest Generation. I mean, having to deal with the Great Depression and World War II is one thing, but c'mon.

**Howard A Treesong**

At least if WW2 was on we'd all have a job.

**hotsauceman1**

I learned Along time ago that things get better only if you let them. If you actively try to feel depressed you will not go anywhere. While things are hard, They do get better if you try.

**MeanGreenStompa**

All suffering is relative.

**Seaward**

Howard A Treesong wrote:
At least if WW2 was on we'd all have a job.

I know, that's what I mean. They had the Great Depression followed by years of combat. We've had a recession followed by sluggish growth. I mean, really. How dare Brokaw?

**Dreadwinter**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
I learned Along time ago that things get better only if you let them. If you actively try to feel depressed you will not go anywhere. While things are hard, They do get better if you try.

Who actively tries to feel depressed?

**Kilkrazy**

I'm 50 and it doesn't get any better.

Ha! Ha!! Ha!!!

**Alfndrate**

Dreadwinter wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
I learned Along time ago that things get better only if you let them. If you actively try to feel depressed you will not go anywhere. While things are hard, They do get better if you try.

Who actively tries to feel depressed?

I think that he means if you don't actively change your depressing outlook things will never get better. I realize that depression is far from this a lot times, but motivation is huge with mood. If you don't have the motivation to have a positive outlook, gak doesn't get better. Like personally I'm fine during the day, right up until I lay down to go to sleep, when all the thoughts and worries hit me as I try to sleep. I wake up the next morning groggy and feeling like gak, but know that I can't worry about the small stuff...

**Mattman154**

I realized a long time ago that I will die with no money in the bank.

And I'm as happy as a clam!

**djones520**

Mattman154 wrote:
I realized a long time ago that I will die with no money in the bank.

And I'm as happy as a clam!

I plan on having something to leave my kids, but yeah I know what you mean. I long ago accepted that I will never be monetarily rich. But that's fine, my life is great as it is.

**hotsauceman1**

Alfndrate wrote:
Dreadwinter wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
I learned Along time ago that things get better only if you let them. If you actively try to feel depressed you will not go anywhere. While things are hard, They do get better if you try.

Who actively tries to feel depressed?

I think that he means if you don't actively change your depressing outlook things will never get better. I realize that depression is far from this a lot times, but motivation is huge with mood. If you don't have the motivation to have a positive outlook, gak doesn't get better. Like personally I'm fine during the day, right up until I lay down to go to sleep, when all the thoughts and worries hit me as I try to sleep. I wake up the next morning groggy and feeling like gak, but know that I can't worry about the small stuff...

Yeah, That is what i meant. Although i have met people who do try to be depressed with the whole "Poor me and my troubles" attitude.

**djones520**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Alfndrate wrote:
Dreadwinter wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
I learned Along time ago that things get better only if you let them. If you actively try to feel depressed you will not go anywhere. While things are hard, They do get better if you try.

Who actively tries to feel depressed?

I think that he means if you don't actively change your depressing outlook things will never get better. I realize that depression is far from this a lot times, but motivation is huge with mood. If you don't have the motivation to have a positive outlook, gak doesn't get better. Like personally I'm fine during the day, right up until I lay down to go to sleep, when all the thoughts and worries hit me as I try to sleep. I wake up the next morning groggy and feeling like gak, but know that I can't worry about the small stuff...

Yeah, That is what i meant. Although i have met people who do try to be depressed with the whole "Poor me and my troubles" attitude.

Truth. You've gotta be willing to work for what you want. Just as important, you have to know what you want. I've generally found that once you figured out what it is you wanted, getting it isn't really all that hard.

**Easy E**

In the grand Dakka tradition, let's "Blame the Victim!"

**Mr. Burning**

Howard A Treesong wrote:
I was unemployed for 3 months after finishing uni and it was utterly depressing. I couldn't claim any jobseekers because my wife was working, even though she was minimum wage, which made things financially very hard (if I was single I could have applied for all sorts), and I just felt like a massive burden upon everyone. You fill in long applications for things every day and never hear back. Oddly enough I had to walk down to sign on every week anyway, but because I wasn't being paid any JSA they didn't seem bothered with helping me. I can't imagine being out of work for longer, or even years, I'd go mad.

Don't feel too bad, you wouldn't have gotten any better help even if you had been getting any job seekers.

I don't know about greatest generation, They certainly lack the will to be generation X'ers as well.

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djones520 wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Alfndrate wrote:
Dreadwinter wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
I learned Along time ago that things get better only if you let them. If you actively try to feel depressed you will not go anywhere. While things are hard, They do get better if you try.

Who actively tries to feel depressed?

I think that he means if you don't actively change your depressing outlook things will never get better. I realize that depression is far from this a lot times, but motivation is huge with mood. If you don't have the motivation to have a positive outlook, gak doesn't get better. Like personally I'm fine during the day, right up until I lay down to go to sleep, when all the thoughts and worries hit me as I try to sleep. I wake up the next morning groggy and feeling like gak, but know that I can't worry about the small stuff...

Yeah, That is what i meant. Although i have met people who do try to be depressed with the whole "Poor me and my troubles" attitude.

