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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 19:19:43
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Thanks for the replies on that! Does the current international shipping method have tracking / signed for or the like?
I'm only persisting on this question because I was under the impression that Priority Mail only added tracking to the border, but not once it left the US. It may give you the option to add more services on top of it, so I'm just curious... but I didn't think any of the basic shipping methods using USPS offered tracking on international packages.
(Perhaps it includes confirmation of delivery, even though it is not actually tracked? I did not think it did even that, but that would be a good reason)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 23:30:06
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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NoseGoblin wrote:For me, it does not make sense to ship 1st class for a few reasons.
1) I have distributors that carry my product in most countries.
2) I will not send anything that cannot be tracked.
3) (Most important) My contract warehouse/shipper has a hard time shipping 1st class mail. They end up shipping them priority and when I have a sale like this I lose money on every purchase. I think their system cannot tell the difference between 1st class and priority, it just sees USPS. As I like the job they are doing and they provide a very reasonable rate when compared to other service providers, it does not make sense for me to look ells where as these costs would ultimately be passed to my customers.
Are you able to send to international customers via a WGF outlet/factory/warehouse in China? That would save you a fortune.
The 54mm model looks great.
Any word on those last missing armour pieces from the KS? It'd be nice to close the book on this one, and it's been months now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/03 06:07:43
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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So this is Panzerjager unit. but if 'Panzerjager' means 'tank hunter' then ... do they use automatic antitank rifle (with DU ammo)? or is it a different form of 'antitank laser weapon'?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/03 11:46:48
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Lone Cat wrote:
So this is Panzerjager unit. but if 'Panzerjager' means 'tank hunter' then ... do they use automatic antitank rifle (with DU ammo)? or is it a different form of 'antitank laser weapon'?
Earlier on, the images show the last 2 long weapons in the right are Plasma based Tank penetrator weapons
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/03 11:51:10
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Indescriminate Explicator
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North Star miniatures are selling of their Dreamforge stock with a nice discount at the moment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/04 03:16:57
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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1. And so differs from a generic plasmagun in 40k in that it doesn't 'splash' (isn't it?) or is this plasma antitank weapon overheats so easy?
2. And about regular troops... stormtroopers,
2.1 tell me about their standard rifles. is it a generic modern day assault rifle or a direct enegy weapon ?
2.2 do they wear flak armor or carapace one?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/04 05:20:10
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Lone Cat wrote:1. And so differs from a generic plasmagun in 40k in that it doesn't 'splash' (isn't it?) or is this plasma antitank weapon overheats so easy?
2. And about regular troops... stormtroopers,
2.1 tell me about their standard rifles. is it a generic modern day assault rifle or a direct energy weapon ?
2.2 do they wear flak armor or carapace one?
Based on what has been said
1) focused burn through armor plasma bolts
2) The Panzerjaeger and stormtroopers can mix/match arms and rifles and weapons and masked heads .
3) Standard rifles are based on Marks' fluff comprable to Auto rifles shooting solid projectiles, but as GW has auto and las rifles at same strength etc, no biggy there. Looks like they now have carbines with grenade launchers too, and a S.A.W.
4) Carapace based on the looks of the armor/gear.
I have a platoon of stormtroopers made, and will add in PanzerJaegers, maybe get another box of stormies so I can make 2 coed squads.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/04 06:32:46
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Any news on that rule set Nosegoblin? I ended up with like 50 stormtroopers, 20 valkir, 12 Black Widows (panzerjaegers now) and an APC and I'd love a game where I can use them as the only other option at the moment seems to be some odd looking Karist proxies for dakkas MEdge or yet even more IG/Space Marines if I got desperate enough to pick up 40k again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/04 10:05:52
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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I know that Dreamforge does provided its own gameverse to these miniatures but I don't see its storylines in Dreamforge website. This dakka thread appears to provide more in-dept info on what's going on but still no backstory mew!. Not that who are the Eisenkern nor how do this faction comes to exists. except that it is modelled after WW2 Wehrmacht military might (indeed much of their military hardware was advanded, and everybody else around them just either looted, or copied everything they had... for example... 'Assault Rifles' and 'hexagonal hull armored cars'.... The US Army did experiment on a new APC design initially based on SdKfz 251, and so did the postwar Soviet BTRs (i guesS) modelled after the 222 (i think) ). with modern interpretations inspired by James Cameron's Aliens movie. but i'm still looking forward to see whether did the Eisenkern has a Main Battle Tank... if in 40k, the Space Marines use LandRaider, and the IG chose Leman Russ (which actually a mixture of British WW1 Landships and French Char B1(And possibly the heavier French C2) )
Also did the Shadokesh equivalent to Eldar in 40k?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/04 10:51:52
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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In a van down by the river
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DFG's website crashed a while ago and I don't think Mark has circled back to replace everything. He might have also decided to completely re-write the fluff, in which case nothing that follows is accurate.
