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That's also why the timber wolf is so beloved-- it has a good balance of speed, armor, and firepower.

That and it's used on the cover of so much battletech stuff.

Well, you've got to admit, the MAD CAT just looks pretty damn awesome.

I think you mean Timber Wolf, a far more awesome name than madcat and the battlemech's true name.

I really don't want to see this argument start. I subscribed to this thread to see a discussion, not a flamewar. I'm just trying to think of an assult class that has above average speed. The Mk ll has good agility for its tonnage. Thoughts

Highlanders tend to have higher than average speed, IIRC, as does the Cyclops (what with it being a Liao mech).

What about the same idea, but with Atlas. Or would nothing be good when spammed?

Everything has a weakness, or at least an area where it doesn't excel. The Atlas has limited long-range firepower, for example, having only their LRM-20s, and they also have no jump jets (at least, most atlas variants don't, and theo nes that do sacrifice armor or firepower to get it, or both) and are fairly slow making it hard for them to take multiple objectives. Similarly, most variants don't have ECM and other support tools, and the ones that do sacrifice either armor or firepower to get it, or both.

In short, joke spamming lances are a no then?

Generally speaking, a group of different mechs working together to maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses are gonna be better than four of the same mech.

For one, each of the mechs has a distinct role, and a distinct weakness, and because of this there is less temptation to lone wolf. Teaming up on enemies brings them down faster.

Not saying spamming one kind of 'mech cannot work... just that I think they're going for a teamwork based game..

I'm all for the teamwork as it makes it easier, just it sounded like they wanted to have some GK "dreads" stomp some stuff into the ground.

I gathered that much as well, yes.

Just saying it may not be the most successful thing ever.

Shoot, if we are going to run around with Grey Knight Spam, why don't we just paint ourselves in rainbows and go hug people as well....

I can understand the FP/Speed trade off.... never understood the armor issues though. Some heavies carry less armor that some of the mediums.

It depends on the exact setup.

Sometimes they trade both armor AND speed for firepower, or trade armor for firepower and speed.

And even that often varies between variants-- one variant of a heavy mech might give up armor for jump jets and a bigger engine, for example, while anotehr one might give up its jump jets for more weaponry or heat sinks.

Comes down to pilot preference I suppose. Stuff like if you want to be able to take more hits, or dish out more so you take less.

n0t_u wrote:Comes down to pilot preference I suppose. Stuff like if you want to be able to take more hits, or dish out more so you take less.

Aye.

Personally, I learned long ago that no matter what, your taking hits over any decent lasting encounter and it's far better to be able to take a hit; that's why I refuse to touch Lights.

Slarg232 wrote:

n0t_u wrote:Comes down to pilot preference I suppose. Stuff like if you want to be able to take more hits, or dish out more so you take less.

Aye.

Personally, I learned long ago that no matter what, your taking hits over any decent lasting encounter and it's far better to be able to take a hit; that's why I refuse to touch Lights.

But that's why I love Lights and Mediums, why worry about being able to take a hit when you don't get hit at all.

You can take the Puny Lights, I'll take the Manly Heavies, deal?

Slarg232 wrote:You can take the Puny Lights, I'll take the Manly Heavies, deal?

Bigger ain't always better

I'm a missile boat guy myself, and particularly partial to the Longbow. I loved just racking the whole thing up with MRMs in MW4. My buddies and I still occasionally play over LAN lol.

Krellnus wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:You can take the Puny Lights, I'll take the Manly Heavies, deal?

Bigger ain't always better

Maybe not, but you'll feel better with the heavier backup.

Could anyone recommend me a good mechwarrior novel or two?

Lord of battles wrote:Could anyone recommend me a good mechwarrior novel or two?

Anything by Michael A. Stackpole. Lethal heritage is probably the best place to start- it is just a fantastic novel, and introduction to Battletech's particular spirit.

Krellnus wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:You can take the Puny Lights, I'll take the Manly Heavies, deal?

Bigger ain't always better

That's not what she said last night

Lord of battles wrote:Could anyone recommend me a good mechwarrior novel or two?

I personally love the Jade Phoenix series, though that's Clan and as such might not be the best for getting into this game's mindset.

Lord of battles wrote:Could anyone recommend me a good mechwarrior novel or two?

If you've got an e-reader, the Warrior Trilogy is pretty good. And it's only set a couple of decades before the game's time.

Something you might be interested in looking into is the Battletech/Clancyverse Round Robin on Spacebattles.com. It's fan-made, and a crossover, but honestly it's pretty good, I think.

Disappointing...

http://mwomercs.com/news/2012/04/193-dev-blog-6-mechlab

They're using the hardpoint non-sense from MW4.

What's wrong with hardpoints D:

So much less freedom and customization.

I would love, for example, to be able to switch out an autocannon for lasers to save money on amm.

I can understand it making it easier, but the locked to only weapons of a certain type at a certain point is annoying. If it were to have hard points I'd just rather it be like the Chromehounds one.