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The Fiends were fun to paint. I got my set back in December and am almost finished with them. Then back to the Kthones I set aside to work the Fiends instead.

The fiends have tempted me for some time now.

I'm thinking I might plunk down for those alternate versions from the New Kindreds campaign.

Still no idea on whether or not that Rat Beasts' weapon arm is a drill like the art, or a blade, or what.

Yet to assemble mine, but the casts looked great when I had a look

Have they shipped the "all the units" pledge yet, or are we waiting on everything to be done? I think I missed that..

which KS?

If you paid for the appropriate waves they've shipped the finished bits of them at appropriate times

(I've had some of the stuff from my Darklands First Edition II 'all the initial units' pledge, which is the only one I've been in a position to afford, and should be getting some more reletiy soon)

if you just opted for the single huge box when it's all done there's a some still to do

Right question for all....
Is anyone using mierce minis for warhammer fb?

I am about to start playing wfb as a friend has got into it, and I have or will have soon: (as well as some warlords etc for each)

1) Norse hrafnan crew, trolls and blood maw bitey thing
2) Byzantii semi demons, erebius on mount, foot soldiers and big daemon
Or 3)Albain ogithurie and foot soldiers

I'd love to use these minis as sooo much better than gw, But not sure what army could I proxy these for? Any ideas?

barnacle111 wrote:
Right question for all....
Is anyone using mierce minis for warhammer fb?

I am about to start playing wfb as a friend has got into it, and I have or will have soon: (as well as some warlords etc for each)

1) Norse hrafnan crew, trolls and blood maw bitey thing
2) Byzantii semi demons, erebius on mount, foot soldiers and big daemon
Or 3)Albain ogithurie and foot soldiers

I'd love to use these minis as sooo much better than gw, But not sure what army could I proxy these for? Any ideas?

It's a bad time to get into Warhammer Fantasy as it appears that they are killing it (and possibly moving into a small-scale skirmish game á la 40k). Anyway, the Darklands figures are a lot larger than your standard warhammer figure, so it will be a bit hard to fit them in and look good. However, monsters are always monsters, and just use any as any "counts as".

barnacle111 wrote:
Right question for all....
Is anyone using mierce minis for warhammer fb?

I am about to start playing wfb as a friend has got into it, and I have or will have soon: (as well as some warlords etc for each)

1) Norse hrafnan crew, trolls and blood maw bitey thing
2) Byzantii semi demons, erebius on mount, foot soldiers and big daemon
Or 3)Albain ogithurie and foot soldiers

I'd love to use these minis as sooo much better than gw, But not sure what army could I proxy these for? Any ideas?

Yes, I've used a number of mierce models for my Warhammer armies. Some are obvious conversions - norse trolls as trolls, Tarmax as Minotaur, Euralia as a greater daemon of Slaanesh, Malacant as a demon Prince, etc. My Warriors of Chaos army used Dyndraig as Chaos Ogres, Mag Ap Mag as a chaos spawn, Shaaroc as a Shaggoth, Aradae Mawr as dragon ogres, Anrgrislaug as a fire breathing chimera (or dragon mount), Jowan's hounds as Chaos Hounds, and Ax-Drunes as Marauders.
I used Blood-Maw as a gorger in my Ogre Kingdoms army ("The Avatar of the Great Maw") where his role was to intimidate and draw more fire than a gorger should, and put Creoda at the front of a custom Ironblaster chasis. If combined books are a thing for ninth, I intend to use The Norse Ravens as Pegasus knights, supported by a Brythoniad and norse infantry. Erebius is apparently too large to use as a juggernaut, so I will probably use him as a blood chariot, mount some daemons riding the backs of the fiends as Skullcrushers, and add Krull to be a greater daemon of
So yes, you can use their stuff in Warhammer. I plan armies around the Mierce center pieces, and have yet to go to a GT and not walk away with an appearance award. Their stuff is awesome.
As for 9th edition killing Warhammer, it's a discussion for a different thread, but everyone thought the sky was falling when 8th was months away as well. The GT scene in the southern US (TX/LA/AR; the South region in the Masters) is really strong right now; our region is adding three brand new GTs this year that are hoping to become Masters qualifier events (50+ players). It's stronger down here than its been in probably eight or nine years, I somehow doubt that's going to go away all at once.

grefven wrote:


It's a bad time to get into Warhammer Fantasy as it appears that they are killing it (and possibly moving into a small-scale skirmish game á la 40k). Anyway, the Darklands figures are a lot larger than your standard warhammer figure, so it will be a bit hard to fit them in and look good. However, monsters are always monsters, and just use any as any "counts as".

That might be a good reason to use Mierce, if it becomes a skirmish game using less miniatures, a whole army would be more realistically affordable from them. And it isn't being killed, just freed up from 30 years of background.

The names used for these miniatures are so confusing...

nightshae007 wrote:
The names used for these miniatures are so confusing...

