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2013/10/16 19:27:14
Subject: Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
I'm worried about scenery like this (hard, straight edges) in the Bones line. As a backer of the original kickstarter who loves the models, I really don't think the material is going to hold its shape well enough to look proper.
2013/10/16 19:34:25
Subject: Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
I'd say it will. Much of the bending in bones one was relatively "thin" components; this thing really doesn't have anywhere to twist to so I'd say we're good on that one
...Anyway, that with five good, or even middling, unlocks, will see me stay in this just for the scenery.
...feth, just when I'd almost convinced myself to drop out.
2013/10/16 19:35:21
Subject: Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
bbb wrote: Apparently they can vary the formula to adjust the hardness. I'm extremely interested to see how much that container will cost at retail.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm hoping they add some crates and barrels to the terrain line.
Also, I love Sgt Forscale. That made me smile.
Yes - good example of that is Kaladrax, where the body is quite a hard rigid plastic, the tail and wings are slightly softer and the head and tail tip are very bendy.
...this is a most interesting development...
2013/10/16 19:45:13
Subject: Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
The 'containers' are interesting. At the right price point they can be valuable regardless of quality. The truth is I could make those from about 3$ of plasticard and plastirod.
I don't want to make them from 3$ of plasticard and plastirod. So if they are good quality for a reasonable price, they may have tapped a new market for people who seemingly won't pay high prices for terrain.
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2013/10/16 19:45:30
Subject: Re:Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
Might get me back interested for a $50 pledge if that whole thing gets funded and the makeup of the set is properly themed and not a useless assortment of random stuff.
2013/10/16 19:52:09
Subject: Re:Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
Cryptek of Awesome wrote: Bones shipping container.
*ahem*
Hell yes!
Hopefully the damn thing is hollow and doesn't weigh a ton.
Based on the altars from KS1, I forsee it being warped all to hell and not ever wanting to come back to straight lines.
Odd. My altars came in straight as an arrow. Only model I had trouble with was the lich. His base was all screwed up, and no amount of boiling water could fix it.
2013/10/16 19:56:46
Subject: Re:Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
Cryptek of Awesome wrote: Bones shipping container.
*ahem*
Hell yes!
Hopefully the damn thing is hollow and doesn't weigh a ton.
Based on the altars from KS1, I forsee it being warped all to hell and not ever wanting to come back to straight lines.
Odd. My altars came in straight as an arrow. Only model I had trouble with was the lich. His base was all screwed up, and no amount of boiling water could fix it.
Well, I had the same problem as Azazel, the altar and tomb were both warped to a point that they never came close to straight edges no mater how many times I heated them.
2013/10/16 20:12:42
Subject: Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
Bolognesus wrote: I'd say it will. Much of the bending in bones one was relatively "thin" components; this thing really doesn't have anywhere to twist to so I'd say we're good on that one
...Anyway, that with five good, or even middling, unlocks, will see me stay in this just for the scenery.
Note that all of the scenery is sci-fi/modern which raises the question: Will this be a sci-fi expansion (which we are woefully short of to my mind) or a scenery expansion?
T
2013/10/16 20:19:46
Subject: Re:Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
Cryptek of Awesome wrote: Bones shipping container.
*ahem*
Hell yes!
Hopefully the damn thing is hollow and doesn't weigh a ton.
Based on the altars from KS1, I forsee it being warped all to hell and not ever wanting to come back to straight lines.
Odd. My altars came in straight as an arrow. Only model I had trouble with was the lich. His base was all screwed up, and no amount of boiling water could fix it.
Well, I had the same problem as Azazel, the altar and tomb were both warped to a point that they never came close to straight edges no mater how many times I heated them.
Nod. This highlights that issue I made about Bones II earlier. With the first one, I was going to paint the altar, but since it wouldn't straighten, I just thought "ah well" and threw it back in the box. When the effective prices for stuff like that doubles or triples via $50 "expansions", increased shipping and taxes, and you have to really think about and decide whether you want that altar (or shipping container, or whatever), then when the thing doesn't straighten, you'll be complaining on the forums and getting a "suck it up, big baby - it's KS and you got a great deal anyway" response from a lot of people, and/or contacting Reaper with the hope of getting a replacement.
2013/10/16 20:22:14
Subject: Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
I have this horrible feeling that I'll regret not going in on this, but I think I don't need more stuff in the unpainted pile and a big pile of clutter taking up space in my apartment.
If I really like anything in Bones I can pick it up later at retail- a bargain isn't a bargain if it includes a whole bunch of mediocre stuff I don't really want.
They fill the rest of that expansion with modern/near future chronoscope type figures and I may just keep my pledge. Otherwise I just am not seeing enough stuff I want to keep my EB wave 1 pledge.
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2013/10/16 20:32:21
Subject: Re:Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
Cryptek of Awesome wrote: Bones shipping container.
*ahem*
Hell yes!
Hopefully the damn thing is hollow and doesn't weigh a ton.
Based on the altars from KS1, I forsee it being warped all to hell and not ever wanting to come back to straight lines.
Odd. My altars came in straight as an arrow. Only model I had trouble with was the lich. His base was all screwed up, and no amount of boiling water could fix it.