Fictionally, the divergence begins in the late 1800s when gates are discovered in various places on Earth that allow travel across space. Colonies are founded, exploration begins, World War 1 begins (though in this case there wouldn't be a Second). The Germans use technology they've acquired on other worlds to hold everyone off for a time, but then a mysterious virus begins decimating their population. As millions of people die, others flee to their off-world colonies, which are strangely not affected, through the gates. The other nations of the world simply quarantine the area and let the plague burn itself out while prohibiting gate travel as the suspected root cause. These refugees and off-world colonists of Imperial Germany are the basis of the Eisenkern. The vehicles are based on Wehrmacht designs because if you stick with WW1 tech, you're making an armored barn and done.
In the meantime, a cult has sprung up around the gate network known as The Brotherhood. When they demonstrate an immunity to the plague and the ability to safely guide others through the network, this cult becomes a de facto government for a time and tells the nations when they can travel where. Eventually the US gets tired of this (because we're jerks) and unilaterally ejects The Brotherhood and resumes "normal" operations. The other powers of the world soon follow suit. Eventually over-use the gates results in a tragedy of the commons, and Earth ends up being effectively destroyed by the collapse of the gate network on the planet. A similar exodus is repeated by those who can make it, and that gives us the other factions like the Commonwealth, the Protectorate and such. The Brotherhood resumed it's place as a key power by controlling travel through the network, I'm assuming with a bit of "Told you so" about the affair.
The Shadokesh are more akin to Tyranids than Eldar; they're more of a hive-mind-with-individuals (i.e. - they commune with the hive-mind periodically, but when they're not doing that they're independent) and completely callous as regards things in their way. The Eisenkern, furthest-flung of humanity, are basically the bulwark against the Shadokesh consuming the rest of the powers. Leviathans were purportedly based on things employed by the Shadokesh, so I'd expect to see something similar from them whenever Mark gets around to fleshing out that faction.
Again, all of that may be invalidated by v2 of the fluff if Mark chose to redo it. That's what the old PDFs mostly said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/04 12:33:15
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Thanks for the heads up on the North Star sale.
Just picked up the APC to add to the to do pile
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/04 18:58:18
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Krinsath wrote:DFG's website crashed a while ago and I don't think Mark has circled back to replace everything. He might have also decided to completely re-write the fluff, in which case nothing that follows is accurate.
Fictionally, the divergence begins in the late 1800s when gates are discovered in various places on Earth that allow travel across space. Colonies are founded, exploration begins, World War 1 begins (though in this case there wouldn't be a Second). The Germans use technology they've acquired on other worlds to hold everyone off for a time, but then a mysterious virus begins decimating their population. As millions of people die, others flee to their off-world colonies, which are strangely not affected, through the gates. The other nations of the world simply quarantine the area and let the plague burn itself out while prohibiting gate travel as the suspected root cause. These refugees and off-world colonists of Imperial Germany are the basis of the Eisenkern. The vehicles are based on Wehrmacht designs because if you stick with WW1 tech, you're making an armored barn and done.
In the meantime, a cult has sprung up around the gate network known as The Brotherhood. When they demonstrate an immunity to the plague and the ability to safely guide others through the network, this cult becomes a de facto government for a time and tells the nations when they can travel where. Eventually the US gets tired of this (because we're jerks) and unilaterally ejects The Brotherhood and resumes "normal" operations. The other powers of the world soon follow suit. Eventually over-use the gates results in a tragedy of the commons, and Earth ends up being effectively destroyed by the collapse of the gate network on the planet. A similar exodus is repeated by those who can make it, and that gives us the other factions like the Commonwealth, the Protectorate and such. The Brotherhood resumed it's place as a key power by controlling travel through the network, I'm assuming with a bit of "Told you so" about the affair.
The Shadokesh are more akin to Tyranids than Eldar; they're more of a hive-mind-with-individuals (i.e. - they commune with the hive-mind periodically, but when they're not doing that they're independent) and completely callous as regards things in their way. The Eisenkern, furthest-flung of humanity, are basically the bulwark against the Shadokesh consuming the rest of the powers. Leviathans were purportedly based on things employed by the Shadokesh, so I'd expect to see something similar from them whenever Mark gets around to fleshing out that faction.
Again, all of that may be invalidated by v2 of the fluff if Mark chose to redo it. That's what the old PDFs mostly said.
Hmm, I liken the Shadokesh to Dark Eldar, and with their tech the Tau, they have another race that is Nid/ork hybrid in the way they are described, or as close to a 40k parallel as it comes. Maybe Shadokesh also show signs of more Dark Necrons as a hybrid of DE and Crons. The background when I read it was very interesting indeed.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/04 21:19:40
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Las Vegas
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Or, he could use his own ideas and not try to shoehorn in analogues to other games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/04 23:02:58
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Just saw this, I'm definitely going to pick something up with this sale
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/05 04:41:12
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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shade1313 wrote:Or, he could use his own ideas and not try to shoehorn in analogues to other games.