That's because they base a lot of them on old English/Celtic/welsh/Saxon language. The Brythoniaid, for example, are from Wales, so you see a lot of y's as vowels, longer names, etc. "Draig," for example, translates roughly to "dragon" in welsh, so the Dyndraig are "man dragons", the Cawrdraig is "giant Dragon" and "draiggoch" goes to literally "dragon red". They use historically stylized names for a couple of reasons; historical legitimacy being one, their founder being a big fan of dark-age style writing (Beowulf, etc) another, and as a way to make the factions unique but based on real-world things. A lot of the Angelcynn, for example, are named after actual historical figures. They just aren't as willing to compromise by using "wood elves" instead of "Asrai," or "executioners" instead of "Druchii" like other companies are - their units are named in their own native tongue. They've been asked about it in the past, and it's not something they're willing to compromise on.
After a few weeks of playing on their site, I could see a unit name and know the faction just from how the words were built. There's an initial learning curve, but it goes surprisingly quickly if you're willing to try it.

Agreed!

And good point JamesY - the End Times of WFB, which look to move it to more of a smaller scale skirmish game might actually help out Mierce quite a bit!

Of course I'm here for the actual Darklands game, so I'm eagerly awaiting the full rules and hardback...

My Khthon snake man wizard (who I believe was originally a Banebeast) is my go to Slann model. No fat froggies for me!

Of course, the Temple Guard got replaced with Darklands snakes and crocs as well...

I've been hoping the latest Banebeast campaign would've had some reptile stuff on offer, but that doesn't look like it's happening this time around.

What is the quality of their minis like? I've had my eye on the brutes of ys for a while, but having never seen their stuff offline I'm reluctant to spend £80 on a five man unit

 JamesY wrote:
What is the quality of their minis like? I've had my eye on the brutes of ys for a while, but having never seen their stuff offline I'm reluctant to spend £80 on a five man unit

Mind you really need to see their minis in the flesh to appreciate how BIG they are. It does make a difference. I got a Wyvern from them and the quality of the cast is perfect. When I just based my opinion on internet pics I also found them expensive, but when I actually seen them IRL I was sold.
I'm curious to see what they bring in this Salute.

 NAVARRO wrote:


Mind you really need to see their minis in the flesh to appreciate how BIG they are. It does make a difference. I got a Wyvern from them and the quality of the cast is perfect. When I just based my opinion on internet pics I also found them expensive, but when I actually seen them IRL I was sold.
I'm curious to see what they bring in this Salute.

Hmmm, I live in Nottingham and keep meaning to email their office to ask if they'd mind me coming over and taking a look, I should really pull my finger out and get in touch.

Where... where is your finger now?


In all seriousness though, the models are very nice. Sometimes the bits are rather thin for resin and a tad fragile, and sometimes there are the normal little mold slips you get sometimes with resin. I found them easy to clean though. As to fragile bits, I dunno what to do about that other than some replacement parts here and there, but over all the quality is quite nice. And the beasts are giant things.

 Wehrkind wrote:
Where... where is your finger now? .

Probably somewhere it shouldn't be... like hobbying rather than working. Interesting what you say about the small pieces, I'm getting a bit fed up of resin at the minute. I really need to see them for real I think.

Head on over to SALUTE this coming weekend - you won't be disappointed by either the convention OR Mierce's miniatures!

 JamesY wrote:

 Wehrkind wrote:
Where... where is your finger now? .

Probably somewhere it shouldn't be... like hobbying rather than working. Interesting what you say about the small pieces, I'm getting a bit fed up of resin at the minute. I really need to see them for real I think.

I am a big fan of resin in general, using it myself, but I do think that Mierce would do well to make some parts in metal. For example, I have the guy with a big ax and his bear form.


Very nice model, but that ax should have been cast in metal. It is only a little thicker than a thick paper clip, and it just catches and breaks constantly. Even casting it in resin with a thin wire inside would have helped.

So that's something to bear in mind, but then again the models by and large have swords etc, and so don't suffer quite so much from the spindly shaft problem. Just expect that with spears and long axes you might need to pin or replace some shafts.

By the by, anyone else find their site loads REALLY slowly, and sometimes just brings up the HTML? Chrome is just hating it today, although I haven't been on their site in a long time so it might be normal.

 Wehrkind wrote:

Very nice model, but that ax should have been cast in metal. It is only a little thicker than a thick paper clip, and it just catches and breaks constantly. Even casting it in resin with a thin wire inside would have helped.

So that's something to bear in mind, but then again the models by and large have swords etc, and so don't suffer quite so much from the spindly shaft problem. Just expect that with spears and long axes you might need to pin or replace some shafts.

By the by, anyone else find their site loads REALLY slowly, and sometimes just brings up the HTML? Chrome is just hating it today, although I haven't been on their site in a long time so it might be normal.

Ha - I see what you did there!

And yes, many weapon hafts absolutely should be in metal - it would help a lot.

Also, the Mierce Website almost always loads slowly - and I imagine the recent server issues haven't helped that any.