Truth. You've gotta be willing to work for what you want. Just as important, you have to know what you want. I've generally found that once you figured out what it is you wanted, getting it isn't really all that hard.

This is truth right here.

**LoneLictor**

Unemployed people are depressed.

It's a good thing Dakka is around, to tell them, "Stop being depressed."

**hotsauceman1**

Easy E wrote:
In the grand Dakka tradition, let's "Blame the Victim!"

I disagree, Many of the depressed people i have met have ok lives and not enough to worry about, but they refuse to be happy to get better.
Clinical depression is different so i wont go into that.
The problem is many people refuse to try to get better, instead opting to try. Because, although it is miserable, it is also safe and if they try to make it better, they are not sure how worse it can be.

**LoneLictor**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Easy E wrote:
In the grand Dakka tradition, let's "Blame the Victim!"

I disagree, Many of the depressed people i have met have ok lives and not enough to worry about, but they refuse to be happy to get better.
Clinical depression is different so i wont go into that.
The problem is many people refuse to try to get better, instead opting to try. Because, although it is miserable, it is also safe and if they try to make it better, they are not sure how worse it can be.

You must live in a weird place, to know so many people that actively avoid happiness.

Where I live, people want to be happy.

**hotsauceman1**

I have met people who do try to avoid being happy.

**whembly**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
I have met people who do try to avoid being happy.

Goth crew... by and large, depressed crowd.

But there's this one hot goth chick... happy is you can be... and wickedly devious. My pants is always too small when I was around her

**Mattman154**

whembly wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
I have met people who do try to avoid being happy.

Goth crew... by and large, depressed crowd.

But there's this one hot goth chick... happy is you can be... and wickedly devious. My pants is always too small when I was around her

Had me a couple of them. Way too many daddy issues.

**Palindrome**

Mr. Burning wrote:

Good Grief. As a sufferer of depression I resent being lumped in with the job shy and lazy.

Unemployed =/= workshy and lazy

**Alfndrate**

Mattman154 wrote:
whembly wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
I have met people who do try to avoid being happy.

Goth crew... by and large, depressed crowd.

But there's this one hot goth chick... happy is you can be... and wickedly devious. My pants is always too small when I was around her

Had me a couple of them. Way too many daddy issues.

Occasionally you'd hit the jackpot and get the ones with just enough daddy issues.

**Frazzled**

Mr. Burning wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20885838

For those too despondent and depressed to click their way to the article:

One in 10 young people feel they cannot cope with day-to-day life - with those not in work, education or training more than twice as likely to feel this way - according to a Prince's Trust survey.

The annual Youth Index report questioned 2,136 16 to 25-year-olds.

A total of 27% of respondents in work feel down or depressed always or often, compared with 48% who were not in education, employment or training.

It also found 22% did not have someone to talk to about their problems.

The 2012 report discovered 52% of so-called NEETs said they often or always felt depressed.

The index, now in its fifth year, gauges young people's happiness across a range of areas, from family life to physical and mental health.

Despite the pressures many are facing, it shows relatively slight changes in overall confidence and happiness amongst young people, says BBC social affairs correspondent Alison Holt.

Martina Milburn, chief executive of The Prince's Trust, said: "A frightening number of unemployed young people feel unable to cope - and it is particularly tough for those who don't have a support network in place.

"We know at The Prince's Trust that it is often those from the most vulnerable backgrounds who end up furthest from the job market.

"Life can become a demoralising downward spiral - from a challenging childhood into life as a jobless adult. But, with the right support, we can help get these lives on track."

A Department of Work and Pensions spokesperson said youth unemployment had recently fallen.

"Excluding full-time students there are now 626,000 unemployed 16 to 24-year-olds - the lowest figure since early 2009. But we are not complacent about the scale of the challenge we still face.

"Through our Youth Contract we're offering nearly 500,000 work experience placements, wage incentives and apprenticeships over the next three years to help young people gain the skills and experience needed to get a job."

Good Grief. As a sufferer of depression I resent being lumped in with the job shy and lazy.

Escitalopram all round then off to the cabbage fields with the lot of them!

Pussies. Get a Job!

**streamdragon**

Yeah! Just go on down to the job store and pick one up! I mean really, how hard is it? Every job is fulfilling and happy making and RIGHT THERE!

Spoiler:

**Frazzled**

streamdragon wrote:
Yeah! Just go on down to the job store and pick one up! I mean really, how hard is it? Every job is fulfilling and happy making and RIGHT THERE!

Spoiler:

thats sarcasm, in case it is not clear.

If you have time to type crap on the internet you have time to go compete with hard working illegal immigrants at MacDonalds. You won't get hired, but at least you'll see what hard working Americans look like.

**hotsauceman1**

I have tried to get several jobs at Mcdonalds, I can actually speak english and do change correctly. But I never hear back.

**Frazzled**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
I have tried to get several jobs at Mcdonalds, I can actually speak english and do change correctly. But I never hear back.[/quote

Thats why you haven't heard back.

Have you considered becoming a plumber? They make bank.

**hotsauceman1**

Sorry Frazz, But teacher is My goal in life.