Oh no, it was just that people were discussing the analogies as so many have had 40k in their face most of their miniature games lives. I myself was showing that these miniature planned are, based on their concepts, close to a mish-mash of known forces just for a comparing of their differences. The Shadowkesh are definitely unique as they actually resemble something batlike, but with four eyes, and their Psychopathic tendencies are interesting, and I can't wait to see how their weapons and tech work in comparison. The closest they come to 40k is that they act like DE, but use tech shaped like something crons would use or so, hence my calling them Dark-Crons.
Another race, the Grendel? they use biotech weapons and such, so there is the closest approximation to Nids, but the also look closer to and act in some ways Orky, so hence the Tyran-Ork comparison.
Fluff for the Eisenkern vs Shadowkesh is more like Germany 1943-45 doing what they could to slow their losses to the allies on all fronts, and they will in the long run lose, but they will make the enemy pay for every inch, every world as they retreat or hold.
the other human factions are also a bit fragmented, and odd as they once shared Earth, but have become space faring societies not for the sake of empire building, but because of the destruction they fled as Earth was destroyed. It was all interesting reading on his old site.
Iron Core universe is definitely NOT a 40k derivative.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/05 11:57:06
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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More about Protecterates and the Commonwealths. were the Protectorate the former USA or France or Russia? and were Commonwealths the former British Empire?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/05 12:20:37
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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In a van down by the river
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Protectorate is the former Communist-bloc so Russia, China and southeast Asia. The Commonwealth is the EU minus Germany, basically. I'd imagine Eastern Europe fell in with the Protectorate as Germany was something of a deadzone dividing the continent. The Elysium Republic is the US and the rest of the Americas. You also have minor human powers in the Independent States and then you have Households within the factions (likely as a plot device to allow wildly divergent color schemes in a given faction.
Then for alien factions you have the Kraggen, Shadokesh and Dhar-Hazier.
I'll see if I can get these PDFs off my iPad sometime with the factions and history. Again, they might be out-of-date with changes planned out in the intervening years, but they still give an idea of where Mark is likely headed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/05 18:50:21
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Fixture of Dakka
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I must admit that I really liked the fluff for the Kraggen.
Since they are not yet mentioned:
They are rather larger with a slightly reptilian look about them. Prominent nose crest/blade. They were the one alien race that readily accepted humans and made alliances and shared technology.
Their empire was relatively small, and they are usually non-aggressive (almost monk-like). However, don't antagonize them as they are prone to short bursts of physical violence. (just imagine the large nerdy kid in school that doesn't react to a bully until he takes too much crap, then body slams said bully.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isfn4OxCPQs
They are enemies with the Dhar-Hazier, and often have a combined arms system with humans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/05 19:48:25
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Oh yeah the Kraggen, who also seem to have a affinity for warping or using warp as a weapon. (Not at all 40k just the same effects as the gates, but they can control it from their mind/body.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/10 00:05:46
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Here's a little something I've been working on. It's still a work in progress, but basically I was trying to bulk-out a 15mm Leviathan to use as an Imperial Knight for 40k. I just tossed in a Lord of Skulls torso onto the Leviathan kit and it looks pretty good, especially the way the head sits on the neck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/10 00:10:07
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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I really don't want to be mean, but with the legs that short, it looks a bit Baymaxish. You need to lengthen them some.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/10 00:29:06
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Fixture of Dakka
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shade1313 wrote:I really don't want to be mean, but with the legs that short, it looks a bit Baymaxish. You need to lengthen them some.
Yeah, I lovingly refer to him as "The Gorilla". However, look at the Imperial knight. It's really not any better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/10 01:21:16
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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He looks like a chubby baby.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 01:16:54
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Otiose in a Niche
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 02:13:01
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Fixture of Dakka
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There are so many things you can make with those MULEs, it's so versatile.
I hope they play a role in the game, too!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 08:29:39
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Oh mein feldherr oberflegel truppe leiter shrege kerl, ueber there is the enemy!
I feel an iron sky army idea blossoming in my head
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 12:11:47
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Dankhold Troggoth
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That platoon commander looks really good!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 12:27:44
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Posts with Authority
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Have I mentioned how much I love that Medic?
He's not posing heroically while one of his battle brothers die, so he can harvest the gene seed - he is setting off across the battlefield at a dead run to get to there before it is too late.
The MULE is great in that role. (Anyone else reminded of the old computer game M.U.L.E.?)
The Auld Grump
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/22 00:29:21
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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I went a different route for my 2nd Keilerkopf weapon system [/img] front view [/img]
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/22 00:34:33
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (NEW RELEASE Panzerjagers! +May Mecha Madness!!)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Nice.
Mark, since this KS is pretty much done for (except for a few bits and bobs mile 15mm cap coolers and keilerkopf parts), do you think it would serve Dreamforge better to have a fresh thread for news?
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