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A very specific question.

I’m off to NYC in June/July, plague allowing.

Is there anywhere I can go to fling some lead down a range? I remember looking before, and the one I found wasn’t open to non-US citizens, if memory serves.

Not looking for anything crazy fun, just somewhere to test the eye in a safe and practical environment.

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Come further south (as in South Carolina) and you can burn through some ammo on my range.

If you're limited too NY, the upstate area might have more options, but that is just a guess on my part.

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Just NYC, but thank you for the offer, I may take you up on that on another trip

Seems in NYC, and some of the surrounding area (my geography is terrible) you need a license :(

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yellowfever wrote:
I'm thinking about getting a 1911, but I'm not sure what the good ones are anymore. Do you guys have any suggestions. I'm looking to spend around 1,500 and I will CCW with it.


The Springfield Armory Ronin is a bit cheaper, but seems to be a pretty nice pistol. Gets good reviews. I admittedly do not have one but am considering getting one.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Just NYC, but thank you for the offer, I may take you up on that on another trip

Seems in NYC, and some of the surrounding area (my geography is terrible) you need a license :(


Yeah, NYC is notoriously restrictive. Don't want to slide into politics and get the thread killed though.

Maybe someone from there can recommend a club/range that would let you shoot.

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No need for the politics from me

Rules is rules, and being a dirty tourist it’s not for me to question.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
A very specific question.

I’m off to NYC in June/July, plague allowing.

Is there anywhere I can go to fling some lead down a range? I remember looking before, and the one I found wasn’t open to non-US citizens, if memory serves.

Not looking for anything crazy fun, just somewhere to test the eye in a safe and practical environment.

This link might help. You can use the filters to find what you want.
https://www.wheretoshoot.org/
It looks like you're going to have to leave NYC to shoot anything other than a .22 rifle.

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yellowfever wrote:
I'm thinking about getting a 1911, but I'm not sure what the good ones are anymore. Do you guys have any suggestions. I'm looking to spend around 1,500 and I will CCW with it.


I have a Kimber Custom 2. Only have about 300 rounds through it, and I still get at least 2 F2Fs per mag. Once it's "fully broken in" (I'm being told between 500-1000 rounds), then it should run smoothly. Wouldn't recommend for carry unless you're willing to put in the work before it gets there.

I'll second Springfield. Their new Emissary line looks great

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Thanks guys, I shoot fairly often so putting in the work is no problem. Plus I have other guns I currently carry so no need to rush on my part. I was leaning towards Springfield but wanted to see if anyone had personal experience with them first.
   
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For 1911s, the Springfield Operator is another really nice 1911 in that price range. $1300. Nice and modern looking, but keeps the 1911 feel.



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yellowfever wrote:
I'm thinking about getting a 1911, but I'm not sure what the good ones are anymore. Do you guys have any suggestions. I'm looking to spend around 1,500 and I will CCW with it.


I've heard good things about Rock Island Armory's 1911 clone. It looks like a vintage 1911, but with a couple little tweeks. It's very inexpensive as well. It's reliable, and that's the main thing you want for a CCW. I figure, if it's reliable and easy to use, you shouldn't have a gun pricey enough that you freak out when it gets used and roughed up.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
For 1911s, the Springfield Operator is another really nice 1911 in that price range. $1300. Nice and modern looking, but keeps the 1911 feel.

*Snip snap, big picture*

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That is one purty gun, damn.

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The two pics above have what I might call block triggers, rather than triggery triggers.

I know enough that one squeezes, rather than pulls a trigger. I assume the block trigger helps with that?

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The two pics above have what I might call block triggers, rather than triggery triggers.

I know enough that one squeezes, rather than pulls a trigger. I assume the block trigger helps with that?


Yes. Not only is it single action, but the trigger doesn't pivot from a hinge point. The trigger moves straight back.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The two pics above have what I might call block triggers, rather than triggery triggers.

I know enough that one squeezes, rather than pulls a trigger. I assume the block trigger helps with that?


I wouldn't describe a sliding rather than pivoting trigger as inherently better or worse, it's just a different style. I've experienced very good and very bad examples of both.

   
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 catbarf wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The two pics above have what I might call block triggers, rather than triggery triggers.

I know enough that one squeezes, rather than pulls a trigger. I assume the block trigger helps with that?


I wouldn't describe a sliding rather than pivoting trigger as inherently better or worse, it's just a different style. I've experienced very good and very bad examples of both.


To me the biggest difference is the single vs double action trigger. While I've experienced some very good double action triggers or double/single action triggers my favorite triggers have been on single action only pistols of the 1911 variants. As a side note, very interested in the SA-35 because the magazine disconnect in the Hi-power always seemed to add some slop.

