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2013/04/05 21:12:06
Subject: Indications Australian Games Day Cancelled
Anonymous source from faeit212 wrote:You may be aware of this already, sorry if you are. I was just told today that Australia will not hold a Games Day event this year. The reason given was that the venue wanted to increase the cost and Australia now has less staff (due to the 1 man stores primarily) so they would not be able to really staff the event anyway.
Personally I consider this a pretty big blow to the gaming community in Oz. On top of what continues to go on with prices, now all those customers that actually remain loyal won't be given the chance to meet artists, sculptors etc and enjoy the spectacle that is Games Day. Basically because of a push to reduce staff for more profitable stores it seems.
Passing this on so maybe you can get the word out anyway, who knows Games Workshop may change their mind if they have enough people complaining talking to them about this. Stranger things have happened.
The other thread was only 2.5 weeks since the last post so I think this could've been put in there.
But, as you say -Loki-, it won't make much difference. Baltimore lost it's GamesDay, and the gaming scene is absolutely flourishing here now (although it's Privateer Press and independent companies who picked up the slack as seems to be a trend!).
Closing stores, cancelling events, prices twice that of the rest of the world. Any other company would want to be a success down under. Not GW though. They've got bigger plans it seems... plans that don't involve making any money.
cincydooley wrote: We should just sink the island already. Right? Right?
H.B.M.C. wrote: Closing stores, cancelling events, prices twice that of the rest of the world. Any other company would want to be a success down under. Not GW though. They've got bigger plans it seems... plans that don't involve making any money.
This is what disturbs me. If your company is not going to fundamentally market your product, you need those others tools such as Games Day to promote the Hobby you are in. Since 2010 GW has been removing whatever promotion abilities that they had before which are:
The tournament scene, Games Day, reduction of hours in the store hours. In 2009 in the US it was 55 hours per week, 2010 35 hours per week. The reduction of time then shifted over to their one man store business model. There has been a great deal of quality services removed by the corporation. How can they even think of doing well when they are cannibalizing their way of doing any sort of PR, by removal of services?
I don't know. Perhaps the next phase is the closure of lower than expected GW stores as they try (I believe) to push their sales online.
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Also, how does one apply to be a member of the Ultramodrines? Are harsh trials involved, ones that would test my faith as a wargamer and resolve as a geek?
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2013/04/06 02:59:07
Subject: Re:Indications Australian Games Day Cancelled
Adam LongWalker wrote: This is what disturbs me. If your company is not going to fundamentally market your product, you need those others tools such as Games Day to promote the Hobby you are in. Since 2010 GW has been removing whatever promotion abilities that they had before which are:
It really disturbs me that GW expect to survive on word of mouth advertising and/or existing customers when they only seem to piss off the existing customers and vets who are the ones spreading that word of mouth.
2013/04/06 03:07:17
Subject: Indications Australian Games Day Cancelled
Adam LongWalker wrote: This is what disturbs me. If your company is not going to fundamentally market your product, you need those others tools such as Games Day to promote the Hobby you are in. Since 2010 GW has been removing whatever promotion abilities that they had before which are:
It really disturbs me that GW expect to survive on word of mouth advertising and/or existing customers when they only seem to piss off the existing customers and vets who are the ones spreading that word of mouth.
I agree and I have seen this trend happened to other companies over the years (the pissing off the customer base and the vets that is). If you are not going to advertise in the normal fashion and the other perceived method is word of mouth, then you need those other tools (as I have posted above)to make it work.
I don't see any alternate methods of advertising/marketing tools being used. Only WD, One man stores, low quality vids on Youtube and their web site are their perceived methods of advertising, which are low cost to do.
Table Top Games involve social Interaction. Take that away and your customer base is going to leave and find other alternatives, like other game companies to spend their money on.
Adam's Motto: Paint, Create, Play, but above all, have fun. -and for something silly below-
"We are the Ultramodrines, And We Shall Fear No Trolls. bear this USR with pride".
Also, how does one apply to be a member of the Ultramodrines? Are harsh trials involved, ones that would test my faith as a wargamer and resolve as a geek?
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2013/04/06 03:44:57
Subject: Indications Australian Games Day Cancelled
cincydooley wrote: It was absolutely a joke. Sorry I wasn't clear on that.
Don't lose hope, it can be done. We hid a plug under Uluru, so if you can brave the desert and defeat the koala guardian
then you stand a chance at sinking our great nation. Of course, we've planned for that eventuality too, turning our nation's greatest resource into our saving grace
So really you can't stop us.
edit: that has to be one of the most pointless rambly posts I've made on here...something on topic...never went to a games day, never was going to?
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
2013/04/06 04:37:27
Subject: Re:Indications Australian Games Day Cancelled
They would be better served sponsoring a large independent con, where they can recruit new players or even lure back old players who have gotten disgruntled at their support of army xyz.
