The 14-year-old kid arrested over his pro-NRA shirt now faces a year in jail

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**Dreadclaw69**

http://news.yahoo.com/14-old-kid-arrested-over-pro-nra-shirt-071819724.html

The West Virginia eighth-grader who was suspended and arrested in late April after he refused to remove a t-shirt supporting the National Rifle Association appeared in court this week and was formally charged with obstructing an officer.
As CBS affiliate WTRF reports, 14-year-old Jared Marcum now faces a $500 fine and a maximum of one year in prison.
The boy’s father, Allen Lardieri, is not pleased.
“Me, I’m more of a fighter and so is Jared and eventually we’re going to get through this,” Lardieri told WTRF. “I don’t think it should have ever gotten this far.”
“Every aspect of this is just totally wrong,” Lardieri added. “He has no background of anything criminal up until now and it just seems like nobody wants to admit they’re wrong.”
Officials at Logan Middle School in Logan County, West Va. maintain that Marcum, who has since completed eighth grade, was suspended for one day because he caused a disruption after a teacher asked him to remove a shirt emblazoned with a hunting rifle and the statement “protect your right.”
“She said, ‘Are you supposed to wear that in school?’” Marcum had previously explained in an interview with local station, WOWK-TV. “I said, ‘I don’t see why I shouldn’t.’”
In a move The Daily Caller can only characterize as courageous, Marcum returned to school after his suspension wearing exactly the same shirt. Students across the rural county showed their support for Marcum by wearing similar shirts on that day as well. (RELATED: Eighth-grader arrested over NRA shirt returns to school in same shirt)
There are no accounts of any additional arrests or suspensions when Marcum returned to school.
Lardieri has claimed that police in Logan City (pop. 1,779) threatened to charge Marcum with making terroristic threats during the incident that led to his arrest.
In legal documents obtained by the CBS station, the arresting officer, James Adkins, reportedly fails to inform the court about any terrorist threats or any violent action. Instead, Adkins asserts that the 14-year-old boy did not follow his orders to stop talking. This verbosity somehow prevented Adkins from performing his police duties.
“In my view of the facts, Jared didn’t do anything wrong,” Ben White, Marcum’s attorney, opined, according to WTRF. “I think Officer Adkins could have done something differently.”
White has previously asserted that his client was exercising his free speech rights by wearing the shirt.
The school district’s policy doesn’t prohibit shirts promoting Second Amendment rights.
Logan police and the prosecuting attorney, Michael White, declined to answer questions.

**hotsauceman1**

Nevermind, I missed the second to last line. Still the kid was being an idiot. He verbally sparred with an officer(Good idea, yell at someone that can arrest you for the smallest thing) And he aggravated the situation further by coming back with the same shirt.
But just because it doesnt ban shirts that promote second amendment, doesn't mean it doesn't ban shirts with guns on them.

**Manchu**

Wow, none of that adds up at all. Makes you wonder what the real issue is and by the sound of that article it looks like it was Officer Adkins having a bad day.

**kronk**

The school district’s policy doesn’t prohibit shirts promoting Second Amendment rights.

It didn't.

Instead, Adkins asserts that the 14-year-old boy did not follow his orders to stop talking. This verbosity somehow prevented Adkins from performing his police duties.

It seems like the officer and the kid exchanged some verbal sparring, though. Probably a case of "Shut up, kid" that went to far.

**Manchu**

"Pick up that can."

**Dreadclaw69**

Manchu wrote:
Wow, none of that adds up at all. Makes you wonder what the real issue is and by the sound of that article it looks like it was Officer Adkins having a bad day.

That's the vibe I was getting too. Having the Police called was a little bit much, but from what is reported the officer's actions appear somewhat less than reasonable, especially threatening to charge him with a terrorist offence.

I hope the DA realises that this case is a vote loser.

**kronk**

Obviously, what we have here is failure to communicate.

The only cure for this is 50 boiled eggs or something...

