GK purifiers and falchions ?

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**meecham63**

Hi guys.

I will glue my marines next week, and as I would use 5 of them as purifiers (at the beginning, will add 5 more later), I hesitate with equipying them with halberds, to have 3 attacks I6, or with falchions, to have 4 at I4 (on charge)

What would be your opinion ?

Thanks !

**Zagman**

Falchions are way to expensive for the unit, remember you die just as easily as a 14pt DA Space Marine.

**Godless-Mimicry**

The common build for 5 Purifiers is 2 Cannons, 2 Halberds and a Hammer. I don't think I've ever seen a serious list use Falchions.

**AlmightyWalrus**

You also have 2 attacks with Halberds; Storm Bolters aren't pistols.

**pizzaguardian**

+1for 2 psycannon 2 halberd 1 hammer. Thats the best setup i know

**meecham63**

AlmightyWalrus
Post 2013/08/10 13:59:52 Subject: Re:GK purifiers and falchions ?
You also have 2 attacks with Halberds; Storm Bolters aren't pistols.

Nemesis halberds are two-handed weapons, so you can't have 2 CC attacks for having 2 CC weapons, I believe. Am I wrong ?

**Godless-Mimicry**

meecham63 wrote:
AlmightyWalrus
Post 2013/08/10 13:59:52 Subject: Re:GK purifiers and falchions ?
You also have 2 attacks with Halberds; Storm Bolters aren't pistols.

Nemesis halberds are two-handed weapons, so you can't have 2 CC attacks for having 2 CC weapons, I believe. Am I wrong ?

That's exactly what AlmightyWalrus said.

**meecham63**

Ok, I misunderstood his answer, I though he was speaking of charge bonuses, my mistake .

**jeffersonian000**

There is an interesting tactic from back in 5th where you would run 10 Putifiers with Banner and Falchions, an attached Libby with Falchions and Quicksilver, all charging out of a Stormraven. 55 attacks on the charge (66 before the NFF nerf).

SJ

**Godless-Mimicry**

If you are assaulting though you usually want to be finishing them off in the opponent's turn, not yours. That many AP3 attacks is going to sweep most units and leave your guys in the open to die.

**meecham63**

Godless-Mimicry
Post 2013/08/11 12:14:11 Subject: GK purifiers and falchions ?
If you are assaulting though you usually want to be finishing them off in the opponent's turn, not yours. That many AP3 attacks is going to sweep most units and leave your guys in the open to die.

You're right, that's why I would play 5 units squad against necrons / SM, and 10 units squad against nids, or orks... By the way, Halberds seems to be more efficient than falchions, thanks to the Initiative bonus

**Godless-Mimicry**

Not to mention that it is an illegal combo above as Purifiers cannot get the Brotherhood Banner.

**pizzaguardian**

Godless-Mimicry wrote:
Not to mention that it is an illegal combo above as Purifiers cannot get the Brotherhood Banner.

Really wish they could, but they cant

**Godless-Mimicry**

pizzaguardian wrote:
Godless-Mimicry wrote:
Not to mention that it is an illegal combo above as Purifiers cannot get the Brotherhood Banner.

Really wish they could, but they cant

Still wouldn't be worthwhile taking IMO, Grey Knights' strength is in shooting; they just happen to be half-decent at assault on the side.

**Homeskillet**

Magnetize them so you can swap loadouts. GK are so customizable depending on how you want to run a list, that falchions may work for you today, but you might want a bunch of halberds or hammers next time. I say give the falchions a go and see how they work with the rest of your list.

**pizzaguardian**

Godless-Mimicry wrote:
pizzaguardian wrote:
Godless-Mimicry wrote:
Not to mention that it is an illegal combo above as Purifiers cannot get the Brotherhood Banner.

Really wish they could, but they cant

Still wouldn't be worthwhile taking IMO, Grey Knights' strength is in shooting; they just happen to be half-decent at assault on the side.

Well i also add a grenade heavt ordo xenos inquisitor with prescience. Although oower armor sadly doenst survive much after first charge :(

**Neorealist**

Godless-Mimicry wrote:
The common build for 5 Purifiers is 2 Cannons, 2 Halberds and a Hammer. I don't think I've ever seen a serious list use Falchions.

I 'third' this as the best overall general setup.

That said I tend to specialize them by having one squad all with halberds (and a cannon) and have another squad have hammers rather than mixing it up. (that way I can send the quick guys at the 3+ or lower saves and the hammerers at vehicles or terminators as appropriate. )

**meecham63**

Neorealist 2013/08/12 14:45:18 Subject: GK purifiers and falchions ?

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Godless-Mimicry wrote:
The common build for 5 Purifiers is 2 Cannons, 2 Halberds and a Hammer. I don't think I've ever seen a serious list use Falchions.
I 'third' this as the best overall general setup.

That said I tend to specialize them by having one squad all with halberds (and a cannon) and have another squad have hammers rather than mixing it up. (that way I can send the quick guys at the 3+ or lower saves and the hammerers at vehicles or terminators as appropriate. )

I am interested in your way of running them : pure anti-troups CC specialist squad or "anti-tank / terminators" squad with hammers and cannons.

The one thing I don't like with the first combo ( 2 Cannons, 2 Halberds and a Hammer) is that you have to sacrifice two low-AP weapons to have the cannons, which are AP4. IMO purifiers are designed to be CC squads, with their 2 CC attacks.

**Neorealist**

It's worked out pretty well for me. Offers some resiliency too; you don't typically run into the problem of having your single hammer-marine sniped out of the crowd or your cannon-marines uselessly flailing in CC with their non-specific/no AP-value CCW as often if you specialize them for specific tasks.

That said it does make their deployment more important; since your opponent will likely be trying to park his or her heavy armor 'away' from all those daemon hammers, something which is harder to do if there is one in every squad.