Well, I had the same problem as Azazel, the altar and tomb were both warped to a point that they never came close to straight edges no mater how many times I heated them.
Nod. This highlights that issue I made about Bones II earlier. With the first one, I was going to paint the altar, but since it wouldn't straighten, I just thought "ah well" and threw it back in the box. When the effective prices for stuff like that doubles or triples via $50 "expansions", increased shipping and taxes, and you have to really think about and decide whether you want that altar (or shipping container, or whatever), then when the thing doesn't straighten, you'll be complaining on the forums and getting a "suck it up, big baby - it's KS and you got a great deal anyway" response from a lot of people, and/or contacting Reaper with the hope of getting a replacement.
I was just mentioning that different people had different experiences with the same model. I had a few models that will never straighten, but not the same ones. Was there any mention of a model like the Wyrmgear with this problem? All the posts I read mentioned that it was made from a harder material that the others. My point is, I think that things like dungeon decor and character models in the softer material may be more prone to warping that something like the big Wyrmgear. These containers may be made with the same formula to ensure they stay straight. Things like dungeon decor didn't matter as much to Reaper if they were bent or not.
2013/10/16 20:44:56
Subject: Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
I'm wondering if any/ all of those containers are going to have removable sections so we can stick stuff inside.
That weapons locker especially. It looks just like the shipping crate except with some latches on it. It'd be neat if those things have some molded details inside of them.
Between this new expansion, all my deadzone scenery, and who knows what I end up with from Mars Attacks I think I'll have a pretty well cluttered battlefield in the near future.
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@The shipping container is hollow and does open up. Likewise the dumpster. The prototype Weapons locker does not open, nor does the telephone box
Wish they'd add the first option to the second expansion set before announcing the third one, but whatever. Looks like the Paizo email brought in 500+ backers in the last two days, and 100K. Tell and post your friends and forums about the Numera and not-TARDIS miniatures!
I was just mentioning that different people had different experiences with the same model. I had a few models that will never straighten, but not the same ones. Was there any mention of a model like the Wyrmgear with this problem? All the posts I read mentioned that it was made from a harder material that the others. My point is, I think that things like dungeon decor and character models in the softer material may be more prone to warping that something like the big Wyrmgear. These containers may be made with the same formula to ensure they stay straight. Things like dungeon decor didn't matter as much to Reaper if they were bent or not.
I attempted to assemble Wyrmgear for painting. I found that all four of them had an uneven stance/warped legs, so back in the boxes they went for the time being. I didn't bother to try and heat/cool/straighten his legs, because I ended up in rather a foul mood on the day. I've tried un-warping my Tre Manor Bugbear several times, but that mace just doesn't want to unbend. I may have to pin or replace the shaft for that one.
ced1106 wrote: Creator Reaper Miniatures
@The shipping container is hollow and does open up. Likewise the dumpster. The prototype Weapons locker does not open, nor does the telephone box
Wish they'd add the first option to the second expansion set before announcing the third one, but whatever. Looks like the Paizo email brought in 500+ backers in the last two days, and 100K. Tell and post your friends and forums about the Numera and not-TARDIS miniatures!
Those shipping containers will need to be made of the hardest version of bones, or they'll be warped to gak. They might be anyway, I guess. Hm.. pre-assembled & warped, or warped and unassembled? Neither possibility fills me with glee.
That Numenera stuff looks interesting. The pink expansion may well be worth going in for if it is filled with terrain. I don't know whether I would prefer fantasy or sci-fi terrain in there though
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As long as it's rocks and other nondescript terrain(no castle walls or anything), the fantasy stuff could easily be mixed with the scifi with no real loss to modern/future players. Already including a callbox and weapons locked might deter fantasy-based players from chipping in.
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Grats! Tabletop RPGs are unique and awesome. I have a bad feeling that I'll have to rope some mates into playing one if I pick up this KS with it's huge range of minis usable for all sorts of stuff. Didn't know Numenera was an RPG, had it in my head it was the Torment spiritual sequel to Planescape Torment.
2013/10/17 20:58:18
Subject: Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
Note that all of the scenery is sci-fi/modern which raises the question: Will this be a sci-fi expansion (which we are woefully short of to my mind) or a scenery expansion?
T
If I had to guess I'd say all sci-fi/chronoscope, Since it features Sgt. Forscale and not Sir Forscale of Nottinculded.
Edit:
Reaper Miniatures wrote:
@Coraline - Expansion 2 and the remaining Core reveals will be Fantasy related. Expansion 3 will be primarily non-fantasy.
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2013/10/17 22:09:34
Subject: Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.85M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M, $1.965M Numenera and Terrain
Whoa, I'm actually participating in a RPG of this right now, my very first RPG
Pretty cool that they're making figs for it!
A lot of the artwork for the Numenera setting would do some good double duty as aliens as well. Depending on the final figures, those 4 look to be a nice start to some sort of alien horde army (with a fair amount of conversion for pose variety).
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2013/10/17 22:30:33
Subject: Re:Reaper Miniatures Bones II: $1.706M, Undersea Mobs at $1.824M, Expansion #2 and paint at $1.894M
The problem with the 'non-Tardis' is that there are others out there which do not require you to pledge for this Kickstarter. I really can't see someone pledging just for it to be honest.
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