Gamesday is "hey people who already give us money, please give us more money" it doesn't achieve anything.
Unfortunately an independent con has the downside of companies with better miniatures and half the cost being under the same roof. And competition is hard (for them).
2013/04/06 04:54:20
Subject: Indications Australian Games Day Cancelled
cincydooley wrote: It was absolutely a joke. Sorry I wasn't clear on that.
Don't lose hope, it can be done. We hid a plug under Uluru, so if you can brave the desert and defeat the koala guardian
Dude! Why did you tell them about the plug. The Guardian Koala is gonna have his work cut out for him beating down the yanks trying to pull the plug if they all know. Now we're gonna have to unleash the Roos on them!
2013/04/06 05:48:30
Subject: Indications Australian Games Day Cancelled
The only possible conclusion we can draw from this series of events.
When Tom Kirby was a young man, he fell in love with a local neighborhood girl, Jane. Tom brought her flowers every day, and made her mix tapes he'd leave on her doorstep. Jane was a quiet, introverted type, and she simply found Tom's type-A personality to be overbearing and intimidating. Tom saw this, and softened his attempts. He helped her mum with groceries, and spent more time at the library. Eventually, Tom won her over and took her on a date. One date became several, and before long, they were often seen together over a plate of bangers and mash.
Although Tom adored Jane and would have done anything for her, they really didn't share the same interests. Tom was a very outdoorsy, rugged type - his idea of an afternoon well spent was a brisk hike into the hills; while Jane was much more of a homebody. She loved painting, and particularly tin soldiers. Jane had never known her father - he died when she was a baby - and the tin soldiers she had were all she had left to remember him by. She would re-enact great battles with them, spending the whole day with them, imagining her father bravely fighting off evil hordes. Tom would try and bring her into camping, and fishing, but her heart really wasn't in it, and eventually she would have none of it.
One day, Tom came home early from a fishing trip. When he walked in, out of the rain, he was crestfallen to see Jane - his sweet, sweet Jane - with the bookish Australian exchange student, Oliver. He turned and ran away, sobbing. Jane came after him, and caught him. Her turned to her - ready to forgive, ready to accept her back - but she didn't come after him for that. "I'm sorry, Tom", she said. "It can never be between us. Oliver is everything you're not". With a choked sob, she ran back into the house.
Tom stared at her, a lone tear glistening down his cheek. In the window he saw Oliver, holding up a tiny miniature, his face radiant when Jane touched her hand to his to examine the finely cast details.
Someday.... I'll destroy something he loves; Tom thought. Some day.
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2013/04/06 08:26:03
Subject: Re:Indications Australian Games Day Cancelled
Ouze wrote: The only possible conclusion we can draw from this series of events.
When Tom Kirby was a young man, he fell in love with a local neighborhood girl, Jane. Tom brought her flowers every day, and made her mix tapes he'd leave on her doorstep. Jane was a quiet, introverted type, and she simply found Tom's type-A personality to be overbearing and intimidating. Tom saw this, and softened his attempts. He helped her mum with groceries, and spent more time at the library. Eventually, Tom won her over and took her on a date. One date became several, and before long, they were often seen together over a plate of bangers and mash.
Although Tom adored Jane and would have done anything for her, they really didn't share the same interests. Tom was a very outdoorsy, rugged type - his idea of an afternoon well spent was a brisk hike into the hills; while Jane was much more of a homebody. She loved painting, and particularly tin soldiers. Jane had never known her father - he died when she was a baby - and the tin soldiers she had were all she had left to remember him by. She would re-enact great battles with them, spending the whole day with them, imagining her father bravely fighting off evil hordes. Tom would try and bring her into camping, and fishing, but her heart really wasn't in it, and eventually she would have none of it.
One day, Tom came home early from a fishing trip. When he walked in, out of the rain, he was crestfallen to see Jane - his sweet, sweet Jane - with the bookish Australian exchange student, Oliver. He turned and ran away, sobbing. Jane came after him, and caught him. Her turned to her - ready to forgive, ready to accept her back - but she didn't come after him for that. "I'm sorry, Tom", she said. "It can never be between us. Oliver is everything you're not". With a choked sob, she ran back into the house.
Tom stared at her, a lone tear glistening down his cheek. In the window he saw Oliver, holding up a tiny miniature, his face radiant when Jane touched her hand to his to examine the finely cast details.
Someday.... I'll destroy something he loves; Tom thought. Some day.
Add some zombies and you could sell that as a blockbuster.
I'd like to say Hank Johnson was clearly being facetious. On the other hand, he is the successor to famous crazyperson Cynthia McKinney, so I don't think I can presume that.
lord_blackfang wrote: Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
as seems to be a trend!).