**Frazzled**

In legal documents obtained by the CBS station, the arresting officer, James Adkins, reportedly fails to inform the court about any terrorist threats or any violent action. Instead, Adkins asserts that the 14-year-old boy did not follow his orders to stop talking. This verbosity somehow prevented Adkins from performing his police duties.
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**hotsauceman1**

Duct Tape. That is all

**kronk**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Duct Tape. That is all

You'll make the best High School counselor ever!

**daedalus**

It almost seems to me like the goal here is not teaching, but instead displaying dominance and enforcing the expectation in the youth that they should cow to authority figures. I mean, there is, like, literally NO shirt I can think of that should interfere with teaching math, science, English, history, or any other topic you could possibly think of.

I think this is a case of "He that makes too much noise gets the big stick."

**hotsauceman1**

That is just one idea of whre im planning on going with my life,
I might also become a sociology teacher

**Alfndrate**

daedalus wrote:
It almost seems to me like the goal here is not teaching, but instead displaying dominance and enforcing the expectation in the youth that they should cow to authority figures. I mean, there is, like, literally NO shirt I can think of that should interfere with teaching math, science, English, history, or any other topic you could possibly think of.

I think this is a case of "He that makes too much noise gets the big stick."

I think a shirt that says, "Feth Teachers" might disrupt the classroom... (these exist to an extent on spreadshirt), but other than that fringe case, you're right.

**kronk**

In that case...

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Duct Tape. That is all

Best sociology teacher ever!

**hotsauceman1**

daedalus wrote:
It almost seems to me like the goal here is not teaching, but instead displaying dominance and enforcing the expectation in the youth that they should cow to authority figures. I mean, there is, like, literally NO shirt I can think of that should interfere with teaching math, science, English, history, or any other topic you could possibly think of.

I think this is a case of "He that makes too much noise gets the big stick."

First, School has always been "Submit to authority"
Also there are shirts. Like one where theere are naked women on it. Or gang color shirts. Or shirts that have threats.

**Dreadclaw69**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Duct Tape. That is all

I thought you were suggesting a ghetto prom outfit for the lad instead of an NRA t-shirt

**Alfndrate**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
daedalus wrote:
It almost seems to me like the goal here is not teaching, but instead displaying dominance and enforcing the expectation in the youth that they should cow to authority figures. I mean, there is, like, literally NO shirt I can think of that should interfere with teaching math, science, English, history, or any other topic you could possibly think of.

I think this is a case of "He that makes too much noise gets the big stick."

First, School has always been "Submit to authority"
Also there are shirts. Like one where theere are naked women on it. Or gang color shirts. Or shirts that have threats.

There is a ford shirt with a pin up silhouette...

Gang Colors (Bloods and Crypts):

Shirts with "threats":

Admittedly this last one does have a gun on it

**Monster Rain**

Even if you are in the right, it's never a good idea to pop off to the police.

Do what they say and if they're violating your rights get a lawyer and sue the gak out of them. Escalating the situation is never going to work out in your favor.

**deathholydeath**

Monster Rain wrote:
Even if you are in the right, it's never a good idea to pop off to the police.

Do what they say and if they're violating your rights get a lawyer and sue the gak out of them. Escalating the situation is never going to work out in your favor.

Also, as far as I know, children only have limited access to most constitutional rights. Still, I'm curious about what exactly was said between the two of them.

**hotsauceman1**

Alfndrate wrote:
Snip

Blue and red shirts are indeed banned in my area, to save students from getting shot.
The second shirt,Well it has a threat. It is not something i would like my students to wear. It is a shirt the espouses violent thoughts.
Also I though of another shirt that is distracting, low cut spaghetti straps on girls and fishnet shirts.

**Kovnik Obama**

daedalus wrote:
It almost seems to me like the goal here is not teaching, but instead displaying dominance and enforcing the expectation in the youth that they should cow to authority figures. I mean, there is, like, literally NO shirt I can think of that should interfere with teaching math, science, English, history, or any other topic you could possibly think of.

I think this is a case of "He that makes too much noise gets the big stick."

