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Hey, it'll save time later.

Heck, there were debates about the cover artwork when that first showed up. Something about the snakes and circles.

Turbo_MMX wrote:I just love how the rules arnt officialy out yet and we are already having debates about em

Quite a few people already have their copies and most GW/many Independents Stores either had or currently have "preview" copies.

AgeOfEgos wrote:Couple of things I noticed;

Shooting: Only models in range may shoot. In the first PDF, IIRC, if one part of the unit was in range to rapid...they all could rapid. Now you measure from model to model to determine who can shoot. Don't know if I like/dislike this.

Tanks in cover: Felt forests won't provide tanks cover. This is changed and I don't like this.

All I have so far...

Couldn't you...just...agree with your opponent that anything at least 50% within the "shadow" cast by the felt patch is being obscured, no questions asked?

ColonelEllios wrote:

AgeOfEgos wrote:Couple of things I noticed;

Shooting: Only models in range may shoot. In the first PDF, IIRC, if one part of the unit was in range to rapid...they all could rapid. Now you measure from model to model to determine who can shoot. Don't know if I like/dislike this.

Tanks in cover: Felt forests won't provide tanks cover. This is changed and I don't like this.

All I have so far...

Couldn't you...just...agree with your opponent that anything at least 50% within the "shadow" cast by the felt patch is being obscured, no questions asked?

Well I certainly could and my gaming group certainly will. Basement games rarely result in RAW anyways.

However, random games at the store will be less forgiving regarding felt forests (As well tournaments I imagine).

I'm doubtful that tournaments will be playing with felt forests under 5th ed rules, and I suspect most FLGS will probably change their terrain to match or come up with "house rules" for the collection they have. I know our store has forests that are designed to allow models to move through them easily, and we've already decided that we would treat the forests as capable of providing cover to tanks and whatnot that are positioned behind them.

5TH EDITION IS A PLOY TO GET EVERYONE TO BUY GW TERRAIN KITS!

Think about it, what's one of the few kits they can sell to any player regardless of army? This is like a 0 comp business plan!

Actually, some of their terrain kits are pretty army-specific. They tend to be very imperial, so everyone else is either invading, built stuff out of it (after invading), or apparently buys from the same Future Space Ikea.

The stuff from Faantasy is pretty generic. Hills, trees and some arcane ruins. Quite nice too (if you can get a boxset of it half price, anyway )

"Agara the Slasher's Warband was devoured by an errant void whale"

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