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So there's a gap in my knowledge that I was hoping that Dakka could fulfill. Lexicanum has been a little bit scanty in terms of information about them, and I was hoping someone here might have more information on background, troop types, events of note, anything really on the Sisters of Silence.

As a side question, and one of the reasons I'm seeking this out is that I'm looking to expand my SoB with Sisters of Silence standing in for some kind of ally, but I have no idea what they would be close matches to, and I wanted to look into their background for guidance.

There's not a huge amount of information on them, aside from a lot of speculation that they do not exist past the Great Crusade.

 Kanluwen wrote:
There's not a huge amount of information on them, aside from a lot of speculation that they do not exist past the Great Crusade.

Who collects all the psykers then? I suppose other psykers/inquisitors could do it, and there is an excerpt in the rulebook where it talks about psychic powers where a psyker is talking about all of the "unfit" who will be sacrificed to the emperor.

Guess the only source is the novel "Flight of the Eisenstein" plus maybe the other novel and short stories listed as source in the Lexicanum article (haven't read the others).

'The Voice' in the Tales of Heresy compilation is a good source for Sisters of Silence fluff, there's not a lot, but it's good.

Interesting topic I haven't thought of before. Makes me raise the question... are the SoS all Pariahs? or are they just so protected by the emperor that psykic powers dont work around them?

In several off the HH books the SS are used exclusively because no warp powers work around them... what does this mean. If this takes the thread in a different direction than you wanted than disregard.

I was doing a little research on them myself, and there is not a lot. I did find some art, which I am using to build my small SoS squad that will be "counts as" GK Interceptors. In fact, I just started working on them this past week, WIP pics here http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-64081-29452_Grey%20Knights.html

I'm using DE female models - not too happy with how this GS mask came out


So I made one like KrautScientist did, and a friend of mine is making a mold to reproduce it (looks like this


I got some inspiration also from here http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/254659-a-tale-of-20-gamers-a-galaxy-asunder/page-7#entry3104079 which has more links, pics, etc.

There is a lot of info here http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Sisters_of_Silence

Hope that helps.

This is a HUGE help hdbbstephen! Thanks! And interesting call on having them count as Grey Knights. This is giving me fuel now. :3

Glad to help, looking forward to seeing some pics of your force develop.

Right now I'm trying to settle on what they would count as.

Grey Knights seem a solid idea, though I think I'd probably focus them more as Inquisitorial henchmen. But on the other hand, I'd really like to have a kitted out Inquisitor ally for my SoB, which limits my Troops choices to something GK (as I don't want to use Coteaz). Strike squads seem like a solid idea, though, even though they are psykers, the Warp Quake could be explained as a potent null zone that disrupts tracking and landing.

I thought about Dark Angels, but seeing the art and lore, that just seems a little plain for them. SoS would be, basically, groundpounding Marines and I've already got plenty of those with my SoB.

 curran12 wrote:
Strike squads seem like a solid idea, though, even though they are psykers, the Warp Quake could be explained as a potent null zone that disrupts tracking and landing.

My thoughts exactly. Plus, I bought a box of GK and the kit comes with 2 sets of backpacks... I used the first set for the vanilla GK allies for my IG (Gallery Link), so when I saw them in the ol' bitz box the concept just sprang forth like Athena.

Besides, I already have an Inquistion Henchmen band.

You want to do what? Expand the SOB with Sisters of Silence despite they are thousand of years apart? This reminds me sort of my old dinosaur-book where brontosauruses fought T-Rexes. It just can't happen. Sorry, it's just horrendously erroneous. I don't mean to stifle your creativity but omething just ain't meant to be.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
You want to do what? Expand the SOB with Sisters of Silence despite they are thousand of years apart? This reminds me sort of my old dinosaur-book where brontosauruses fought T-Rexes. It just can't happen. Sorry, it's just horrendously erroneous. I don't mean to stifle your creativity but omething just ain't meant to be.

While I'm pretty certain this is you just trying to throw a wrench in my works for the whole wolf thing, I'll play along.

From the 40k wiki:

Fate of the Sisters of Silence

The fate that befell the Sisters of Silence following the Horus Heresy is not recorded in Imperial records. It is not known whether or not they were utterly annihilated during the defence of the Emperor’s secret Imperial Webway Project within the Imperial Palace's dungeons or if they were disbanded and incorporated into the ranks of the fledgling organisation of the Inquisition. There is no known Imperial record of the Silent Sisterhood still operating within the 41st Millennium nor is there any reference to their destruction or disbandment.

I'll pull out the relevant bits:
"or if they were disbanded and incorporated into the ranks of the fledgling organisation of the Inquisition."

"There is no known Imperial record of the Silent Sisterhood still operating within the 41st Millennium nor is there any reference to their destruction or disbandment"

And considering I want to incorporate SoS as an allied Inquisitorial detachment, yeah, I'm not seeing the issue. Though I have this feeling that you are going to rant and rave and make a scene anyway.

Not at all, I don't bear grudges, and I won, the Space Wolves doesn't turn into wolves period, there are no two ways it, it's in the blasted codex, page ten. I can even PM you the proof.

Don't take the 40k.wiki seriously it's fun read but much fanfiction. The SOS likely died to a woman at Prospero countering demons and helping the Space Wolves.

You could have something like the thingy Alizebeth ran, I don't remember what it was in the passing as a part of the Inquisitorial meatshields.

That was the Distaff...