Yeah I keep meaning to attend Salute, maybe next time as I'll be busy next weekend (working). I don't mind pinning or re-enforcing the occasional figure, it's mainly the clean up on resin that bothers me. Finecast is about 90% of my experience of resin figures though, so perhaps Mierce's range is easier to prep?

 Wehrkind wrote:

 JamesY wrote:

 Wehrkind wrote:
Where... where is your finger now? .

Probably somewhere it shouldn't be... like hobbying rather than working. Interesting what you say about the small pieces, I'm getting a bit fed up of resin at the minute. I really need to see them for real I think.

I am a big fan of resin in general, using it myself, but I do think that Mierce would do well to make some parts in metal. For example, I have the guy with a big ax and his bear form.


Very nice model, but that ax should have been cast in metal. It is only a little thicker than a thick paper clip, and it just catches and breaks constantly. Even casting it in resin with a thin wire inside would have helped.

So that's something to bear in mind, but then again the models by and large have swords etc, and so don't suffer quite so much from the spindly shaft problem. Just expect that with spears and long axes you might need to pin or replace some shafts.

By the by, anyone else find their site loads REALLY slowly, and sometimes just brings up the HTML? Chrome is just hating it today, although I haven't been on their site in a long time so it might be normal.

Some of the later stuff (eg the dugeth warriors) have got wire cores in the spearshafts so they are taking ideas like that on board (I've broken Beowas ax myself)

as to the site they've recently had to replace the server and restore everything from backups (the site I think is mostly finished but the forums are still down),

so it could have been that Rob as fiddling with stuff on the back end today, it certainly seems to be working ok for me on chrome now

 JamesY wrote:
Yeah I keep meaning to attend Salute, maybe next time as I'll be busy next weekend (working). I don't mind pinning or re-enforcing the occasional figure, it's mainly the clean up on resin that bothers me. Finecast is about 90% of my experience of resin figures though, so perhaps Mierce's range is easier to prep?

Don't use Finecast as your basis for what resin does. Normal resin is no where near as bendy and tends to be hard and a tad brittle. Depending on the manufacturer and how much pressure they put it under it can range from "chalky" brittle to "hard plastic" brittle. Either way is usually fine, but just have to take care with the smaller bits of models and recognize you don't want to be tossing them around or yanking them out of the foam cases. A bit less resilient than plastic, but a bit more drop resistant than multi part metal.

Also, glad to hear that Mierce is starting to reinforce some bits. I love true scale models with proper sized bits, but they can be tough to play with for long.

After caving to some backer pressure, looks like some Darklands bits are going to make an appearance. These two for a start:


Haakon the Ograx for Darklands and Chaos Ogre for Banebeasts


Skaadi the Moraine Sorcerer for Darklands and Ice Elemental for Banebeasts



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Here's the offical update:

£8,500 - Ice Elemental / Skaadi, Moraine Sorcerer

It's time for a new twist in the saga of the BaneBeasts: Mighty Monsters - a new stretch goal with added Darklands interest, for our £8,500 goal is the Ice Elemental... which can also be used in Darklands for the Fomoraic as Skaadi the Moraine Sorcerer!



The Ice Elemental is the first of a new reward, the "SMALL MIGHTY MONSTER" - simply choose her as a reward or increase your existing pledge by £16 to get a hold of her!

The Ice Elemental is already sculpted (by the awesome Gauthier Giroud) and so will be sent to you with the first shipment wave of this project, Wave 8 or August 2015!

See. Peer pressure works!

Well, Banebeasts 2 seems to be underperforming, esepcially when compared to Banebeasts 1.

This is a smart move, though rather late in this campaign to expect too much.

I wonder if Mierce has reached the point where they really need to 100% fulfill man of their outstanding campaigns before they'll see big pledge totals?

They've already said no more Darklands stuff until the Rulebook is out, so that should help in that regard.

That Ice Elemental is a nice model for $20. This is what I've been waiting for with Mierce since the very beginning.

 Alpharius wrote:
Well, Banebeasts 2 seems to be underperforming, esepcially when compared to Banebeasts 1.

This is a smart move, though rather late in this campaign to expect too much.

I wonder if Mierce has reached the point where they really need to 100% fulfill man of their outstanding campaigns before they'll see big pledge totals?

They've already said no more Darklands stuff until the Rulebook is out, so that should help in that regard.

There just weren't the minis I wanted in this one,

plus the KS March/April of doom means I basically have to scrabble for cash for anything at the moment

rather than any desire for finishing off stuff (although it would be good, I know a fair few want the full rule book, and I really want the art book ) that has meant I'm only in this one for a small amount

I think the position of Warhammer Fantasy has a big part to play as those gamers are probably big Banebeasts buyers and they are all probably waiting to see what's going to happen to their game before they decide to keep on playing (and shopping) or give up and move to another game or just quit

To me, the proposed/hinted at/feared Bubblehammer Skirmish might actually be BETTER for Mierce!

Once you're at that level/scale of game, it makes more sense to invest in some of the superior looking Mierce offerings for use in a 'counts as' situation.

I was going to suggest that WHF was the main issue too.