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**Wehrkind**

Azazelx wrote:
No, that's pretty unpossible at this stage - there's just too much invested in the current sets being cross-compatible. Even within that, they continue to update (as with the Tac Marines) and add infinite variation. There are just too many kits to do for far too small a return.
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It isn't clear to me what sort of cross compatibility problems you are referring to. Most of the marine sets simply need to have their limbs and torsos lengthened by a few mm to be scaled pretty well. The shoulders, weapons, etc don't need to be altered.
Especially considering how they bulked up terminators and the like, there has historically not been much worry about making newer terminators dwarf little mini Logan etc.

Similarly, changing the scale on IG to make them proportioned differently is not a lot of work if you are recutting things anyway. Look at the difference between Catachans and... well any other IG model.

Now, I am all for backwards compatibility and being able to swap between kits, but it isn't as though that is an iron law of production, or even one GW works hard at. And sooner or later any company that wants to change their look with new models has to take the plunge.

**migooo**

I wouldn't feel dirty defending RH, They are a little Arrogant but often I feel they do produce a superior product, the only problem I've ever had was the resin flag from there slave set, it was sticky like it had not set. They do tend to ignore critics though.

Now all in all ill back the Sisters KS but probably only enough to get the exclusive figure if there is one if not just enough for a box of troops and character.

**BrookM**

A hilarious thought just hit me: these people are also planning on creating a wargaming system of their own.

**Wehrkind**

Your great grandchildren will get to play it in the retirement home! Just think of the fun!

**Mathieu Raymond**

They'll actually recall rulebooks because they've had an awesome idea and just need to redo the whole thing from the ground up.

**Azazelx**

BrookM wrote:
So far, this is the worst one I've personally been in.

I'd put Robotech down as worse. Cthulhu Wars is almost as bad. (I think at least half of the updates since the campaign ended have been pimping other projects). I'd also put Sedition Wars down as worse. This one is a circus run by monkeys, but I still trust that the eventual figures will be excellent.

**Alpharius**

I've somehow managed to avoid most of those - I only got stung by SW.

But I agree - I think that, eventually, when these figures are finally released, they should be quite nice.

**Azazelx**

alanmckenzie wrote:

Sorry, but there were other plastic space marines in 2nd edition. There was the box of 6 (I think) with separate legs and torsos. The joins were flat, not like the current ball and socket.

**rabidaskal**

[quote=Azazelx
I'd put Robotech down as worse. Cthulhu Wars is almost as bad. (I think at least half of the updates since the campaign ended have been pimping other projects). I'd also put Sedition Wars down as worse. This one is a circus run by monkeys, but I still trust that the eventual figures will be excellent.

**Mathieu Raymond**

I just did back of the enveloppe calculations this morning, for the fun of it. Being very generous, let's assume they have the same numbers of minis in each wave, and that each wave after the first one gets sent every 3 months. With about 23 minis per wave, a total of 250 minis, that's nine more waves, and that brings us to 27 months after the first wave. Clearly into 2016.

Oï Vey...

**BrookM**

It keeps getting scarier and scarier eh?

**Alpharius**

I don't doubt your research and math but... no way that can happen, right?

**BrookM**

Okay, that bit of wistful thinking is just..

**AlexHolker**

On the plus side, we don't actually have to wait for the last wave to bail out. As soon as the infantry are sent out, they can do whatever the hell they like.

**migooo**

AlexHolker wrote:
On the plus side, we don't actually have to wait for the last wave to bail out. As soon as the infantry are sent out, they can do whatever the hell they like.

That's exactly how I feel.

**Jimsolo**

I thought they had already said it was going to be three waves. Have I just been assuming that the entire time, or is that based on something?

**Alpharius**

AlexHolker wrote:
On the plus side, we don't actually have to wait for the last wave to bail out. As soon as the infantry are sent out, they can do whatever the hell they like.

That is a good point - and probably the wisest course of action if MR's timeline is even close to being accurate!

**AlexHolker**

Jimsolo wrote:
I thought they had already said it was going to be three waves. Have I just been assuming that the entire time, or is that based on something?

You're basing this on what they said. Mathieu is basing his on what they did - in particular, the small size of the first wave.

**Mathieu Raymond**

In all fairness, I think it might very well be somewhere in the middle. I like how From Alpharius to the Dakka abbr. system, I've been renamed Maugan Ra.

**Wehrkind**

You, sir, are truly the reaper of overly optimistic posts.

So perhaps it fits

**prankster**

Well, they said 3 or 4 waves. Though there's nothing stopping them having a couple of sub waves in there.

So this would be wave 1.1 and then in another four or five months we'd get wave 1.2 with some more heroines in it. Wave 2, with the troops, would keep being pushed back until late 2015 at the earliest.

**Compel**

Yeah, I can't see that happening, to be honest. As soon as they start totalling up the postage and packaging for Wave 1, I'll be astonished if you actually end up with 3 waves, nevermind 4.

**Mathieu Raymond**

I wouldn't like to guess how much shipping would cost for close to 2700 packages in more than three waves. Assuming most decide to go for multiple waves of shipping.

I know I wouldn't want to see people purchasing minis before I got them over a year in advance.

**alanmckenzie**

I think that's what's going to happen though. I only intend to pay shipping once, so I can see me having to wait a few waves before everything I want (plus the freebies I'm due) are ready.

I'm fully expecting some of this to be on general release in their web store long before I get my stuff.

**Yodhrin**

Haha, I just saw Alan's post and thought to myself "well, at least if I don't decide to cash-out in Wave 1, there's a Dropship in my town", and then it occurred to me - I spoke to the Dropship when they first released the list, they were a small outfit, it's been so long now with all the delays that for all I know, they're not even in business anymore.

**alanmckenzie**

There's a dropship 40 or 50 miles away from me, I think, in edinburgh. But I don't know the place and I've never been, so not sure whether to make use of it. I don't get through to edinburgh often.

**Mathieu Raymond**

<---Is kinda jealous that some people can throw about sentences like "oh just 50 miles from Edinburgh."

My local dropship has been severely reducing GW's share of the store, in favour of Dust and MtG. The whole wall that was full of Reaper minis is down to just a few boxes on a shelf. I'm of a mind that they don't particularly want to be a drophip anymore, but French solidarity kinda forces them to remain one.

**alanmckenzie**

Wait a minute. That's an idea. There's a French polishers just over the the other side of the park, a 10 minute walk away. Maybe I'll speak to them.

**Mathieu Raymond**

It's a wonder the rest of Britain is able to do anything without the genius of the Scots.

**alanmckenzie**

That's why we're better together.