Thing is, regardless of whether they were destroyed or disbanded, there's no organization in M41 called the Sisters of Silence. However, given that the Inquisition operates the Black Ships that collect the Psyker Tithe and delivers them to Terra for sanctioning (or becoming the God-Emperor's bon-bons), I would surmise that the Pariahs that act as the guards aboard those vessels are what came of the Sisters of Silence.

This isn't to say that every person aboard one of the Black Ships is a Blank (they're far too rare for that), but I can imagine that the crew decks are kept apart from the holds by psi-inert/psi-blocking materials, while the guards that overlook the psykers are, and there may not need to be a lot of them.

Or they have a bunch of regular Naval armsmen as the guards, wearing null-fields and the like, who are lead by the descendants of the Sisters of Silence (in an organizational sense). This seems the more logical and practical use of them, as it's easier to make anti-psyker weapons and use a regular Blank (or someone equipped with a technological version of one) for military applications.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Not at all, I don't bear grudges, and I won, the Space Wolves doesn't turn into wolves period, there are no two ways it, it's in the blasted codex, page ten. I can even PM you the proof.

Don't take the 40k.wiki seriously it's fun read but much fanfiction. The SOS likely died to a woman at Prospero countering demons and helping the Space Wolves.

You could have something like the thingy Alizebeth ran, I don't remember what it was in the passing as a part of the Inquisitorial meatshields.

Okay, I'll play:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battle_of_Prospero#.UX_4NsrnyYA

Please point out where the "Sisters of Silence were killed to a woman" is in this. Or if you want the short version, just go to the little area called "Losses" and let's take a look-see:

Losses for the Sons:

90% of the Thousand Sons Legion
billions of civilians and Prosperine Spireguard

Imperial Losses:

Moderate

So unless you're going to try to convince me that "moderate" losses means all of the Sisters of SIlence, yeah, give me some better proof. I'll make it straightforward. There's my evidence. Now where's yours?

40k wiki is not a valid source. Lexicanum is only a valid source when their articles are properly sourced themselves-- while more respectable than 40k wiki (which is so deviant from the lore as to literally be fanfiction much of the time), they're still not themselves an original source.

At the moment, anything regarding the ultimate fate of the Sisters of Silence should be taken as fan-speculation. There is nothing wrong with fan-speculation, but it shouldn't be treated as canon. It's just one of many possibilities for how GW could go about it. Assuming GW even remembers to do so in the first place (they have a tendency to ignore women in the lore).

Okay, even going off of the Lexicanum, it is pretty much identical to the wiki entry, with the slight added bit of speculation that they "were decimated protecting the Emperor's secret project at the height of the Heresy and were either disbanded or incorporated into the fledgling Inquisition."

Psiennes made a better point than I ever could.

And that is why I used Lexicanum as evidence, so are you going to show me where in Prosperous they were wiped out or not?

I go for the point Psiennes made.

So that's a no then?

I'm not asking you about 'modern' SoS, I'm asking you where in the battle for Prospero does it say that the Heresy era SoS were wiped out. You're the one who said it and all I'm asking is to prove or back up the statement.

Regarding modern SoS, Psienne is pretty much saying the same thing Im thinking that I want, an Inquisitorial faction derived from the old SoS, so I don't even know why you are mentioning it. By this point, you're pretty much trolling.

I see that you all have a bit of history.

In any case, my own little group of "Sisters of Silence"/counts as GK Interceptors are envisioned as having been lost in a Warp Storm for a long, long time.

They were rescued by Inquisitor Boginskaya, given some updated tech, and incorporated into her private army.

 hdbbstephen wrote:
I see that you all have a bit of history.

In any case, my own little group of "Sisters of Silence"/counts as GK Interceptors are envisioned as having been lost in a Warp Storm for a long, long time.

They were rescued by Inquisitor Boginskaya, given some updated tech, and incorporated into her private army.

Ah, I just wanted to bring up Warp Storms.

 curran12 wrote:
And that is why I used Lexicanum as evidence, so are you going to show me where in Prosperous they were wiped out or not?

Lexicanum is not evidence. It is just like wikipedia-- not a primary source, but a place to FIND primary sources.

Games Workshop doesn't care about the Sisters of Silence. They're women and thus not space marines, so they're effectively ignored.

The Sisters of Silence just doesn't have that practical a place at the tabletop, and they never were that much in the center of things as they seem to be a plot-device for the Space Wolves and little else, which led to my assumption they died there.

Plus to be honest I'm unsure how a SOB would handle a person being a bit off-putting as they are utterly fanatical.

That's a little more grounded and reasonable when you say it is an assumption instead of "it's likely they were wiped out." Especially when the information is there.

And that other part is actually a little more reasonable, and a real concern of mine. It is a balance between the whole witch hunting things of the SOB and the oddity of a blank.

Thanks, but here is a warning-note about my interpretation of 40k., it ain't necessarily wrong, but basically I think of the Machine Spirits as almost living entities. Which means load your lasgun wrong one day and a year later it will for no good reason shoot your superior officer just out of resentment. Of course that's a mixture of rule coll and fun and real life for me as I almost believes in the Ommnisaiah. Blanks are people you just wanting to punt to death for no reason whatsoever.

And note I bear you no ill will, we just disagreed about the Space Wolves.

 curran12 wrote:
That's a little more grounded and reasonable when you say it is an assumption instead of "it's likely they were wiped out." Especially when the information is there.

Actually, no the information ISN'T there. That's the entire problem.

Well with a respected Inquisitor nearby that won't be a problem Melissia, thought they would be in a world of hurt if that respect diminished.