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Double Action triggers will always be less crisp, all else being equal, than single action simply because you have to exert force over time and then you have the break. Single action only has the trigger break.

My P94 does however has a very nice light trigger pull despite being double action, and it is nice being able to have the hammer dropped on a live round so there is basically no chance of mechanical failure. With a 1911 the hammer will always be cocked if there is a live round in the chamber.

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Isn’t that what Arne uses in The Terminator?

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Isn’t that what Arne uses in The Terminator?


You got it. Hence the Gargoyles sunglasses.

I have a soft spot for 80s tacticool garbage and the AMT Hardballer Longslide with that one-of-a-kind laser sight is a standout example. It took a fair bit of work to track down the gun, the sight mount, and an airsoft copy of the laser, which I then had to gut and re-wire to make functional and hold zero under recoil.

   
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Does a scope that size impact racking it at all?

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trexmeyer wrote:
Does a scope that size impact racking it at all?


And moreso, is it inconvenient running the battery cable up your right sleeve and into your coat pocket?

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Its gonna get the heck beat out of it from recoil over time. Slide mounted sights aren't exactly known for longevity, but it is really cool.

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trexmeyer wrote:Does a scope that size impact racking it at all?


I've got freakish hand strength so I have no trouble pinching the slide serrations, but there definitely is less contact surface. Also, it's not a scope despite appearance, it's actually a laser.

Grey Templar wrote:Its gonna get the heck beat out of it from recoil over time. Slide mounted sights aren't exactly known for longevity, but it is really cool.


And it's not slide-mounted, either. NPC grip mount. Here's the other side:


   
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Ahh, well that is definitely much better in that case.

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An elongated AMT Harballer has always been on my bucket list (thank you Hitman), so that's really cool that you managed to find one. I've been considering just buying a Fusion 80% kit, and just doing it that way.

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Well, from the "never meet your heroes" department, I have an update on my deagle situation.

I have wanted a Deag for the longest time - at least 20 years. This year, as a "I didn't lose my job" gift (we had a hellish company re-org), I finally got the deagle, the 50ae with the integral muzzle brake. That was around June or July and I never actually... shot it.

The other day, we had some unseasonably warm weather - 70 degrees in December in the midwest. I took that opportunity to finally shoot 2 guns I had never shot - a 9mm SBR PCC and my deag.

Not a good time. I could not believe how much recoil it had - very unpleasant to shoot. I brought 60 rounds but called it a day at 20 or so.

I'm not a total more - I did rent and shoot a deagle just like this at my local range about 5 years ago, and it was just fine. Stout recoil but not, you know, unpleasant? I wish I knew what the difference was. Either that one was nice and broken in, springwise - that is my hope - or I was just a lot physically stronger 5 years ago. That is sadly the more likely possibility with the combination of nerve damage in my right wrist and 2 years of remote work where I barely move all day.

I am already thinking of selling it. I know I could get the 44 conversion but is it really even a deagle at that point anymore? I would say not. I am alternately hoping it just needs to break in a bit. I am already using only 300gr ammo, I don't think they make 50ae with less - and of course, it might not cycle with less, anyway.

As a final side note to this essay - one of those 50 cal cases flew back into my face so hard it left a small chip right in the center of my right eyeglass lens. Wear your ballistic glasses, they are cheap.

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What grain were you shooting?

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 Ouze wrote:
I am already thinking of selling it. I know I could get the 44 conversion but is it really even a deagle at that point anymore? I would say not. I am alternately hoping it just needs to break in a bit. I am already using only 300gr ammo, I don't think they make 50ae with less - and of course, it might not cycle with less, anyway.

As a final side note to this essay - one of those 50 cal cases flew back into my face so hard it left a small chip right in the center of my right eyeglass lens. Wear your ballistic glasses, they are cheap.


I hate to say it, but it's unlikely to get better as it breaks in. .50AE is a very strong cartridge. A case hitting your face is also a classic sign of not holding it tightly enough- you're supposed to fully extend and lock your dominant arm, and keep your wrist tight. If you're right-handed, well, that would track with nerve damage in your wrist.

But as far as caliber: The original Desert Eagle was .357 Magnum, then .44, and .50AE was the latecomer. So there's nothing wrong with the lighter calibers, and .357 in particular is a soft, downright pleasant round with the weight of the pistol. Most of the folks I know who own Eagles in .50AE primarily shoot .44 instead. .50AE is a meme cartridge.

I would also say you could add more weight to help tame the recoil, but if you have wrist strength issues then that might be a bad idea. I use an Ultradot on mine, and it both provides a good sighting solution and adds a bit of weight to the muzzle. Real one is rightmost, other two are airsoft:

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