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It would be awfully cramped inside a battle suit if you had hand operated controls. Do they use a system where you "link" their mind with the suit, and see through its cameras? Any ideas?

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Battlesuits were originally described as being neural controlled, so some sort of link system, either hardwired or hardware, likely hardwired since they even mention that form of upgrade for commanders (hardwired drone controllers and such)

The Old fluff even mentioned that battlesuit pilots would sometimes develop a neurosis and become a sort of lone wolf, this was a symptom of having so much personal power attached to the suit kinda making the pilot become a bit imbalanced, and lead to them taking the montant (spelling) path , without a squad, again all old fluff.

Hope this helps a bit.

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In the last chancers books, a guardsman tries to steal a battlesuit for himself. When he opens it there are some hand operated controls, but also a large neural sensor thing. His suggests that its largely powered by neural input, but with a few muscle-memory aided inputs.

It also fries the guardsman once he's inside, so the computer aboard the battlesuit is self-aware rather interestingly, so that could also contribute more detail to the neuro-input.
   
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The novelisation of "fire warrior" does give some details on the suits (from supporting Fire caste characters).

Mostly neural controls - and the suit does have its own 'mind' about on the same level as a drone, but it does this to enhance the pilot abilities, warning him about various things and so on.

Wouldn't surprise me if they had anti-jacking subroutines (which Battletech had in the fluff for its mecha back in the 80s).

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 Afrodactyl wrote:
It also fries the guardsman once he's inside, so the computer aboard the battlesuit is self-aware rather interestingly, so that could also contribute more detail to the neuro-input.

There's really nothing at all to indicate that - much more likely that there was some sort of measure on startup to prevent just that sort of theft from occurring. Unfortunately, since the guy couldn't read Tau, he didn't see the 'enter authorization code in 10...9...' warning.

 
   
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It uses a neural interface.

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 Portugal Jones wrote:
 Afrodactyl wrote:
It also fries the guardsman once he's inside, so the computer aboard the battlesuit is self-aware rather interestingly, so that could also contribute more detail to the neuro-input.

There's really nothing at all to indicate that - much more likely that there was some sort of measure on startup to prevent just that sort of theft from occurring. Unfortunately, since the guy couldn't read Tau, he didn't see the 'enter authorization code in 10...9...' warning.


Isn't it more likely that an interface designed for Tau brain would not be able to handle the divine majesty of a human brain, leading to deadly consequences? That is what happens when you try to use inferior xenos technology.

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 Trickstick wrote:
 Portugal Jones wrote:
 Afrodactyl wrote:
It also fries the guardsman once he's inside, so the computer aboard the battlesuit is self-aware rather interestingly, so that could also contribute more detail to the neuro-input.

There's really nothing at all to indicate that - much more likely that there was some sort of measure on startup to prevent just that sort of theft from occurring. Unfortunately, since the guy couldn't read Tau, he didn't see the 'enter authorization code in 10...9...' warning.


Isn't it more likely that an interface designed for Tau brain would not be able to handle the divine majesty of a human brain, leading to deadly consequences? That is what happens when you try to use inferior xenos technology.


Probably not. I think it much more likely that battlesuits have a security system to prevent people (of any race) wandering off with them I'm sure you could get a human to think like a Tau (cf. Firefox )

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With a primitive and unstable neural interface. While the Imperium has smaller and stabler equivalents, for controlling bionics or power armor (or just straight up having soft AI controlling the more delicate functions, such as targetting adjustments and, for sentinels, the whole balance and walking thing); for the AdMech: mechadendrites, the noosphere, direct interfaces with normal Imperial machines, etc; and in only the largest and most sophisticated/complicated/powerful systems (titans, the larger warships) does the user suffer anything approaching the described issue the Tau have with their suits.

 
   
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The all mighty hand of an old one moves them. Be it 6 inches or less. The will of the old one allows them to fire one or perhaps two weapons if said old one has the suit properly equipped. Most important of all, the old one and his number generators allow the crisis suit to move a distance between 2 and 12 inches, when other less fortunate individuals can't move at all!

I think people said neural interface.

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 Trickstick wrote:
 Portugal Jones wrote:
 Afrodactyl wrote:
It also fries the guardsman once he's inside, so the computer aboard the battlesuit is self-aware rather interestingly, so that could also contribute more detail to the neuro-input.

There's really nothing at all to indicate that - much more likely that there was some sort of measure on startup to prevent just that sort of theft from occurring. Unfortunately, since the guy couldn't read Tau, he didn't see the 'enter authorization code in 10...9...' warning.


Isn't it more likely that an interface designed for Tau brain would not be able to handle the divine majesty of a human brain, leading to deadly consequences? That is what happens when you try to use inferior xenos technology.

For the actual situation in question, the guy got in and managed to get the suit closed and then a few moments later, the suit opened back up and his most severely fried corpse fell back out, pretty clearly showing that on top of whatever other problems he would've encountered, he triggered some sort of security measure.

 
   
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 Flinty wrote:
 Trickstick wrote:
 Portugal Jones wrote:
 Afrodactyl wrote:
It also fries the guardsman once he's inside, so the computer aboard the battlesuit is self-aware rather interestingly, so that could also contribute more detail to the neuro-input.

There's really nothing at all to indicate that - much more likely that there was some sort of measure on startup to prevent just that sort of theft from occurring. Unfortunately, since the guy couldn't read Tau, he didn't see the 'enter authorization code in 10...9...' warning.


Isn't it more likely that an interface designed for Tau brain would not be able to handle the divine majesty of a human brain, leading to deadly consequences? That is what happens when you try to use inferior xenos technology.


Probably not. I think it much more likely that battlesuits have a security system to prevent people (of any race) wandering off with them I'm sure you could get a human to think like a Tau (cf. Firefox )


Oh god. And now here comes the tau-human half breed fan-fic we've all been dreading since that 'love can bloom' BS.

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FoWPlayerDeathOfUS.TDs wrote:
Chuck Norris makes the tau suit fry itself due to reducing its self esteem due to the sheer awesomeness of him. Than it explodes and kills space marines with shrapnel.


Meh bruce lee still killed chuck norris and chuck norris hides from this fact. He probably makes oatmeal raisin cookies for bruce lee while wearing an apron and bruce lee looks disgusted back at chuck norris and hits chuck norris telling him to get back to the kitchen.

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