I went to a private catholic high school (at least it was a mixed school), and that kid would've been sent home all the same. It was against the school conduct code to have any weapon, any replica of weapon, or any weapon depicted on our clothes.

And no, school is about teaching. It's just hard to do when you have 30+ monkeys trying to compete with you for authority.

Also, the 2nd Amendment is the right to bear arm, not the right to bear depiction of said arm.

**Ma55ter_fett**

Manchu wrote:
"Pick up that can."

NEVER!!!

*Throws can at Manchu*

Argh! Don't hurt me

Also schools have a right to impliment and enforce a dress code. As my rather wayward brother found out if you wear a shirt that says "feth you" to school they will get mad.

**Frazzled**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Alfndrate wrote:
Snip

Blue and red shirts are indeed banned in my area, to save students from getting shot.
The second shirt,Well it has a threat. It is not something i would like my students to wear. It is a shirt the espouses violent thoughts.
Also I though of another shirt that is distracting, low cut spaghetti straps on girls and fishnet shirts.

Thats why I advocate school uniforms comprising burlap sacks with holes cut in them, and shoes made of ziplock bags and string.

**Alfndrate**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Alfndrate wrote:
Snip

Blue and red shirts are indeed banned in my area, to save students from getting shot.
The second shirt,Well it has a threat. It is not something i would like my students to wear. It is a shirt the espouses violent thoughts.
Also I though of another shirt that is distracting, low cut spaghetti straps on girls and fishnet shirts.

But at the same time should people be banned from wearing black, yellow, gold, grey, or even green shirts? Because those colors are the identifiers for at least a dozen different gangs in the United States, the only reason why red and blue are not allowed at your school was because of the prominent population and violence of Bloods and Crypts. Which is a smart thing to do where such stuff is popular, too bad that over here in Ohio, I'm allowed to black and gold shirts, and no one would mistake me for a Latin King... Not to mention that most Bloods and Crypts don't wear those colors as overtly as they did, why? Because it made them too easy to spot...

**hotsauceman1**

Got it, pink for everyone.

**daedalus**

Frazzled wrote:

Thats why I advocate school uniforms comprising burlap sacks with holes cut in them, and shoes made of ziplock bags and string.

You're thinking too small. Horsehair robes and wooden plank/hemp rope sandals. And extensive instruction in Latin. It builds character.

**Frazzled**

I'm liking it.

**Alfndrate**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Got it, pink for everyone.

No, banning clothes on the account of color is a dumb idea, I spent 10 years at a catholic school (K to 9) where I had to wear a uniform, and then I went to high school for 3 years that one year had said no gang symbols, no guns (explicitly written of course), no violence, cursing, etc... but our mascot has pistols, so my Junior year he lost his guns and became a big purple gay cowboy, and then senior year he magically got his guns back but we were still told no guns on stuff. Unlike the school in question here, my school said no guns... this one didn't, it shouldn't be an issue.

**Manchu**

daedalus wrote:
You're thinking too small. Horsehair robes and wooden plank/hemp rope sandals. And extensive instruction in Latin. It builds character.

By "Latin," I assume you mean "Low Gothic."

Thought For The Day: Vanity is the seed of treason.

**hotsauceman1**

Alfndrate wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Got it, pink for everyone.

No, banning clothes on the account of color is a dumb idea, I spent 10 years at a catholic school (K to 9) where I had to wear a uniform, and then I went to high school for 3 years that one year had said no gang symbols, no guns (explicitly written of course), no violence, cursing, etc... but our mascot has pistols, so my Junior year he lost his guns and became a big purple gay cowboy, and then senior year he magically got his guns back but we were still told no guns on stuff. Unlike the school in question here, my school said no guns... this one didn't, it shouldn't be an issue.

I disagree, Gangs in certain places are a big problem(AKA my school) where certain colors would get you killed, heck you where also not allowed to wear the nummer 13 because it is a number of another gang. Students can and have gotten killed that had the wrong colors on, no gang affiliation at all.